Why do you love ITM?

Why do you love ITM?

Is it because of the melodies?
Is it because of the tradition?
Is it because of the sessions? (e.g. the people you meet there)
Is it because of the stories behind the tunes?
Is it because of the love to your instrument?
Is it because of your personal history? (e. g. you werebrought up with it)
Is it because of your love to Ireland (e. g. you are Irish and proud to be; your ancestors were Irish or do you simply like the country?)
etc…

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Its cos I get off on playin tunes with other people, and hearing new tunes that grab me other people are playin, and that compulsion to learn them too.

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Blimey Greg! Have you lost a piece down the back of the sofa?

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We should have some tunes again sometime, Jamie. It’s been bloody ages.

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It’s because I get free drink for playing the stuff.

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Indeed we should, but what with the sprog, a PhD, a house to renovate and a wife to look after, I don’t get away much from Dundee these days! I’m planning to try to make Girvan next year though… …otherwise it’ll have to be in a Dundee session!

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When did you start a PhD? Good on you. Beats a real job. ;)

Aye, should be at Girvan next year. D and I have had conversations about possibly dropping in on the Dundee sesh over the winter.

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Coz I do!

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I love ITM Because - It lift’s me - But
It brought me from being just a Prod in Ulster,
{ Yes I was once one of those Bonefire Boy’s }

ITM and going down south And there was’nt an IRA
man behind every bush - lol.. I realised those Guy’s
where the same as us up North - Totally mad and loved Music…
I Got to meet many New friend’s who I cherrish and love
still to this day. Later in Holland and Poland, I Realised
those Guy’s where just the same about this music as I,, and
my mate’s now down South…

So if you want to Broaden your Music , and Heart to people !
Pick ITM ….

jim,,,

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Well, I don’t really know. I got run over by a truck 3 years ago, and when I was there laying in the weeds on the side of the road I just remember being with all these people, some I recognized, some I didn’t. My great grandma taught violin when she first came to America. I think she taught me to play when I was over on the other side.

You see, had I died that day, what I would have regretted most was all the time I spent watching TV. So the music was God’s gift to me when I got a second chance. I went back to the Church, too, I mean, wouldn’t you?

The irony is that this happened the spring after my grandma died. She would have really loved to hear me play this music in particular. She always liked when I played old swing tunes from the 40s. I think she hears me now, and playing makes me feel closer to all the family that are waiting for me on the other side.

so I just play

don’t really know why

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Sorry to hear you got run over, Nate. Great that you’re back. And great that you found two things that mean so much to you. (You probably found many more, I bet, but you haven’t mentioned them here.)

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"I love ITM Because - It lift’s me"

I expect it gives you a whole new apostrophe in life, eh Jim?

:-D

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Because it fun and I meet great folks
and guitarists

er …. and trolls


er and met tooty of course ;-)

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that’s a nice thought, ethical, thanks

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In my case, the melodies. The poignant, catchy tunes. That quality to astound, like some sudden tremendous sunburst through rainclouds. This isn’t b-s: that’s what hooked me. And of course this goes for songs and slow airs as well.

I immediately associated them not with people or communities, but with the upland landscapes of West Durham (UK) where I spent a lot of my childhood. The tunes just went in my mind with the hills, streams, colours, weather etc. of the places I knew, and with their fluctuations under the weather between entrancing beauty, indescribable mournfulness and gentle or monotonous staidness, with everything else in between. I’ve been drawing and painting these places - not enough - and the trad experience is linked to this, though I’d be hard put to spell out how.

But my reservation about trad is this - at its best, it’s like a *really* good Irish coffee - one of mankind’s most delightful inventions. But I can’t live off Irish coffee alone. It’s a hit, it’s a head-rush, but I need something by way of protein and greens and roughage as well. So these days, I listen to Radio 3 far more than I listen to trad, outside of sessions that is.

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i <3 ITM because of allthe awsum people at folkworks summer schools. And because its happy music! :)

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I like it because its got pathos in it.

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Has it? Has it got Athos and Aramis as well?

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I enjoy playing the music, but I can only get to my session during the summer. I have orchestra rehearsals the rest of the year, so my contact with the music is right here on the Discussion pages, which I look forward to reading every day.

