Common polkas + sources

Common polkas + sources

Following on from my "slides" project https://thesession.org/discussions/16942 I just completed this list of popular polka sets, in an attempt to find out which popular recordings session musicians would have learnt the "classic" sets from. As with the slides, I found that many of the sets came from old Chieftains and Bothy Band recordings, rather than the people you usually associate with slides and polkas. Again, I’m hoping that people here would be able to comment on which of these they hear in their sessions and what others they find are popular. I’m particularly interested to find out where session musicians got the last few in the list under the heading "random polkas". Also included in this list are some Sligo/Leitrim style polkas, and also some marches which often get played as polka sets.

POLKAS

Planxty Set
Planxty: Cold Blow And The Rainy Night

X: 1
T: Denis Murphy’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
f/g/f/e/ d>B|AD FA|GE e>d|cB BA|
f/g/f/e/ d>B|AD FA|GE e>f|ed d2:|
|:Af f/e/f|Ag g/f/g|Af f/e/f|e/f/e/d/ BA|
Af f/e/f|Ag g>a|ba gc|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: The Forty-Two Pound Cheque
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
Ad Bd/B/|AD FA|GE BE|A>G FD|
Ad Bd/B/|AD FA|GE A>G|FD D2:|
|:Ad fe/f/|g>f ed|cA eA|e>d cA|
Ad fe/f/|g>f ed|cA Bc|d2 d2:|

X: 1
T: John Ryan’s
T: The Keadue
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
dd B/c/d/B/|AF AF|dd B/c/d/B/|AF ED|
dd B/c/d/B/|AF Ad/e/|fd ec|d2 d2:|
|:fd de/f/|gf ed/e/|fd Ad|fa a>g|
fd de/f/|gf ed/e/|fd ec|d2 d2:|


Jackie Daly’s Set
Jackie Daly & Seamus Creagh

X: 1
T: Bill Sullivan’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
a2 a>f|ec a>f|ec a>f|ec BA|
a2 a>f|ec a>f|ec B>c|BA A2:|
|:ce ec|df f2|ce ec|cB B2|
ce ec|df f2|ce B>c|BA A2:|

X: 1
T: Britches Full of Stitches
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
A>B cA|BA cA|A>B cA|BA F2|
A>B cA|BA ce|A>B AF|FE E2:|
|:e>f ec|BA Bc|e>f ec|BA F2|
e>f ec|BA Bc|A>B AF|FE E2:|


Chieftains Set
Chieftains 2

X: 1
T: Sweeney’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
ef/e/ ce|Ae ce|f/g/a/f/ ec|BA F2|
ef/e/ ce|Ae ce|f/g/a/f/ ec|BA A2:|
|:ce fa/f/|ec BA|ce fa/f/|ec B2|
ce fa/f/|ec BA|ef/e/ cB|BA A2:|

X: 1
T: Denis Murphy’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
f/g/f/e/ d>B|AD FA|GE e>d|cB BA|
f/g/f/e/ d>B|AD FA|GE e>f|ed d2:|
|:Af f/e/f|Ag g/f/g|Af f/e/f|e/f/e/d/ BA|
Af f/e/f|Ag g>a|ba gc|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: The Scartaglen
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
G2 G>A|Bd de/f/|gB B/A/G/A/|BA AB/A/|
G2 G>A|Bd de/f/|gB AB/A/|G2 G2:|
|:Bd ga/g/|fe e/f/g/e/|dB B/A/G/A/|BA A2|
Bd ga/g/|fe e/f/g/e/|dB AB/A/|G2 G2:|
|:g2 ag/a/|b2 ba|gf/g/ ag/a/|b2 ba|
ge e/f/g/e/|dB g>e|dB AB/A/|G2 G2:|


Peg Ryan’s Set
Chieftains 5

X: 1
T: Egan’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
fA BA|fA BA|d2 e>f|ed BA|
fA BA|fA BA|d2 e>f|ed d2:|
|:fa fe|ed BA|d2 e>f|ed BA|
fa fe|ed BA|d2 e>f|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: The Murroe
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
Bd G>A|Bd GB|A2 FA|GE ED|
Bd G>A|Bd GB|A2 FA|AG G>A:|
|:B/c/d ef|g2 ga|f/e/d ef|ed BA|
B/c/d ef|g2 ga|f/e/d ef|e2 ed:|

