5-Part Jigs ~ (& if you want to go higher, that’s OK too) :-D

5-Part Jigs ~ (& if you want to go higher, that’s OK too) :-D

OK you tune jockies out there let’s see if you can dig up anything else in the way of a 5-part jig other than:

"Doctor O’Neill’s Jig"
Submitted on January 7th 2003 by Mark Cordova.
https://thesession.org/tunes/1304

There is reason in my madness. But if you’re completely at a loss, then you can add something more monstrous by way of a multi-part jig ~ in EXCESS of 5 parts, and there’s a few out there. If it’s a favourite, tell us, and why, and why not also add where you first learned it, and from who.

In trying to pass on some of what has been shared with me I’ve found myself in a teaching situation, and sometimes the folks that are drawn in can be worse than clueless, as one who requested for his first tune to learn a certain 8-part jig ~ NOW! We had a talk, but this is what he wanted, and not slowly either. I told him I could help to eventually get him there but explained that such multi-part tunes are not really the norm. He didn’t have the patience and I wasn’t in it for the money. I sent him elsewhere, and he never did go very far, like so many skin bangers. :-D

As always, in things that can be driven by ego and testosterone, such problems, in my experience, tended to rise from the male side of our species… In dance too… :-/

Re: 5-Part Jigs ~ (& if you want to go higher, that’s OK too) :-D

Calleach an Dudain
Cherish the Ladies
Frieze Britches
Geese in the Bog
Gold Ring
King of the Pipers
Old Grey Goose
Shaggy Grey Buck
Strayaway Child

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The Kilfenora (No. 2)

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helvic head

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Pádraig O’Keeffe’s version of Páidín Ó Raifeartaigh has five parts. Connie O’Connell plays it on ‘Ceol Cill na Martra’.

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Tom Broderick’s (The Lark’s March) was taught to me as a three-part jig, but I’ve since learned that it is frequently played as a four-parter, and heard that it can even occasionally have a fifth part.

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There’s an epic tune in the Tunes of the Munster Pipers book that I believe is called ‘the Long Dance’. As memory serves, it takes up two whole pages.

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There’s also a 5-part version of Kitty’s Rambles out there.

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I play a fair number of these, many of which have already been mentioned. Dr. O’Neill’s, the Lark’s March, and Helvic Head are three of my favourite tunes.

Here are a few more (including a couple slip jigs) that haven’t yet gotten any mention.

Humours of Ballyloughlin.
Kid on the Mountain
O’Farrell’s Welcome to Limerick

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Missing from here and unable to find ~ "The Shaggy Grey Buck"

3-Parts

"Kitty’s Rambles" ~ 3-parts, has anyone the 5-part version???
https://thesession.org/tunes/1843

4-Parts

"Humours of Ballyloughlin"
https://thesession.org/tunes/210

5-Parts ~ & now we get down to business 8-)

"Cherish the Ladies"
https://thesession.org/tunes/590

"The Frieze Britches"
https://thesession.org/tunes/34

"The Gold Ring"
https://thesession.org/tunes/1371

"Helvic Head"
https://thesession.org/tunes/3110

"The Kilfenora Jig" (No. 2) / "The Chorus Jig"
https://thesession.org/tunes/949

"The King of the Pipers"
https://thesession.org/tunes/54/comments

"The Lark’s March" / "Geese in the Bog" / "Tom Broderick’s"
https://thesession.org/tunes/5867

"Páidín Ó Raifeartaigh"
https://thesession.org/tunes/741/comments

& 5-Part Slip Jigs

"Kid on the Mountain"
https://thesession.org/tunes/52

"The Kitten"
https://thesession.org/tunes/3143

"O’Farrell’s Welcome to Limerick" / "An Phis Fhliuch"
https://thesession.org/tunes/879

6-Parts

"The Strayaway Child"
https://thesession.org/tunes/134

"The Old Grey Goose"
https://thesession.org/tunes/241

"Calleach an Dudain" / "Old Woman Of The Milldust"
https://thesession.org/tunes/9365

"The Gold Ring"
https://thesession.org/tunes/37


?!? ~ 7 - 8 - 9 - part jigs ~ Yup, they are out there… ;-)

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The Willie Clancy version of the Gold Ring is 7 parts, not 6 (although I believe it’s only 6 here!). Likewise, O’Farrell’s original version of his welcome to limerick had 6 parts. Leo Rowsome’s version of the Frieze Britches had 7 parts as well, and I believe Gallagher’s, the Kerry version, has 6 or 7 parts.