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@ethical

Yup, not all of it. The tunes and players I like show pathos. The same way the singing of Sandy Denny or Niabh Parsons has pathos over say Kate Rusby who comes across with sugar sweet superficiality. Its difficult to explain what I mean, as its mostly something I feel.

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Funny you talk about those names in that way. Interesting that I would entirely agree with you on all of them, by the sound of it. I’d add, though, that the quality I like in the first two of those is something I’d call ‘grit’ rather than ‘pathos’. I’m not disagreeing with you, Jamie, just wondering, with those people in particular, whether there isn’t that added quality as well …

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I’d say Frankie Gavin has grit and no pathos in his playing.

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For me it’s because of all the hot women that hang around trad musicians. I get more action than I ever did playing rock and roll.

Does your wife know ? If she’s from Belfast she may have a view

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If I had been even remotely serious I probably wouldn’t be alive to have made that post ;-)

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Because it suits the bodhrán so well.

Thought so.
Lets stick with that story ;-)

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whoops cross post with GC

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Nicholas—

I’m with you on the Irish coffee—near-perfect drink, which becomes perfect when nicotine is added.

As for Irish trad, yeah, sometimes it’s got pathos. Though it’s hard to say what’s more poignant: certain trad melodies, or the lives of the quirkistas playing the melodies.

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The more I love it, the more it loves me back. Not many things in this world will do such a thing - the exception being dogs and Guinness, perhaps…

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JNE, our female mixed breed dog still loves me although I refuse to share my beer with her.

Laurence

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ethical blend

<I expect it gives you a whole new apostrophe in life, eh Jim?>

It did once when It helped me through a bad bout of clinical depression…

jim,,,

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Herself’s St. Bernard still loves me and eats when I play reels and jigs.

He hates waltzes

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Zippydw — Very Good One — lol.

Not even this one - jim : )

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M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: waltz
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Zippy - I hope you’re playing short sets! I can get quite expensive feeding a big dog like that :-O

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I love it because it’s so easy! There are hundreds of tune books and midi files and the tune section on this site and I just can’t resist all that delicious counterpoint everywhere. In fact, four of us at our session are working on several tunes in which we all play the counterpoint…but not the tune!! Clever, eh!Any kind of percussion is just music to my ears, and just think of all that opportunity to practise sclaes, arpeggios and rhythm, with a metronome of course, for at least two yeaers or more before you’re even allowed to play a single tune!

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What first hooked me on this music was hearing and seeing two older men sitting on a stoop in Galway playing tunes on accordion and pipes. I was 5 years old, and the sound made a lasting impression.

Then as a teenager I started listening to Mick Moloney’s Irish music radio program on WXPN out of Philadelphia. The first time he played a track featuring Tommy Peoples, I about fell down. Went out the next day and bought a $25 pawn shop fiddle.

So I can think of a lot of specific reasons I love this music—its pulse, its tightly packed melodies, etc.—and many of the people who play it—the craic, the stories, the generosity of spirit most people bring to it. But in the end it boils down to the fact that this music simply goes right to my core and I can’t stop listening to and playing it.

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It is the only music where you can avoid harmonicas!!!!!

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Yes, the advantages of ITM to a player:

It’s easier than Country and Western.

You can play all the tunes on a whistle costing less than a fiver.

You don’t have to be good-looking or to like people.

You don’t have to sing or entertain or be friendly.

It clears people out of pub seats you want to occupy.

You can annoy people with it if you really need to.

You can annoy people with it in any case.

Dress sense doesn’t come near it. You can wear whatever comfortable sweater you last pulled out of a ditch.

You don’t need sophisticated drugs to energise extended periods of playing.

This is because trad happens in codgers’ pubs that close early.

Someone might buy you a drink.

If you busk, people will feel sorry for you. They might even give you money.

You will learn tunes with curious names and become an expert on curious musicians you have never heard or met. This will make you a member of an in-crowd.

Zillions of other people do this, of course, but they’re just, well, washing around in the consumerist commercialised sea of music that is outside the gates of trad, and so they don’t count and one can feel superior.

So, you see, trad is good for self-esteem.

I’ll stop till I think of any more…

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nate ryan . I read your post earlier today and i cant stop thinking about it. Every now and then you read something that you remember forever and your early post is definitely one of those.