X: 1
T: The Springtime
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Ador
cd/c/ Bc/B/|AB/A/ G>A|Bd ed|g2 ed|
ea ge|dB GA/B/|ce dB|1 A2 AB:|2 A2 Ad||
|:ea ag/e/|dg gd|ea ab|g2 ed|
ea ge|dB GA/B/|ce dB|1 A2 Ad:|2 A2 AB||


The Ballydesmond Set
Denis Murphy & Julia Clifford: The Star Above The Garter

X: 1
T: Donncha Lynch’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmix
A>B AG|EF GE|A>B AG|Ad d/e/d/c/|
A>B AG|EF G2|AB cE|ED D2:|
Ad d>d|ed c>d|ed cd|ea a/b/a/g/|
ed c>d|ed cB|A>B cd|ef g>f|
ed B/^c/d|eA B/^c/d|ed ^cd|ea a>g|
e/f/g d>B|ce d>B|AB cE|ED D2||

X: 1
T: Maurice Manley’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Ador
EA AB|cd e2|G>F GA|GE ED|
EA AB|cd e>f|g/f/e dB|A2 A2:|
|:a>g ab|ag ef|g>f ga|ge ed|
ea ab|ag ef|g/f/e dB|A2 A2:|

X: 1
T: The Springtime
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Ador
cd/c/ Bc/B/|AB/A/ G>A|Bd ed|g2 ed|
ea ge|dB GA/B/|ce dB|1 A2 AB:|2 A2 Ad||
|:ea ag/e/|dg gd|ea ab|g2 ed|
ea ge|dB GA/B/|ce dB|1 A2 Ad:|2 A2 AB||


The Siege Of Ennis Set

X: 1
T: The Banks Of Inverness
T: The Croppies’ March
T: The Siege Of Ennis
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
E|D>E DB,|DE GA|Bd AB/A/|GE EG/E/|
D>E DB,|DE GA|Bd AB/A/|G2 G:|
A|Bd dB|ce ed/c/|Bd AB/A/|GE EA|
Bd dB|ce e>f|g/f/e fd|e2 e>f|
g/f/e fd|e/f/e/d/ BA|Bd AB/A/|GE EG/E/|
D>E DB,|DE GA|Bd AB/A/|G2 G||

X: 1
T: The Rattlin’ Bog
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
c2 c>B|AF F2|EA AB|cB B2|
c2 c>B|AF F2|Ee ec|BA A2:|
|:cA BA|cA BA|ce ec|BA B2|
cA BA|cA BA|ce ec|BA A2:|


The Glenside Set
Glenside & Kilfenora Ceili Bands: Songs, Jigs, Reels

X: 1
T: The Mist On The Glen
T: Cathy’s Favourite
T: The Kerry #1
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
G>A Bd|gf ed|eA AB|cd/c/ BA|
G>A Bd|gf ed|ea ef|g2 g2:|
|:ae ae|ae e>f|gd gd|gd d2|
ae ae|ae e>f|ge dB|A2 A2:|

X: 1
T: The Kerry #2
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Edor
B2 B>A|FA DA|B2 B>A|B/c/d ed|
B2 B>A|FA D>E|FD AF|E2 E2:|
|:Be e>f|ed BA|Be ef|ed Bc|
d>e dB|AF D>E|FD AF|E2 E2:|


The Tuar Mór Set
Johnny O’Leary: Music for the Set. Traditional Irish Music from Sliabh Luachra

X: 1
T: The Gullane
T: Wallace’s Cross
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
ef/e/ dB|BA B/c/d|ef/e/ dB|BA A2|
ef/e/ dB|BA B/c/d|ab/a/ gc|ed d:|
|:f>e fA|B/c/d ef|g>f ga|ba f/g/a|
f>e fA|B/c/d ef|ab/a/ gc|ed d:|

X: 1
T: The Maids Of Ardagh
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
FA BA|de f2|fe/f/ gc|ed BA|
FA BA|de f2|fe/f/ gc|ed d2:|
|:ef/e/ ce|fe a2|ef/e/ ce|fe c/B/A|
ef/e/ ce|fe a2|ef/e/ dB|BA A2:|!


