Key signature: Edorian
Submitted on May 21st 2003 by ragaman.
This tune has been added to 43 tunebooks.
Also known as The 9 Pint Coggie, Nine Pint Coggie, The Nine Point Coggie.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Nine Pint Coggie, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Edor
D|B,EE/E/E E2DB|ADFD FAAd|B2BA Beef|dDD/D/D FEE:|
F|Eeef fedB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed e2df|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|fdec dBBc|dDD/D/D FEE||
This tune has received Dow's seal of approval, having been posted in te comments section for another tune, so here it is for reel. It's a Scottish tune, and I've never heard it in a session, but it's a mighty tune, and I enjoy playing at home, on the top deck of a night bus, or wherever I can get away with it. It appears in The Athole Collection (a collection of fiddle tunes collected in Perthshire in the late 19th century) and Alasdair Fraser plays it on his album, 'The Driven Bow'. I don't think it's a staple of mdern Scots players but, like many old Scots tunes, it's still widely played in Nova Scotia.
The two-semiquaver-and-one-quaver groupings (e.g. E/E/E) ar what Scots fiddlers call the 'Birl'. It translates quite readily to the Irish bowed or tongued triplet, and can, on some notes, be replaced with a roll or cran.
# Posted on May 21st 2003 by ragaman
Thanks for posting it David
# Posted on May 22nd 2003 by Dow
Nine Pint Coggie as a double reel
David, can you have a try at my setting and see what you think? I find that with the Athole setting my ear wants to hear that 2nd part again. I've always played it (wrongly) as a double reel for this reason. Also my setting's completely pentatonic and contains no C#s. I've transcribed bowed/tongued triplets as ~ to make it easier to read:
K:Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dD~D2 FEED|
B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dBAF BEE:|
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
Do you think it works or is it too long-winded like this?
# Posted on May 22nd 2003 by Dow
I think it's just plain greedy, playing it as a double reel. It's a tasty enough tune that 16 bars are sufficient nutriment.
But being less moralistic, or frivolous, or whatever it was I was being, I think some single reels are inherently single and are best left as such. There are some reels commonly played double which, I think, don't need to be. To my ears, the A-part of this tune gets a bit too repetitive if played double, the B-part less so. You could always play it ABB, a la Sailors Bonnet.
Anyway, whatever you do, don't listen to me.
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by ragaman
You're right - bad, greedy me. I think I'll start playing it ABB
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by Dow
By the way, I've just tried "The Sailor's Bonnet" before this tune and they go nicely together.
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by Dow
My setting is now officially this (it looks better on paper too actually). Cheers David.
K:Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
PS What do you call ABB - "single double reels"?
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by Dow
Dingle reels
# Posted on May 28th 2003 by ragaman
In "Kerr's Merry Melodies" there's a completely different setting of The Nine Pint Coggie.Here it is. M:4/4 K:G |:Bg (3GGG G2 EF|=~F cF Accd|BG (3GGG G2 EF|G2gd Bd d2:|:gagd Bcde|=fgfc Accd|(3dcB (3cBA G2 EF|G2 gd Bd d2:|
# Posted on March 1st 2003 by dafydd
Nine Pint Coggie
This great tune appears on Altan's "Runaway Sunday" and is called "Clan Ranald." What a horrible mistake! It seems that the real "Clan Ranald" was recorded by them as "Lamey's." I think they make at least one mistake in tune identification in every recording, which is as bad as Lunasa.
# Posted on December 15th 2004 by slainte
The Nine Points of Knavery
That's the title for an Irish version listed in Joyce Collection. I happened to record Maire O'Keeffe and Jackie Daly playing it on the radio.
# Posted on May 4th 2005 by slainte
The Nine Pint Coggie
One of my music friends, who almost exclusively plays Cape Breton fiddle music, always repeats the second part, just as Dow does. So does Mairi Rankin on her solo album.
Here's a flute-friendly version:
K: Edor
E2EF E2EB|AFED FAAd|BdAB defe|1 d2DD FEED:|2 d2DD FEE2||
Beef e2de|f2ed Bdde|Beef edef|afed e2ef|
abaf defe|dBAF ABde|faef defe|1 d2DD FEE2:|2 d2DD FEED||
It's a mighty little tune as Quirl (David, Mountain Goat, or Billy) said. The Killarney Boys of Pleasure might be based on this old Scots tune.
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by slainte
Clan Ranald
Altan play "Nine Pint Coggie" on the recording Runaway Sunday, track 5. It's the first tune in the set. They call it Clan Ranald, but the real title is 9 pint coggie.
# Posted on December 2nd 2005 by ~CK
Composer??
Does anyone know if this has a known composer? Or is it just a Trad. tune?
# Posted on August 2nd 2008 by ajh92
Read the first comments by "granama."
# Posted on August 2nd 2008 by slainte