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Gusty’s Frolics. There’s a newly uncovered cylinder recording of piper Patsy Touhey playing all the parts from the O’Neill’s setting. Forget how many it is, can’t count that high. ;) As I mentioned in another thread, plan is for the batch of cylinders this recording came from to be available on a CD in the next month or two.

Was that a discussion on Big reels? Didn’t check it out. I’ve a recording of Leitrim piper Michal Gallagher playing some reel with another handful of parts; some of it sounds like the Four Courts or Pinch of Snuff, but not entirely. Never memorized it, too much work.

There are other big jigs in books, Morgan Rattler in O’Neill’s for instance. Haven’t heard anyone play them yet myself.

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Morgan Rattler in O’Neill is a 10-parter. O’Neill has it in C, and I’m not sure why, unless it’s to give a special low-string emphasis to the low C in parts 6 and 9. We play it in D in our session (otherwise it would end up as a fiddle solo!) but we normally only play parts 1,2 and 10 of the O’Neill version, and there are slight differences in our part 2 to O’Neill’s part 2 anyway.
It’s a rousing tune, well worth playing.

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I’ve just found this monster in Sutherland’s while I was looking for the Shaggy Grey Buck. I don’t even know if it is a jig, as I’ve never heard of it before, but it looks, well, interesting…

X:0871
T:The Major
C:Suth.p87-8
S:Sutherland, ‘Music for the Bagpipe’
Z:Transcribed by Ross Anderson, www.ross-anderson.com
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:G
c|:BAG GBG|GBG ABc|BAG dBG|cAF ABc:|:B2d dBg|ece dBd|B2d dBd|efg ABc:|
|:BAG g3|BGB ABc|BAG g3/2f/e/d/|cAF ABc:|:BAG G2G|G2G ABc|BAG g3/2f/e/d/|cAF ABc:|
|:B2d dgf|efe ded|cdc Afe|f2A ABc:|:g2de2c|d2B ABc|gdf ece|fef ABc:|
|:BAG GgG|GgG ABc|BAG g3/2f/e/d/|cAF ABc:|:B2d def|gfg gfg|gfg gfg|f2A ABc:|
|:Bcd def|efg fed|Bcd def|e2A ABc:|:dBG dBG|dBG ABc|dBG dBG|cAF ABc:|
|:B2G GBG|BGB ABc|B2G GBG|cAF ABc:|:B2d dBg|dBg dBG|B2d dBd|fef ABc:|
|:B2d dBf|e/f/ge fdf|B2d dBf|ede ABc:|:BAG g2g|BAG g2g|BAG f2f|cAF ABc:|
|:gdB gdB|gdB ABc|gdB f/d/ef|cAF ABc:|:BAG GAG|GAG ABc|BAG GAG|cAF ABc:|
|:BAG d3|BAG g3|BAG f3|cAF ABc:|:BGd BGc|BGd BGc|BGd BGf|cAF ABc:|
|:BAG dBG|gdB dBG|BAG dBG|fAF ABc:|:d3d3|d3ABc|d3e3|f3ABc:|
|:d2dg2g|f3e3|d3c3|f2A ABc:|:d2dg2g|f2fe2e|d2dc2c|f2A ABc:|

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James And The Giant Peach

Ceolachan, you yourself submitted this 13-part mutant leviathan five years ago! https://thesession.org/tunes/4605

Ha ha ha haa! You thought it wouldn’t come back to haunt you, eh??

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Shaggy Grey Buck:
X:1
T:The Shaggy Grey Buck
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:jig
K:Ador
e|g2d BdB|GGG B2e|g2d BdB|AAA B2e|g2d BdB|g2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2e|
|g2d BdB|GGG B2e|g2e dBd|AAA B2e|g2e dBd|g2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2g||
||GBG GBG|GGG B2g|GBG GBG|AAA B2g|GBG GBG|Bge dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2g|
|GBG GBG|GGG B2g|GBG dBG|AAA B2g|GBG GBG|Bge dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2e||
|:d2B d2e|GGG B2e|d2B d2e|AAA B2e|d2B d2e|d2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2e:|
|:B2g f2e|d2G B2e|B2g f2e|AAA B2e|B2g f2e|g2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2e:|
|:dBB gdB|GGG B2e|dBB gdB|AAA B2e|dBB gdB|g2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2g:|
|:dGd dBd|GGG B2g|dGd dBd|AAA B2g|dGd dBd|dGd dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2e:|

I’m not sure about the key: it’s a bit weird, but it’s a GHB tune. This is from Willie Ross Book 1.

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The good Doctor O’Neill’s is one of the finest of all tunes!

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A lot of 18th and early 19th century Scottish tunebooks contain variations on simple tunes - "Paddy O’Rafferty’ was a popular one. (If I remember right, O’Farrell did that too). It isn’t very clear what the dividing line between a variation set and a multi-part tune is.