The Knocknaboul Set
Denis Murphy & Julia Clifford: The Star Above The Garter

X: 1
T: Scartaglen, The
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
G2 G>A|Bd de/f/|gB B/A/G/A/|BA AB/A/|
G2 G>A|Bd de/f/|gB AB/A/|G2 G2:|
|:Bd g>g|fe e/f/g/e/|dB B/A/G/A/|BA A2|
Bd g>g|fe e/f/g/e/|dB AB/A/|G2 G2:|
|:g2 ag/a/|b2 b>a|gg ag/a/|b2 b>a|
ge e/f/g/e/|dB g>e|dB AB/A/|G2 G2:|

X: 1
T: Ask Our Dan
T: The Sneem
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
GB B/c/B/A/|GB BA/G/|FA DA|FA DA|
GB B/c/B/A/|GB d>g|fd cA|G2 G2:|
|:g2 g>f|ga ag|fd de|fg af|
g2 g>f|ga ag|fd cA|G2 G2:|
|:B2 c2|dB AG|FD DE|FG Ac|
B2 c2|dB A>g|fd cA|G2 G2:|


The Glen Cottage Set
Jackie Daly: Music From Sliabh Luachra

X: 1
T: From Billy To Jack
T: Sir Patrick Was a Gentleman
T: The Green Cottage
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Emin
GE ED|B,E EF|GF ED|GA B/c/B/A/|
GE ED|B,E EG|Bc/B/ AG|1 E2 B>A:|2 E2 EA||
|:Be ef|eB BA|Be f/e/d|e2 ef|
ga/g/ fg/f/|eB BA|BE E/F/G/A/|B2 B>A:|

X: 1
T: Tralee Gaol
T: As I Went Out Upon The Ice
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Ador
eA AB/d/|e/f/e/d/ Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|e/f/e/d/ Bd|ea e/f/e/d/|BA A2:|
|:e>d ef/g/|ae f/e/d/B/|d>e de/f/|ge f/e/d|
e>d ef/g/|ae f/e/d|ea e/f/e/d/|BA A2:|


The Newmarket Set
Patrick Street: Irish Times

X: 1
T: Derrygallen Bridge
C: John Walsh
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
A>B cB|AF FE|CE FE|CE FE|
A>B cB|AF FE|CE FE|1 A2 AE:|2 A2 A2||
|:ab/a/ ga|ba af|ec cB|AB ce|
ab/a/ ga|ba af|ec cB|1 A2 A2:|2 A2 AE||

X: 1
T: Dan Mac’s
T: Jerome Burke’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
DF AF/A/|dc Bc|EF GF/G/|BA F2|
DF AF/A/|dc Bc|EF GF/E/|DF D2:|
|:fA fA|fA f2|eA eA|B/c/d e2|
fA fA|fA f2|eA B/c/d|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: Terry “Cuz” Teehan’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
E>E Ec|BA FA|E>E Ec|BA AF|
E>E Ec|BA FA|E2 e>c|1 BA AF:|2 BA A>B||
ce B>c|BA FA|ce B>c|BA AB|
ce B>c|BA FA|E>E Ec|BA AB||
ce B>c|BA FA|ce Bc/e/|fe cB|
ce B>c|BA FA|E2 e>c|BA AF||


Kevin Burke’s Set
Kevin Burke: Up Close

X: 1
T: Charlie Harris’
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
AF DF|EF DF|AF AB|e2 d>B|
AF DF|EF DF|AF AB|1 d2 d>B:|2 d2 dA||
d2 fd|ef dB|AF AB|e2 dB|
d2 fd|ef dB|AF AB|d2 dA|
d2 fd|ef dB|AF AB|e2 ef|
df f/e/f/g/|af f>g|af ef|d2||

X: 1
T: Levan Polkka
T: Savitaipaleen Polkka
T: Finnish Polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Bmin
B>c Bc|dB Bd|cA Ac|d/c/B/A/ BF|
B>c Bc|dB B2|ef/e/ dc|BA B2:|
|:f2 df|ec cd|ef/e/ dc|Bc dB|
f2 df|ec cd|ef/e/ dc|BA B2:|

