IIig would be pleased

Last week was strange or stranger than I would have preferred, but I’ll tell you all so maybe the or rather a lesson can be learned.
Many know me as Bruce, the NFLD’s think of me as anti "the Rock” which I’m not, I toured with Harry Hibbs for 2 years, that’s Newfoundland’s #1son don’t you know.
Back to the tale.
The lively but Springer’ish thread I involved myself with last week took its vengeance out on me ( not in the thread but at an engagement) with the likes I’ve never know in 6 to 7 day 50 weeks and 37 years of,well, performing. ( Soon to be playing the Penny Whistle in D at a session near you )
Hired to entertain at a company holiday party this Saturday past. ( I posted a video just for IIig and few other if you email me I send you the link )
Upscale as it gets, set-up at 2pm, run home shower and change get back for a 6pm start. Driving into the parking lot where it seemed like 40 valet kids swarmed when I pulled in, very nicely said I’m the entertainer and I’ll park my own car& trailer. I was told to park at the very far end of the property under a huge billboard. They even had a young valet run along side of the car and made sure I was backed-up under the sign just ever so straight. Three times!
The ‘gig’ went as planned, some 450 party folks thrilled, got paid, I’m happy, now to pack-up and get the SUV and trailer around to the stage door…I’m going home!
IIig…this is the part you’ll enjoy.
It seems that this particular billboard is home to 500 pigeons or seagulls.
Because of the exact spot they parked me under, the droppings covered my windshield and side windows completely. It was also unavoidable I stepped into the poop and tracked it into the car, the mats, the carpet. Being dark, I knew nothing until I was sitting in the front seat, not a hint of light through the windshield and the smell now rising from my feet.
Apparently, the Head Valet is the owner’s son and doesn’t like when someone including Mr. Stage doesn’t pay $4 to park the car. The owner and son were gone at this late hour; with only a tired night manager to complain too, I loaded the equipment talking to myself and my partner tried to console me, but defeated I drove home with finger pointing from other motorists on the 1/2hr journey.
Should I mention what happens when you try to clear it with the car wipers?
I woke early the next morning to unload the trailer and head for the carwash where every Km to, and every coin for the carwash made my mind wonder back to thesession.org .


The End

… except it’s not gonna be the boody end is it?

you meant bloody didn’t you?

people get there’s, so the saying goes; but you’re never around to see them ‘get it’…this was so far beyond the pale, even I had to share it with you IIig…you’d be wrong, thats it, done

Isn’t what happened supposed to bring you luck?

I don’t think so,

what is a slip jig and what tempo is it played at?
I know what the jigs & reels are, this one I don’t

Sounds like your jig slipped big time!

Slip jigs are in 9/8. Not all that many are played in sessions (shame!) - but The Kid on the Mountain is one of the more likely ones you’ll hear. I believe I’m correct in saying that slip jigs aren’t used in set dancing, but are used in step dancing.
Regarding speed, I think of a slip jig as being a little slower than a jig or slide, but then it depends on the tune. Some tunes like speed; others like a slower pace. And it depends too on the player and perhaps the instrument; I’ve heard the magnificent An Fhis Phliuch played at a very slow and majestic pace (by a piper), and also at a fairly rollicking jig speed by a good fiddler.
Have a browse through the slip jigs listed in the Tunes section - there are over 200 entries.
BTW I inadvertently posted this first on discussion 11924 - that’s what comes of hopping over to the Tunes section and back to check up on something while preparing this response offline!

thanks for the response …I’ll look for a recording and right back

Oh, um, we forgot to tell you, Ilig doesn’t do *pleased*.

Sure he does. It’s ‘asinine’ and ‘cheesy’ that he doesn’t do.

I think he’s here to stay🙂 …. welcome ‘starting over’. And just as Ilig and the pack were congratulating themselves on chasing away the ‘imposter’!!! Isn’t life just great, sometimes.!!

Woof!

(I thought Jeremy didn’t allow coming back as an alias?)

I want to welcome Starting Over! The Mustard Board should be hot and fiery, not flavourless and dull. In recent times one has opened it up to find a question posted and someone just pasting in a link to a previous discussion as if to say, “Didn’t you take a look first?”. Boring. Bit like going into a pub and saying “How ya doin?” to someone who then just shows you a transcript of what he said last time someone asked him the question. llig always livens things up, even if his withering sarcasm made me donate to a worthy cause the viola that I had the temerity to acquire a few months ago!

