Celtic Guerrillas Vancouver
Inspired by COMMANDO TRAD of Montreal, we thought we’d give it a try.
Inspired by COMMANDO TRAD of Montreal, we thought we’d give it a try.
Great! Wish I could’ve been a part of something like that
Good for you !! Fun, eh 🙂
HALLELUJAH!!! ~ GOOD ON YUH! How I wish I could have been there… Keep up the good works…
I LOVE IT!!!
You’ll have to build up a pentatonic set, for when distance delays the response. 😀
Your link has just been sent to a dozen others… 😉
Come on, Glasgow musicians. Lets get it together.
Did I say a dozen, well, in my excitement for riot it was ‘considerably’ more, including you dear Silver… 😛
COME ON GLASGOW!!! GIVE IT SHTICK!!!
1.) COMMANDO TRAD Mission 1 Métro Papineau
2.) COMMANDO TRAD Mission 2 Métro Lionel-Groulx
3.) Commando Trad Mission 3 Commando National
4.) COMMANDO TRAD Mission 4: UQAM
Lovely stuff and thanks - but unfortunately I’m not comfortable withe allusions to the military. Sorry to be a killjoy but I’ve just read this:
But Danny, private armies are used to keep the protetariat masses in check, while guerilla tactics are used by the proletariat masses to rise up against authorities. I understand you disliking the use of militaristic images, but your analogy doesn’t fit the situation.
"A specter is haunting the musical world…"
"All power to the traddies!"
Yeah Al, I know what you’re saying. Just the whole military metaphor. Probably just me being an ol’ grump.
Anyway it enabled me to link to the private army webpage 🙂
And yes I know there are lots here who don’t like me or anyone else preaching about anything vaguely political, and want this site kept purely for trad music. Good for them if they want to be cuccooned away from the real world in their little trad bubble.
trad’s got plenty of politics in my observation anyway. Seems to be all one way though. Makes for an irritating dichotomy. Love the music, hate the politics. Lucky you can hear that the music comes from a time way before that.
Before politics? That must have been when Adam still had all his ribs🙂
No, it was before the socialists wanted to appropriate folk stuff.
What’s the problem with the army analogy? We, the Commando Trad or them, the Celtic Guerillas are the most peaceful guerilleros on earth!
Anyways, it’s a true struggle keeping our culture alive ,especially in Quebec so , in that sense yeah, it’s an everyday’s fight!
From cucoons the lovely butterfly emerges, and then lays eggs for its wormy brood to eat holes in vegetation…
Yes gam, before Adam had all his ribs, and yet, there was dialogue between he an a greater power. Surely, once you have a superior and an underling you have the dreaded ‘P’, politics… 😛
Is it not good to use music as a weapon to open dialogue and raise smiles than other possibilities that would close a discussion and raise ire?
Ah ha, so ‘danny flute whistle box’ hails from Glasgow. Hey Danny, this isn’t your attempt at building up your reasons and excuses for being a killjoy who won’t support ‘The Silver Spear’ in the want to jolly bits of Glasgow? Maybe a name that hasn’t any possible military suggestions in it, either way? You could avoid uniforms and any confusion with ‘The Salvation Army’? 😏
well said, ceol, except that a time without superiors and underlings can be imagined, nay, was. To resurrect it through politics is just - well: boring.
…the Sallies have uniforms.
…looks like Danny has retreated into unrepetent squatting left-wing quietude.
A few of us once attended a ‘contra dance’ dressed in military attire as ‘Sandanistas’, guerrillas, though it was probably in poor taste, but we had a good laugh, if just between ourselves and in part in Spanish…
Oops! ~ Sandinista!
Make music, not war!
make community; not communism.
Oh, for the love of God. Oldstrings: next time we do this, let’s change our name to "The Happy Fun Cute Puppy and Pretty Rainbow Fun Celtic Group of Happiness and Fun", which I assume will be acceptable to everyone. (I briefly considered including some reference to peace and love, but I refuse to take responsibility for the VERY SERIOUS discussion on AIDS awareness that would inevitably follow.)
get a grip…
I thought it was great.
and, as we all know, meanings of words change over time. What about the term "guerrilla marketing?"
(yes, I know the word ORIGINATED from Spanish, meaning war…)
Keep it up, commandos!
They’ve got my vote! As far as I can tell here they’re the ones with fun running in their blood, unlike some of us, myself included, who can take things just too damned serious and literal. If I was living in Vancouver or Montreal I wouldn’t hesitate to support the craic…
Even ‘war’ has several connotations and serves different uses by context… And crap properly treated can make damned good compost…
And ~ I still don’t see anything left or right about this celebration. Changing connotations, I see EVERYTHING ‘right’ about this community sharing of music. Why keep our joy with it to ourselves, in dark corners of pubs at night? Let it out…
Back to my Bombay Potatoes before things start burning… 😉
If only all armies were equipped with fiddles, flutes, whistles and the like… But then again, they would probably find fault with the fretted instrument folks, or the free reed advocates, and clash with them. Sometimes I feel that mankind, with its warlike nature, is like the man in the story who has a hammer, and sees all problems as a nail.
But one of my causes for hope is when people gather to share songs and tunes, and because of that, whether they are called commandos, or gueriillas, or simply the local session, these various collections of musicians have my support!
And the wider world, which thinks that music is a commodity to be bought, sold and consumed, needs to be reminded that it is made by people just like them, and it is not just the listening, but the making, and sharing, of music that brings joy to people. 🙂
Cheers Al! 😉
Commando, from man-us, hand, and dare, to give. Literally ‘to put into one’s hand’. Quite appropriate, I think. Guerilla is diminutive of guerra, meaning ‘little war’, from the Old High German word for strife or confusion. Could be quite fitting also. Now what’s a bazooki again?