X: 1
T: Jessica’s
C: Mick Hanly
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
ef/e/ ce|fe Bc|A>B cA|ec B2|
ef/e/ ce|fe Bc|A>B cA|FA E2:|
|:F>B AF|cB A2|ef/e/ ce|ag f2|
ef/e/ ce|fe Bc|A>B cA|FA E2:|


The Cuil Aodha Set
Jackie Daly: Music From Sliabh Luachra

X: 1
T: Jim Keefe’s
T: John Walsh’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
a2 af/a/|ba fa|g2 Bc|ed c/B/A|
a2 af/a/|ba fa|g2 Bc|ed d2:|
|:f>e fe|dc BA|g>f ga|ba f/g/a|
f>e fe|dc BA|g2 Bc|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: The Ballyvourney
T: The Ballyvournie
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Edor
EF/G/ FE|FD FA|EF/G/ FE|F2 FA|
EF/G/ FE|FD FA|B>A B/c/d|1 e2 e2:|2 e2 eB/c/||
|:dA FA|DA FA|c>B GB|A2 AB/c/|dA FA|
DA FA|B>A B/c/d|1 e2 f>e:|2 e2 e2||

X: 1
T: The Wren’s
T: Johnnie Mickey’s
T: Johnny Mickey’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
Ac EF|A>A Af|ec BA|e/f/e/c/ Bc/B/|
Ac EF|A>A Af|ec BA/B/|1 cA Ac/B/:|2 cA AB||
|:ce ce|a2 af|ec BA|e/f/e/c/ BA|ce ce|
a2 af|ec BA/B/|1 cA AB:|2 cA Ac/B/||


John Walsh’s Set
Patrick Street: All In Good Time

X: 1
T: Jim Keefe’s
T: John Walsh’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
a2 af/a/|ba fa|g2 Bc|ed c/B/A|
a2 af/a/|ba fa|g2 Bc|ed d2:|
|:f>e fe|dc BA|g>f ga|ba f/g/a|
f>e fe|dc BA|g2 Bc|ed d2:|


X: 1
T: Daly’s Mill
C: John Walsh
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Amaj
Ac ef|ec c/d/c/B/|Ac ef|e2 ea|
Ac ef|ec c/d/c/B/|AF FE|1 A2 AB:|2 A2 Ac/e/||
|:fe c/d/c/B/|AF FE|A>B Ac|e2 ec/e/|
fe c/d/c/B/|AF FE|A>B AF|1 A2 Ac/e/:|2 A2 AB||

X: 1
T: Lackagh Cross
T: Locha Cross
T: Din Tarrant’s
T: Bill The Weaver
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Bmin
dB fB/c/|dB fe/d/|c/B/A/c/ e/c/A/B/|c/B/A/c/ ec/e/|
fb ba|fb ba|fa fe/c/|1 d/c/A BB/c/:|2 d/c/A Bf||
|:a>f df|A/B/c/d/ e2|g/f/e/d/ cA|Bc df|
a>f df|A/B/c/d/ e2|g/f/e/d/ cA|1 Bc df:|2 Bc dB/c/||


Din Tarrant’s Set
Johnny O’Leary: Johnny O’Leary Of Sliabh Luachra

X: 1
T: Dan Mac’s
T: Jerome Burke’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
DF AF/A/|dc Bc|EF GF/G/|BA F2|
DF AF/A/|dc Bc|EF GF/E/|DF D2:|
|:fA fA|fA f2|eA eA|B/c/d e2|
fA fA|fA f2|eA B/c/d|ed d2:|

X: 1
T: The Cobbler
T: Pádraig O’Keeffe’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Bmin
dB bB|de f>e|dB bB|c/B/A/c/ ef/e/|
dB bB|de f>e|d>e f/e/d|1 B2 B>c:|2 B2 B2||
|:fe/f/ ba|fe f>e|dB bB|c/B/A/c/ ed/e/|
fe/f/ ba|fe f>e|d>e f/e/d|1 B2 B2:|2 B2 B>c||