Time will tell…but first impressions last.

Depends, Richard. Dow (Noxious B) and I used to have a good old ding-dong on here (which I always won, of course 🙂 ) but sometimes it got a bit too near the knuckle, and offended *other* people. Maybe they didn’t see the funny side, or I saw it *all* as a bit of a joke. Anyway, prudence is a virtue here, as elsewhere.

Come to think of it, any chance that ‘starting over’ has mixed up his slip jigs and his shi* gigs!!

I would imagine, with your musical background, you’ll have little trouble picking up the mechanics of playing the whistle. But you should probably listen to someone like Mary Bergin on either of her two albums “Feadoga Stain 1” or “Feadoga Stain 2” to hear the ornamentation (the real key to this music, I think), the phrasing, the lilt (aka swing) and tempo. She’s a master of that humblest of instruments and those two albums are great collections of fine tunes played wonderfully. You can find them online or probably pick them up at Elderly Instruments in Lansing.

you never stop learning at any age. I won’t fall for the bird droppings again. Beside the banter in here, good and bad, I receive emails from many that are very pleasent and encouraging. Also very interested in the stage school and fighting the jitters on stage.

and while I’m thinking about it, who was the nasty sh%t that called me Mr. Saleman? 60% of the threads posted are selling something or asking where they can buy something musical.
explain that?

starting over, if you’re gonna play music, you’ve gotta have an instrument. When I bought my fiddle a few months ago I came on here with lots of questions and received some extremely helpful advice---what to look for, what to avoid, and yes, suggestions on where to shop. It’s not like there are stores on every corner that sell fiddles and uilleann pipes and Saltire button boxes.

I beg your pardon. I am not associated with Elderly Instruments or Mary Bergin in any way. My suggestion was motivated only by a desire to help, not to receive any financial benefit.

you missed the point kennedy, anyone can see the benefits to coming here for both those items , info & product…
whatever happened to the art of whistling, Roger Wittaker made a fine living from just blowing, and the NFLD’ers use kitchen spoons and have the wee-ones turn over the pot

now there is a fantastic song all you purists should be required to sessionize ‘ Out on The Myra’ a great Canadian East Coast tune. I don’t care where you come from this will fill your grog infested hearts and get a tear going…do some cyber search on that one and give you second cousins from the old sod jails their props

fidkid, are you taking something personally? If you think I was talking about you I wasn’t. I have no knowledge of you selling anything, excpet to be helpful…I’ve been accused of selling, my point was every other thread is someone selling or looking to buy…which in itself is fine, it seemed hypocritical

Starting, maybe the real point is that you were selling something that session players don’t want and don’t need.

the real point is that you still don’t know what our sessions are: “a fantastic song all you purists should be required to sessionize”

Starting Over, I have followed bits of this and the other thread, but maybe I’ve missed something. Have you ever actually sat in with the players or even *been* to a proper, half-decent, pub session before? I’m just curious. The answer might put all this in context for me.
If not make sure your next summer holiday (vacation) is booked to a festival in Ireland, eg Willie Clancy Week or the Fleadh Ceol. Then you’ll be hooked.

what now, you want me to spell check everything…or run something past you two before posting…like thats going to happen

tune….everyone happy?
Please join my school, anti-audience anti-clapping, anti sing-a-long to the tune musicians are always welcome at a performance learning clinic

How can ypou be taken seriously ?

you’d think that by re-naming himself “starting over”, he’d start over.

well Key, there are some parts I enjoy, not all. But asking have I “been” to a proper half-decent session before is very subjective…who’s to say but me.
Since my opinion is the only one that matters to me, I’d say there were always moments of magic and lots of rank ammeters, melodies that seemed to never end.
The argument within this thread, or with most with me is, I see everything from the seats and not from the stage. A tune played well benefits all at the session regardless what the diehards think.
There was a Daniel O’Donnell special on, I can’t imagine anything worst to spend money on, but the huge theatre was full and they love him. He had a fantastic young girl fiddler on, so that was the compromise.
The only opinion on what’s good or bad half-decent is simply yours.