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Fair comment Jack, especially where pipers are concerned…

You’re all great and I’m having a lovely smile fest here, including with my own sins coming back to haunt me courtesy of Joe…

I’ve only just arrived back after a good double espresso, but my immediate expectation is that "The Major" might be a march, but I’ll have to give it a go and see where it takes me. And thanks to gam for "The Shaggy Grey Buck". Isn’t there a composer for that one? ~ another Pipe Major’s fancy?

Hounddog ~ I immediately suspected a flat set of pipes, C, when I saw "Morgan Rattler" in O’Neill’s, but I haven’t that part of the library on hand here to check and see if the source for it is given anywhere. Maybe someone else can let us know?

Thanks all, much appreciated, with respect…

“Morgan Rattler” ~ 10 parts

Henrick Norbeck’s transcription of Morgan Rattler (1046) from O’Neill’s 1850
Key signature: Cmajor
Submitted on April 16th 2004 by Aidan Crossey.
https://thesession.org/tunes/2831

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Morgan Rattler is very effective on the G/D box (endemic in the session I referred to), so it’s got to be in D. Perhaps the punchiness of the G/D is more suitable for this tune than the B/C?

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Nelson Mandela’s Welcome to the City of Glasgow

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6-Parts

"Nelson Mandela’s Welcome to the City of Glasgow"
https://thesession.org/tunes/3156

Thanks Richard…

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I just looked again to see if there was a composer’s name for the Shaggy Grey Buck, as Willie Ross always credits them when the names are known; but there is no name here. However, when I turned the page, I found some more!
|:g2e g2a|GGG B2e|g2e g2a|AAA B2e|g2e g2a|g2e dBG|eee gdB|1AAA B2e:|2AAA B2g
|:G2B G2B|GGG B2g|G2B G2B|AAA B2g|G2B G2B|g2e dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2g:|
|:GGG GGG|GGG B2g|GGG GGG|AAA B2g|GGG GGG|Bge dBG|eee gdB|AAA B2g:|
|:GGG BBB|GGG B2g|GGG BBB|AAA B2g|GGG BBB|GGG BAG|eee gdB|AAA B2e:|

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10-Part Jig - WHEW!!! Another… :-D

X: 1
T: Shaggy Grey Buck, The
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: GMaj
e |\
g2 d BdB | GGG B2 e | g2 d BdB | AAA B2 e |
g2 d BdB |g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 e |
g2 d BdB | GGG B2 e | g2 e dBd | AAA B2 e |
g2 e dBd | g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 ||
g |\
GBG GBG | GGG B2 g | GBG GBG | AAA B2 g |
GBG GBG | Bge dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 |
GBG GBG | GGG B2 g | GBG dBG | AAA B2 g |
GBG GBG | Bge dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 ||
|: e |\
d2 B d2 e | GGG B2 e | d2 B d2 e | AAA B2 e |
d2 B d2 e | d2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: e |\
B2 g f2 e | d2 G B2 e | B2 g f2 e | AAA B2 e |
B2 g f2 e | g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: e |\
dBB gdB | GGG B2 e | dBB gdB | AAA B2 e |
dBB gdB | g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: g |\
dGd dBd | GGG B2 g | dGd dBd | AAA B2 g |
dGd dBd | dGd dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: e |\
g2 e g2 a | GGG B2 e | g2 e g2 a | AAA B2 e |
g2 e g2 a | g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: g |\
G2 B G2 B | GGG B2 g | G2 B G2 B | AAA B2 g |
G2 B G2 B | g2 e dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: g |\
GGG GGG | GGG B2 g | GGG GGG | AAA B2 g |
GGG GGG | Bge dBG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|
|: g |\
GGG BBB | GGG B2 g | GGG BBB | AAA B2 g |
GGG BBB | GGG BAG | eee gdB | AAA B2 :|

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Cool EastPole, and one I definitely wasn’t familiar with…

Oops! I take that back. It’s on the Altan album "Blue Idol"… I’ll have to give that a spin tonight to wake up my sleeping brain cells… :-/ ~ ;-)

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And it’s a great choice of an album to finish a weekend with - I’ve learnt to play that tune while waiting for my sister on a parking lot. Either I’m incredibly talented, or she wasn’t in a hurry at all.

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Okay, so it only has 4 parts. I don’t do arithmetic.

But I do know I’ve seen a 5-parter. I’ll keep hunting….

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Thanks Marc… :-)

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What is the sequence of parts [A though E] for "Cherish the Ladies" (or the proper sequence for any 5-parter)? Can’t find this simple answer anywhere online.