Sligo/Leitrim Style Set
Chieftains 1

X: 1
T: Church Street
T: Memories Of Ballymote
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: steady polka
K: Gmaj
BG D>D|Ec cA/B/|cE FE|Dd d/e/d/c/|
BG D>D|Ec cA/B/|c/B/A/G/ F/D/E/F/|GB G2:|
|:g2 f2|c3 d|e>f ed|B3 c|
d>e d/c/B|A3 B/A/|1 GA Bc|d3 e/f/:|2 Gg fa|g2 g2||

X: 1
T: Saint Mary’s
T: Gurteen Cross
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: steady polka
K: Gmaj
GB AB/A/|Gg e/f/g/e/|dB AG/A/|BA G/F/E/D/|
GB AB/A/|Gg e/f/g/e/|dB AG/A/|BG G2:|
|:Bd g>d|Bd g>d|Bd g>e|f3 g|
a/b/a/g/ f/g/f/e/|dB AB/A/|Ge d/B/A/B/|G2 G2:|


March Set
Denis Murphy & Julia Clifford: The Star Above The Garter

X: 1
T: Farewell to Whiskey
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: steady polka/march
K: Gmaj
DG B/A/G/A/|BE EG/E/|DG B/A/G/B/|dB Bd|
e/f/g/e/ dB|c/B/A/G/ AB|DG B/A/G/A/|BG G2:|
|:dB/d/ gg|e/f/g/e/ dB|dB/d/ gg|ef g2|
e/f/g/e/ dB|c/B/A/G/ AB|DG B/A/G/A/|BG G2:|

X: 1
T: Dark Girl Dressed In Blue
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: steady polka/march
K: Dmaj
FA Ad|B/c/d/B/ AF|GB AF/A/|BE G/F/E/D/|
FA Ad|B/c/d/B/ AF|GB A/B/A/G/|FD DE:|
|:FA A/B/d/e/|f/e/f/d/ ed|Bd/B/ AF/A/|BE G/F/E/D/|
FA A/B/d/e/|f/e/f/d/ ed|Bd/B/ A/B/A/G/|FD DE:|


Johnny O’Leary’s Set
(Originally from the playing of Johnny O’Leary and also Pádraig O’Keeffe)
John Brosnan: The Cook In The Kitchen
The Abbey Céilí Band: Bruach An TSuláin
Seamus Creagh And Aidan Coffey: Traditional Music From Ireland

X: 1
T: John Clifford’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
D>E FA|Bc d2|BA FA|B/c/B/A/ FA|
D>E FA|Bc d2|BA FE|D2 D2:|
|:d>c BA|Bc d2|BA FA|B/c/B/A/ FA|
d>c BA|Bc d2|BA FE|D2 D2:|

X: 1
T: Brosna #2
T: Nell Fees’
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
D2 DB|AF FB|AF D>E|FE E2|
D2 DB|AF FB|AF EF/E/|1 DA, B,C,:|2 D2 FA||
|:d2 cd|BA FA|d2 cd|B2 Bc|
d2 cd|BA FB|AF EF/E/|D2 FA:|
|:d2 e2|f3 e|dc Bc|d3 A|
Bd/B/ AF|Bd/B/ AF|AF EF/E/|1 D2 FA:|2 DA, B,C||


Random polkas

X: 1
T: The Galway Belles
T: 69th Street
T: Terry “Cuz” Teehan’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Edor
E>F GA|Be B2|AF DF|EF DF|
E>F GA|Be B2|AF DF|E2 E2:|
e2 B2|ee B2|AF DF|EF DF|
e2 B2|ee B2|AF DF|E2 E2|
e2 B2|ee B2|AF DF|EF DF|
E>F GA|Be B2|AF DF|E2 E2||

X: 1
T: Dalaigh’s
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Ador
eA BA|eA BA|eA BA|G2 GB/d/|
eA BA|eA BA|Be dB|A2 A2:|
|:ed ef|g>a gf|ed eg|a2 g2|
ed ef|g>a ge|dB gB|A2 A2:|