Starting, you do understand that there is no “stage” at a session, don’t you? No performers, no audience? And that nobody pays money to see the music?

and asking if I’ve been to a good session implies you sit in judgement or the performance as well. How else would you be able to comment?
The purists believe its strickly for their pleasure and they don’t give a rats behind if you’re listening.
And if you’re playing and joining in the session then you’re not able to comment either on the playing of the tune because that would again, sitting in judgement of a “performance”

thats simple no true kennedy, they have and do get paid

simply not true ( brain’s working faster than my fingers)

I think you’d know a good session if you went to one. It’s not about making a judgement. I only asked you a very simple question. You seem very defensive about this. You should do yourself a favour and get along to one near you, sit quietly, listen and observe. If you don’t, but continue to come on here with these relatively inane postings, you will only get what you deserve, I’m sorry to say. It’s pitiful to watch a groan man been fed to the lions.

“Starting over,” I think you should change your name to “Not starting over…just rehashing the same old crap.” Because really, that’s all your doing here.

“Groan” man is right !!!

Still digging:

“my opinion is the only one that matters to me”
“lots of rank ammeters, melodies that seemed to never end”
“I see everything from the seats and not from the stage”

Sir, would you like a bigger shovel?

Right, Beg you spotted my deliberate mistake.There was a time when I had a certain amount of sympathy for this character (for about half an hour), but that has turned into disdain and pity for this garrullous, obsequious yet odious buffoon.

I said nobody pays money to see the music. Meaning the people who happen to be there who aren’t playing the music but might be listening to the people who are.

It’s an important distinction, you know. When I pay money to go to see a concert, I have certain expectations---I expect that I’m going to be sitting in a certain spot, that the musicians will play for a certain length of time, that they won’t stop playing whenever they feel like it and start talking to each other while I’m watching, that they already know what they want to play and that they’ve rehearsed it to perfection for my benefit, etc, etc, etc. I expect to be entertained.

When I go into a pub and I’m not there to play and there is music (particularly Irish traditional music), the music is the background, the atmosphere---I’m there to hang out and drink with friends, watch the musicians if I feel like it, maybe join in a song if they sing one I know, etc. The only money I’m spending is for alcohol. If I have my fiddle with me (I haven’t actually done this yet but I plan to), I have the expectation that I can join in and play if I know the tunes. The whole process of joining in is what this website is about. Does that make it clear to you at all?

I have not passed comment on this thread (nor on its monster predecessor) but although it has provided some interest , even amusement at times, the gloss has faded into tedium.

Jeremy, genoeg is genoeg: please rid us of this menace.

Totsiens

somethings are true even when you choose not to believe. I’m still getting emails supporting me. They choose not to comment in the thread, unlike yourselves.
Don’t respond, and then we’re done.

“garrullous, obsequious yet odious buffoon”

How come I had to spend months winding you up before I got insults like that, and this guy only has to stay a few hours? God it’s so unfaaair.

But for some reason Nextstage, no one wants to be seen to support you. Interesting.

but Dow, you’re none of those. You’re just a noxious b*****t.

Yeah and you’re the Lord Of The F***s!

Yes indeed, some things are indeed true, even when you choose not to believe them.

Like music can be played without a performance aspect, for example. Like musicians can get together for the simple enjoyment of playing music in company without a thought to whoever is listening. Or even that musicians can play music without a thought of being paid for it. Or even that the “rank” of “amateur” could be something to glory in.

“somethings are true even when you choose not to believe. I’m still getting emails supporting me”

That is not a substantive response to anything I said. How do you expect people to have a discussion with you when you don’t bother discussing anything?

Gaahh…it’s just not the same when we’re just-pretend slagging each other, kinda being half-nice to each other….

Oh well….

Must we go through this all over again?! I agree with KML, get ye’self to a session- any session - and this will all make a lot more sense to you.

Look, Bruce, if you’re serious about learning what we’re talking about, you should go to Conor O’Neill’s in Ann Arbor at 8PM some Sunday night. (Well, not on Christmas Eve, of course.) While it’s sometimes pretty disfunctional, the Conor’s session is usually one of the most skilled you will find in the US outside of NYC, Boston, and Chicago.

Harry Hibbs -- “Newfoundland’s #1 Son”? By what weird standard?

I think Starting Over just likes the thrill of a good argument. What’s the highest number of threads deleted in any one month? Are we going for a record?

Yes, that must be it.

Talk about ‘flogging a dead horse’ ……….. snorrrrrrr!

I know: it is some form web-based attention-seeking behaviour. And he is getting the attention.
“Wow! look at how many hits my thread got today! I’m some guy!”

How peurile.