A "bazooki" is an instrument of musical destruction.
Hmmm. How about if we change the name to Celtic Gorillas?
In the aural tradition, it would seem the same, and the literary minded may not take it so literally. We would have to remove some allusions to aggression, of course; and talk more about trees and bananas. Those who identify as Celts may find it insulting, but they could be easily dealt with by…
And ceolachan, please try to curb your enthusiasm. It’s only music and fun and stuff.
What’s the problem with the army analogy?
Armies mean guns and bombs mean people get shot means mothers lose sons and daughters lose mothers lose fathers lose limbs and sanity and houses and the country’s economy stagnates and food becomes hard to find and you don’t know who is your friend anymore and it all gets a bit messy. And you might not be allowed to play fiddles or flutes or reels or hornpipes. Need I go on?
Without wishing to drone on much longer about it, Ceol mentioned Sandinistas - when I was in Nicaragua as a Brigadista during their civil war almost everyone I met had lost a member of their family, a limb, an eye, their mind, a house….never mind a few tunes. Almost everyone had an AK47, loaded. Yet they were positive about it. A few years later US pressure effectively forced people to vote the right wing back in, so what was the point in the civil war? Guess I’ll never know.
Gorillas in the Hood?
and of course if anyone should disagree with you, danny, they would be considered insensitive…
I still think it’s O.K. for them to call themselves whatever they want.
Nah. I don’t think I pass judgement on members here. Other than that I think many are very naive. But not on their inherent capacity for harbouring good or evil intent. In that respect my view is that trad musicians are no worse than the rest of humanity, possibly much better. However, as this is a board where *most* opinions thoughts and experiences are, or should be, freely aired, I have done just that. Freely aired my experiences from which my opinion on this subject derives. You are free to express yours, and I won’t consider you insensitive. I also think its OK for them to call themselves what they want, but I might not be happy with it, and, as they have obviously carefully and thoughtfully chosen this name knowing that might court controversy, will be able to weather persons like me expressing my view that it does not sit quite so hunky dory. I’m so glad they took the time to think it all through so carefully.
Come on danny, don’t be so 1st degree-down to earth. The army analogy is a joke! We’re all the contrary of what an army does and and I think most a of the people get that subtility in the choice of our name. By the way, our name was voted democratically before the first mission went online and everybody was free to suggest other names.
Hope you can open your mind to other degrees of interpretation of our name
And no, we didn’t choose that name to provoque, guess we’re too NAIVE as you say.
Yeah ok then. Truth be told I’m not really that bothered though I wouldn’t use the name myself. My position became entrenched (military metaphor!?) after some members started becoming condescending. Work away. I don’t really care. I was just arguing a point of view.
Meanwhile, let’s just applaud a few people who gathered to play a bit of music and lighten peoples’ lives.
Personally I am a card-carrying pacifist, but I will fight for the right for people to do anything to lighten our moods in these gloomy times.
So there !
Carry on, Sergeant…….
PS. Still no response from anyone willing to give a bit of CommandoTrad-type musical endeavour in London…….?
Not much response from Scottish musicians, either, Pete. :(
You get the ball rolling and I’ll be with you Pete. But see if you can think of a less military type of name for this endeavour 🙂
Maybe I’ll have to go down to London for it. LOL.
Come on Mr. McKay, use your imagination toward a less abrasive end ~ 😀 ~ Like titles for a similar group and aim in the London area. If would be good for you to raise smiles, your quota for frown making is in the red… Maybe something pulled out of the history of London would do? I can think of several, buy, hey, they’d likely not meet your approval. Besides, I’d be tempted to wind you up on purpose, which, just might ~ be an easy thing to do… 😉 It isn’t even Christmas and we’re able to pull out ‘Bah Humbugs’ out of our past-their-use-by-date mint collection…
I’d consider joining you too, if Silver does the trip…
Well, I’m in. 🙂
sigh…words words words…if you really want, you can find army analogies everywhere :
- drone : radio-controlled aircraft, used to spy enemies and/or drop all kind of malevolent stuff on the so-called enemies… or very important part of the music we love ?
- regulator : other name of the death squadrons, title of a Stephen King book, or part of a so beautiful musical instrument…
- marches : way of making the soldiers walk, or tunes we like to play…
I take the whole affair as a joke, a very nce one ! if only all attacks were of that kind, humanity would certainly fare better… but I can understand it can sometimes recall painful memories… but let’s take for it is, and not try to politise it !
Hey, come on guys. Danny wasn’t harsh, or insulting, he simply spoke his piece. We don’t all have to see the world the same way, and think the same way. Both sides of this argument have made good points. Time to agree to disagree and move on.
Al, I don’t know about the others, but I’m having my own fun with Mr. McKay, dear Danny boy. It might not come across, but when I typed the last bit, "Come on Mr. McKay ~ ", etc. ~ it was with the voice of the bad guy from the film "The Matrix". It’s hard to get that across in print…
I have other plans for Mr. McKay, who for some damned reason I consider a friend…
Morpheus: "If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then ‘real’ is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain ~" 😛
# Posted on June 20th 2010 by ceolachan
A beautifully inspiring video. Thanks for posting.
I think it’s also grand that the Montreal group includes dancers…
It sounds like Guernsey Pete is ready to put it together. If a few Londoners voiced their support, you might set him in motion.
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This one is Great:
I only saw it yesterday, and started working on the tune today.