X: 1
T: I Have A Bonnet Trimmed With Blue
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: steady polka
K: Gmaj
GA/B/ ce|dG B2|de/d/ cA|AG B2|
GA/B/ ce|dG B2|de/d/ cA|AG G2:|
|:de/f/ gf/e/|dG B2|de/d/ cA|AG B2|
de/f/ gf/e/|dG B2|de/d/ cA|AG G2:|

X: 1
T: Tom Sullivan’s
T: An Spailpin Fanach
T: Did You Wash Your Father’s Shirt?
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmix
D/E/F/G/ AB|cA AG|Ad d^c|d3 e|
fd ed|cA AB|cA GE|D4:|
|:fd ed|cA Ad/e/|fd ed|fg a>g|
fd ed|cA AB|cA GE| D4:|

X: 1
T: Maggie in the Wood
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
B/A/|GD GA|Be eg/e/|dB AG/A/|BA AB/A/|
GD GA|Be eg/e/|dB AB/A/|G2 G:|
e/f/|gf ed|ef ge|dB AG/A/|BA Ae/f/|
gf ed|ef ge|dB AB/A/|G2 Ge/f/|
gf ed|ef ge|dB AG/A/|BA AB/A/|
GD GA|Be eg/e/|dB AB/A/|G2 G||

X: 1
T: The Spanish Lady
T: As I Went To Dublin City
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
FA AB/c/|d>c de/f/|ge fd|BA A/B/A/G/|
FA AB/c/|d>c de/f/|ge fd|BA A2:|
|:fa a/b/a/f/|ed de|fa a>f|ed e2|
fa a/b/a/f/|ed de/f/|ge fd|BA A2:|

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Change the "Bothy Band recordings" comment to Planxty. I got lazy with my cut & paste there. I don’t even think the Bothy Band ever recorded any polkas did they? Strange that they should do slides but not polkas…

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Hey Dow, How come you managed to get two discussions in on the one day? Is it a time difference thing? Is this a perk of living in Australia? I suppose they have to have something down there, having to share a continent with you.

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The cross over time for us Key is in the afternoon…. So next time your feeling particularly garrulous and want to do two discussions in a row, add one around 1 p.m., and another after 3 p.m… 😀

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What, so I can do that without having to go to Australia….where I might bump into Dow?
Phew!!!

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I know the great majority of them. I’ve picked a lot up by noodling them in sessions.

Otherwise, off recordings of Radio Eireann when you could get it in the NE; the odd band-list; Bulmer & Sharpley tune-books; album-wise, Jackie Daly "Music From Sliabh Luachra" (I think), the Planxty set, Michael Gorman etc. on "From Erin’s Green Shore", a set off De Danaan’s "Selected - " etc. album, and one or two more.

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Cheers Dow!

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Most of the tunes we play for the dancing come from Simon Knight (RIP), a local squeezebox player. I was told he went to Kerry 40? years ago on a holiday/caving expeition and came back with the bug. All the polkas, slides and hornpipes we play for the sets come from him.

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"Hey Dow, How come you managed to get two discussions in on the one day?"

OK, Key Maniac Lad, here’s how I did it. I want you to follow my instructions very carefully:

1) First pour a can of petrol all over yourself
2) Then strike a match or cigarette lighter
3) You are now invincible and able to submit as many discussion in one day as you please

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I like the set called "Bridge O’Learys/Polka" on "Tom Doherty’s Take the Bull by the Horns" CD
Bridge O’Leary’s is a version of Sweeneys, but I don’t know what the 2nd one is and have posted a query on the recordings section

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Sixteen of the polkas on Dow’s list I learned by accompanying the other musicians at the local Irish Sessions when one of the lead players would introduce a new tune by starting to play it at the sessions. As the piano player, I was primarily concerned with what key the tune started in and what the chord changes were.
I became interested in playing this music after I attended a workshop on Folk Keyboard in 1981 which was taught by Triona ni Dhomhnaill (from the Bothy Band). However, I didn’t have anyone else to play this music with until some other local musicians started an Irish Jam Session here in 1995. I showed up at the second jam session and listened. When they finished, I told them what I played (piano and bass) and asked if I could bring one of my instruments to the next session. I was asked to bring my genuine imitation piano (a Roland EP-90 Digital Piano) to help "fill out" the sound and contribute to the general cacophony of the session. Since then, I have been participating more or less irregularly as the piano player of the local Irish Session.