Reminds me of an old saying: “Little things amuse little minds and bigger fools look on.” What does that make us?????

speak for yourself🙂
I’m just bored working through the ECDL.

I’m bored too, doing a lit search and keeping an eye on this for entertainments sake only. It’s better than Neighbours, but only because I lost track of who’s who after Dee plunged over the cliff on her wedding day….perhaps we should do a Neighbours thread hijack?? but sadly I’ve got to go and do something more interesting instead now 🙁

sorry don’t know anything about neighbours. But do they still sell Tim-Tams in Australia?

Yum-yum!

Amateur once meant someone who did what they were doing (music, art, sports, etc.) for the love it and not for the pay (from the Latin “amator”: lover, devoted friend, devotee, enthusiastic pursuer of an objective).

As such, I’m quite happy to be considered an amateur. I play music simply for the love of music and don’t cow-tow to the whims of some unknown audience in order to make a few bucks.

same here. I love tim-tams. but i wouldn’t mind getting paid to eat them.

Hussar: Would it be ironic that I’ve learnt “The Flogging Reel” between these two threads?

Isn’t that a great tune?!!! Love that tune

What “two threads”? The last one never existed. And I predict that, at some point, this one will never have existed also. It has two choices as a thread: survive by becoming bland and meaningless, or attempt to answer the unanswerable and become first vitriolic, then slightly hysterical, and then … oblivion.

Just a small example to get us going - has nobody else found the whole premise of the thread insulting? If I were Michael, I would be intensely annoyed that someone who doesn’t know me (I assume this is true?), and is making no effort whatsoever to understand where I’m coming from, should at the same time make the rather insulting (and paranoid) assumption that the misfortune of another would a thing of pleasure to me. Interestingly inhuman take on life there Bruce.

Of course, I’m not speaking for Michael, because I don’t know him either (again, I assume that’s true?), but that IS how I’d feel if I were in his shoes on this one.

its not that they don’t want to be seen with me its some of you folks they think as silly and attacking …

I’ve been to good sessions…and I’ve been to Ok sessions, I’ve been to rank ones

getting back to money, are some of trying to tell me at your many impressive festivals they groups, AHhhh!..wondering in musician’s don’t get paid, and people attending these festivals don’t pay to get a seat, or piece of sod to sit on?

Conor O’Neils it is…I’ll be there this sunday..I’m attending a dinner in Dixborough ( something wrong with the speling) during the day…its a short jump…you can come tomorrow and see me on the MGM Casino main stage, because there is a stage, whomever said there are no stages at sessions is also dead wrong..geezzz

assume away,
as for my thread and the nature of it, is NOT to slag IIig but to inform him (or HE ) that I was taken down big time and not a thing I could do about it. Like being in jail, when Bubba wants you, take it like a man. I believed I owed IIig that much for last weeks fiasco

fi·as·co
1. a total failure, especially a humiliating or ludicrous one

Bruce, I’d be willing to wager your night’s wages for the next year that you’ll never see the sort of session we’re talking about on the MGM Casino main stage. Are you on?

What we have here are two completely different philosophies. We session players see this forum in similar terms to our actual sessions, a chance to get together, discuss some tunes and have a bit of chat in-between. Nextstage on the other hand is a performer and he’s sees this forum in terms of a personal performance, therefore he feels the need to be the centre of attention and put on a really good show with lots of other people watching/reading. Unless Nextstage changes his philosophy to match that of the session players, he’s never going to quite get along with everyone else no matter how many times he tries to start over.

Referring to Harry Hibbs as NFLD’s Favorite Son son has been a saying since 30 maybe 40 years now. He was a jig & reel man with a little red squeeze box (that’s what he called it ) He had a T.V. show from Halifax for many years. He was always nervous when he played, little cap, pipe. He never knew the changes, had no idea of how a tune was structured…
But this is where I look back and think he was playing some slip/jigs, and he couldn’t tell me, because he didn’t know that they were in 9/8 and now it makes perfect sense. He didn’t have a recording of these songs and he had no formal training. He was also gay and died in Toronto penniless working as a night janitor at a Lakeshore seedy motel. I use to take him a carton of cigs on my way by after a gig once in a while. Wife’s name was Margaret and she never divorced him and lives in Toronto. He would do concerts at the Newfoundlander Club near Mississauga. And the Black Swan.. in 1983-85

So, some of you are wrong, there is learning to be done here.

Guess what I found.. oh looky there…. I did say earlier Newfoundland’s #1 Son, or rather Favorite Son…that’s still close…not for some I’m sure

Hibbs, Harry (Henry Thomas Joseph). Singer-songwriter, accordionist, b Bell Island, Nfld, 1942, d Toronto 21 Dec 1989. His father, who worked in the Bell Island iron mines, was a fiddler. The younger Hibbs played button accordion as a boy. He moved to Toronto in 1961 and worked in various factories. In 1968 he began singing and playing the accordion as ‘His Nibs, Harry Hibbs, Newfoundland’s Favourite Son’ at the Caribou Club, a social centre for Newfoundlanders in Toronto. He starred 1969-75 in turn on CHCH (Hamilton) TV’s ‘At the Caribou’ and ‘The Harry Hibbs Show’. With his Caribou Show Band (later called the Sea Forest Plantation) he performed throughout the Maritimes and Ontario and in the early 1970s toured the British Isles.
Hibbs made more than10 LPs for Arc, Caribou, and Marathon before his career waned in the late 1970s. A 20-song retrospective, Pure Gold (Tapestry TL-7375), was issued in 1980. Sales of his early LPs (eg, At the Caribou Club, Arc 794) made him a leading Canadian recording artist of the day. (His recordings to 1972 are listed in detail in Michael Taft’s A Regional Discography of Newfoundland and Labrador 1904-1972, St John’s 1975.) Hibbs’ music mixed the Scottish and Irish folk traditions of the Island with elements of country music, and his repertoire included jigs, reels, and other dance pieces, as well as his own ballads - most of them tributes to Newfoundland.

I would respond to a comment or two here, but I really think this guy is nuts. It’s pretty entertaining, actually. Maybe that’s why he thinks he’s a performer.

Bruce, what were we wrong about? This is all very interesting about Mr. Hibbs, but what’s your point?

Was that not a nice thing to say? I hope not. It’s hard to know where the line is on these internet discussion boards sometimes…especially when one person in the conversation is off in his own world…

I’m open, willing, and ready for any talk about performance, entertaining, anytime.

I truly get what sessions is all about. If you have some 31k members on this web site, and many, many musician’s that play somewhere in the world, which seems like everyday. I have nothing but good things to say to each and everyone of you for your effort, craft, hardwork, discussions, trading info and tunes.
I’m not asking to be the center of anything, its you that have put me in that situation.

You respond, in kind, slag, rude, understanding…I have promised some that email me, not to meantion their names, whom believe what they do is a performance. They don’t want any attention. I don’t speak for them, just myself.

But I am going to Ann Arbor this sunday and anyone that wants to shake my hand, poke me in the nose can do so. I’ll be taking pix and posting them on my site.

why aren’t there any pix linked at sessions.og and all these big festivals you’ve been talking about? I’d like to see to them if anyone knows the sites.

Starting, I really don’t mean to be rude, but we have not put you in the centre of attention, you have done it yourself. You started a thread of which you were the main subject. Now, if you like to perform, there is nothing wrong with that, the world needs performers, it would be a dull place without them. You do seem to have a need to be centre of attention, and in a way there is nothing wrong with that either. You have already learned a lot about how you are perceived in this forum and that can only be useful to you. The problem you seem to be encountering here is that session players are not deliberately performers so we have little common ground. Perhaps if you can acknowledge that you are a performer and you like to be at the centre of everything, but that on this forum it is not the best approach to take, then you might get along a bit better.

Bruce wrote: “I truly get what sessions is all about.”

I have yet to be convinced, but my opinion doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. I hope you find out someday soon what a session’s “all about” so you can really be ‘starting over’ instead of rehashing everything. Good luck to you.

“I’m open, willing, and ready for any talk about performance, entertaining, anytime.”

You still don’t get what this site and sessions are about. It seems everyone here is talking to a rather large, obtrusive brick wall.

Perhaps it’s easier to give up and go play a tune, rather than waste our collective energies trying to show Bruce how little he understands.

Let’s not be too hard on Bruce, he probably innocently stumbled onto this site without realizing what aspect of ITM we were about. I’m assuming he isn’t here to harass us, and I’m hoping the haze clears soon so he doesn’t dig his hole so deep he’ll never be able to climb out and join in the fun.