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No doubt you’ve tried that and survived, Dow, cos as we know, sh!te doesn’t burn.
🙂

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Ah but we all know that dry sh*tes *do* burn, and that’s why I suggested it for you 🙂

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I suppose that’s my dry wit and sarcasm you’re referring to, in which case it’s already burning hot.
Anyway, don’t suggest anything you’re not prepared to try out yourself first.
So you go first.

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To be serious for a moment, as it happens, I really like Polkas and Slides, and well done Dow for posting some of them here. Just looking at that older discussion, it seems they are underplayed at other sessions.

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They are also undervalued, as some folks admit, they ‘noodle’ them rather than actually learning to play them half decent. The mistake is to take them for granted and then play them without any interest of real sign of understanding or ability. We too often relegate them to ‘beginner’ tune. The same is true with dances. Sometimes the thing easiest to start with is the hardest to really understand and do justice to, tune or dance. The focus is too often on the fast stuff, which is also often played missing the heart of the form… Speed, as repeated time and again, covers up a multitude of shight… If you’re moving fast enough you don’t necessarily have to pay attention to the fact you haven’t the control or the interest the tune deserves. If you can’t play it with life and interest slowly, then you sure as hell aren’t doing any better up to speed and beyone…

Sorry, I’ll kick the soapbox back under the desk… Pain has me less than patient still… You know I luv you all, well, at least most of you… X-:

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The other sin is the lumbering awful thing of one polka or slide after another, just like, "Let’s play through everything we know just to get it out of the way, then we can move on back to the reels!" That also spoils the form. I know we hate ‘rules’, but maybe it could at least be a shared agreement that 3 tunes in a set is enough, 4 being the limit…generally… If we gave polkas more consideration, including in that respect, not as throw-aways, maybe we’d start to appreciate them more? The other thing that batters polkas and slides to death is the love of speed, which usually isn’t steady or controlled but either fluctuating or ever increasing ~ ‘accelerando’ without any idea where things are going or how… 😛

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Yes, I agree ‘c’. My own polka and slide playing needs a lot of work. I find them much more difficult than reels. I find polkas easier than slides, the most difficult thing about them being the driving accent you get on the 2nd and 4th quavers in some parts of the tune. Slides I just find virtually impossible to get right whatever I do with them. As you know I’m trying to expose myself to more and more recordings, and I’m getting better, but it’s requiring a real concerted effort. I’m happy to give it a go though. A lot of people don’t seem to bother.

I agree with what you’ve said about long strings of polkas played in sessions as well. That’s why I quite like the idea of polka "sets". I’ve heard the Newmarket set and the Johnny O’Leary’s set regularly at recent sessions, and I think if there’s some degree of predictability as regards sets, then people are a bit less likely to go crazy and play 20 of them all in a row. It’s a bit more controlled? or something? Generally I would be much more against the idea of "sets" like this for jigs and reels, but for slides and especially polkas, I think there’s a place for it.

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Hell, this is bad. I find myself totally agreeing with Dow here (except the sets idea for jigs and reels). I find playing polkas very difficult…or at least doing them justice, with a Sliabh Luachra "accent" - even just my half-baked version of it.

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I did say "generally". Some jigs and reels I prefer to play in sets, just because they don’t go in my head any other way, like the 2 Crowley’s reels, for example. But most of the time I just like to pick a follow-up tune on the fly for 2 reasons: 1) it makes for a more edgy and unpredictable session, and 2) there are so many jigs and reels to choose from in the repertoire that it’s pretty easy to do it this way.

I’m sorry you find yourself agreeing with me, Danny. I know how painful it must be for you. I’ve heard that breathing water can help with pain and stress as the feeling of water rushing into your lungs has a calming effect. Try it. Dunk your head under water and force yourself to breathe the water in to your lungs. If you do it non-stop for a few minutes it works, honest!

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I believe you Dow. Well, I would if you set an example and showed me how to do it properly. I’ll be sure to read about it in the obituary column of the Sydney Daily Star. I’d send you flowers but aren’t you allergic to them?……