My advise to Bruce is to lurk for a while instead of trying to demonstrate how you “get what sessions is all about.” Also, go out and get your hands on Mary Bergin’s 1st recording, and then with whistle in hand, begin your journey into ITM. We’ll meet up with you again somewhere along the way and see how it’s going. No hard feelings… ok?

Yes you are right benhall. I take no satisfaction at all from Mr Stage’s sh*te predicament. It is very odd indeed that he felt he owed me the image of his humiliation. In the light of this complete lack of understanding of people, it’s not odd that he can’t understand the concept of sessions. As I said, after he said, “the end”, "I wish it bloody was.

However, it’s not the end. He’s still digging. Here’s some more of his ravinings that show us who he is:

When describing someone … “he had no formal training. He was also gay.”

“Hibbs’ music mixed the Scottish and Irish folk traditions of the Island” … What Island is that again?

How can you stop, the sun from shinning
What makes the world go around..

tell me who wrote it and I’ll be gone for 4hrs

you won’t stop, will you IIig, the great Isle of Newfoundland..

Canada

Al Green : How Can You Mend a Broken Heart?

Well, go on then Bruce - tell us all about these sessions you’ve been to: the good ones, the ok ones and the rank ones.
What instruments? which pubs? which players? people on this site who live where you’ve been are bound to know the pubs and the players.
And since you’ve gone ahead and classified them (using your *judgement*, I presume), tell us why you judged certain ones to be good, ok or rank.
It’s your call, pal.

Oh please Key-Lad…I’m not that much of a performing monkey

Morning Star, I was about to say “wrong ” but looking at my question “ who wrote this?”..it should have been “ who sang it”..I’ll have to research, I thought it was Barry Gibb, though I was going for The Bee Gee’s sang, and the title is correct…

Morning Star back to let you know “you are wrong ” must be that Google search you did,

The Bee Gee’s 1971. “How Can You Mend a Broken Heart?” was an anguished, yet soothing ballad, composed expressly for Andy Williams. When Williams turned it down, the Bee Gees decided to record it themselves. “The writing of it was neither a struggle nor a hardship,” said Robin. “The whole thing took about an hour to complete. The song reached the number one spot, to our great satisfaction.”

Andy Willaims… let’s see… oh yea, isn’t he a box player from Vermont? And don’t you mean ‘The Bumble Bees’?

He maybe Irish for all I know, certainly Trad.

now go pick on the poor sole how wants to Jam

QED

I just wanted to point out that Bruce is absolutely right about you guys making him the centre of attention. He knows that, and he’s milking it for all it’s worth, knowing you’re never going to get sick of pointing out how little he knows about trad, and he’s enjoying it. He’s laughing at you. It makes for really painful reading.

I agree. Can we all just agree to stop posting, starting NOW??? I know I’m not going to even read this any more, it’s just pointless and not any fun by now.

ps, good lord, Noxious- that is one long bio!!!! 😀

He’s just compensating. 😉

Dow - we all knew that anyway. (Well, *I* did, and I know everything - according to you, that is.) But you’re right, he is having the last laugh. I just wanted to establish whether he had been to sessions - which and when, and I got my answer by a circuitous route - a big fat vacuous fikkin ZERO.

I agree, Noxious. Still, there’s a kind of fascination … something about this reminds me of a wasp in a bees’ nest, for some reason …

Danny, you said we were all too nasty to him last time - have you seen the light?

… and, btw, re-reading all the posts, we’ve been ever so nice really, some of us quite amazingly so - probably not me, but I’m genuinely impressed by the people who have continued to be nice in really quite provoking circumstances.

Thats it for us…
Thank you New York!.. WE LOVE YOU!.. GOOD NIGHT!…HA!

ps, Phantom you think this about size? Thats just way too much

pss, Noxious, my God, they should give you an award for knowledge of ITM ( which I’m only guessing sinse I know diddly about ) and Bio Page.

You should all take up playing the bodhran, then you’d all feel free to teach each other some manners.

Manners would be nice

It makes for appalling reading. Way back in the last thread Dow was warning people not to feed the troll. I’m very surprised that people here who normally show a fair bit of intellectual rigour are going out of their way to encourage a guy who needs a bit of pity, but who most certainly does not need to be indulged. There are many obvious reasons to just let Bruce be. Do us all a favour and wish the guy well and then let him either go away and find people who care for him, or let him alone without building a brick wall for him to bash his face against.

Well said, sergeant… but before we say good night, I would like to pay tribute to Bruce’s list of famous celebs and influences. If you go to the website for his duo, “Rock & Soul,” scroll to the bottom and see how he might have been the influence for a well-known SNL skit that Will Ferrell and his wife did called “Bobby & Marty.”

http://www.rockandsoul.us

you couldn’t leave it be, you had to make fun of how I provide for my family and make what I do sound like a joke or a skit of a bald piano teacher and skinning wife that make up medleys.
as a matter of fact, we’re just like that…people over the world, join hands, start a love train, love train

skinny, skinny wife..not that other word

I think I’ll just skip this one. My head hurts.

mine too Eliot, Silence is Golden

skinny wives……now there’s a topic.

Morning Star isn’t totally wrong. Although the Bee Gees wrote and recorded ‘How can you mend a broken heart’, Al Green took the sacharine pop-song and turned it into a work of tortured genius. In fact, the track turned up on my ipod in the car on the way back from the Herschell this Monday, but one look fromJerry made me know I had to skip it, and fortunately a Nomos track popped up next, so everything was ok again.

I didn’t post that with mal intent, Bruce -- I just thought it was kind of funny and would lighten the mood. Love train and all that craic… hahahahaha

Hey, I’ve learned something here. I had no idea “Newfoundland’s Favourite Son” was part of Harry Hibbs’ stage name. Suppose I should drag up one of his LPs from the basement and give it a listen. (They were bought in a bunch from eBay as my wife attempted to find diamonds in the rough, like the sweet 1967 John White “Voice of Newfoundland” album, or the utterly goofy Ray Walsh accordion (+ surf rock rhythm section) album from the same year.)

I just can’t refuse. Harry hibbs was indeed a good Newfoundland ciardin player but far from being her #1 son. Rufus Guinchard comes a long way before Mr Hibbs. He was responsible for salvaging many tunes from not only Newfoundland but from Labrador as well and keeping them alive and well in our cultural identity. Then there’s Noel Dinn who turned the traditional music industry on it’s ear and brought traditional music back from the brink of obscurity with Figgy Duff through the 70’s and 80’s. So please don’t drag the newfies into this by using Hary Hibbs as a prime example of Newfie brilliance. We get slagged enough already.

“starting over”-- that’s cute!

Perhaps it’s time to discuss the true origins of the tree decorating Holiday? Any takers?


Peace…

--gw

Oh come on, n.p., how can you mention Rufus and ignore Emile Benoit? 🙂

Thought for the day

“It is best to keep your mouth shut and be presumed ignorant than to open it and remove all doubt.” -Mark Twain.

🙂

Hey Nox ! Are you available for parties?

“Irish session music is better than it sounds” - Mark Twain

(Or something like that.)

Why do we feed the troll? Perhaps it’s because there is a pay off for us in doing so? Why do we feed the slot machines at the seaside? We know there’s no point to it and we aren’t going to win, but if it’s cold and grey and raining and there’s not much else to do then we will feed some coins into a machine for a few minutes and as soon as the sun comes out we will go and do something else. I am working from home today and when I get bored or have a break I will drop in and have a look and perhaps feed the troll a couple of lines, then I’ll get back to work and eventually this thread will be deleted because it has very little to do with ITM.

p i s s i n g i n t h e w i n d

Michael - if you p*ss into the wind, you get your own back.

“lots of rank ammeters”

*splorf*

Can’t resist, as an electrical engineer and a sort-of professional writer, my learned contribution to this (ahem) “Irish music discussion” is to declare this statement *brilliant*. I’ve faced down lots of ammeters in my time but to face a rank one, well, that’s courage.

😀

Just to point out, the, “ if you p*ss into the wind” post was not me..someone trying to be me…thats flattering

startinq over…thats so cute…show me something else.

Figgy Duff, there is a name that doesn’t surface often.
How’s the Rankin family doing out there?
Heather played Mary Magolin to my best buddy
Alfie Zappacosta as Jesus ( Jesus Christ Superstar ) in Halifax 3 years ago.
He’s off to do the lead in We Will Rock You at the London Palladium…

did someone use the dreaded "newfie’ word….

the Harry Hibbs Favorite Son was self- titled…

Ah the little troll has woken up again! We have our own little cyber pet! Keep him fed or he may die and then we won’t have him any more! 🙂

Has anyone pointed out that Starting Over is a John Lennon song? Yoko should be told.