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I must say, I always find it quite humbling when I hear people say "this music is so easy to play." I used to play country and western music 3-4 nights a week as a paying gig. I played in wedding bands, pop bands etc. Performed in front of large crowds etc. And I found all those experiences FAR EASIER than just playing a simple reel three times through with F’ing up at least once - on a Sleepy Sunday, in a pub surrounded by friends. I’ve been playing in sessions for close to 11 years now, and it still takes every ounce of my brain power to play a tune well with others - ears alert for changes and variations, aware of dynamics, flowing naturally from tune to tune.

Hell I could play a 4 hour set singing and playing country tunes - drunk, hitting on waitresses, and half asleep from already working 8 hours at a day job and never miss a beat. Playing Irish music well challenges me more than any other genre I’ve ever tried.

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This music is not at all easy for me. I just started getting back into practicising and trying to improve again and I feel like I’m starting from scratch all over again, except that I remember the basic melody, that’s it. My rhythm, coordination, timing, is all off and I have to do some serious work to get it back.

I love this music, but it’s so frustrating because don’t have the time to dedicate to it as I would like, and making it to a session is challenging.

Ah well, moan moan moan.

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Jimmy B - How’z yer boy Declan doing? Will you be out to a session again soon?

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We’ll see. One of these days I’ve got to get this Orpheum banjo properly set up. It’s not as bright as I would like it, and the bridge just doesn’t seem quite right for ITM. It’s a gorgeous instrument with great potential, however. I just am not terribly adept at set up.

I’ve toyed with the idea of starting a home session, as that might fit in with my life better, but, of course, that can never fly until I get out to the sessions and get involved.

I will certainly keep you posted, sir.

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Oh, and Declan is doing well. 4 months now, healthy, and one of the most social babies I’ve ever seen. Miles, my oldest, is definately the more aloof one.

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I like how the music bridges culture and language gaps. I spent some time in Quebec a few years ago and, though I spoke very little French, I participated in a weekly session and got to know some of the locals - the highlight of my trip.

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Sessions in pubs that close early? My liver disagrees.

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Life is for the Liver.

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Jimmy

Have you started Declan on a respectable insturment yet….say box or pipes ;-)

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Er…when I said ITM was easier than Country and Western, it was a wind-up!

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Yes Nichols - well played. ;-) I suspected as much, but your comment got me thinking to all the times I’ve heard people say "playing tunes is easy."

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zippy -

box or pipes are certainly respectable. If they’re interested in this music, I might try steering them toward fiddle, however. We’ll see.

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Gosh, I wish to apologise for my last post. The grammar, punctuation and spelling were all abysmal. I had to hurry as I was off to the pub for a few tunes (it was going to be one of our regular midi-swap nights), and I was struggling because I couldn’t find my bloody music stand, reading glasses and £39.99 Yamaha keyboard. I promise to never do it again, nor to pointlessly split infinitives.

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it was like an archetypal/atavistic tripwire in me, waiting to be activated, and once it was, that was it…..i will say that i tend to have that reaction to most genres of music featuring modal-minor harmonics and a single-melody-line as opposed to contrapuntal structure, from pakistan/india straight on west through eastern europe, the modal scandinavian stuff, celtic genres, to appalachia. my ethnicity is indeed irish and swedish, but i’m not sure how much that had to do with it. i was not raised with any of this type of music, just went wild over it everywhere i encountered it…..

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I am not completely sure why I like both listening to and playing this music but I still enjoy playing it at the local sessions despite the fact that I have been playing it for more years than is good for anybody.

Laurence

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I don’t really love ITM. I just really like playing good music, having fun, drinking a few beers, and meeting interesting people.

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You have a point there, ViaMike. If it were Scots pubs rather than Irish that were so common around here up in the NE of the USA, my whole repetoire might be different! ;-)

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I can’t explain why, but I do. Actually I can, I have a friend…it’s all his fault.

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Because it is played to a vast extent by pretty women with long dark hair and eyes like cats.

But to a vast extent, they play it in places where I am not.

There may be a few who play it in places where I am, but my eyesight is deteriorating and I could probably only know for definite by peering at them and feeling them.

Being a natural coward and reluctant to be clawed or pinched to death, I have not done this.

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"Because it is played to a vast extent by pretty women with long dark hair and eyes like cats.

But to a vast extent, they play it in places where I am not.

There may be a few who play it in places where I am, but my eyesight is deteriorating (I know that feeling all too well. My eyesight has been deteriorating since I was a teenager) and I could probably only know for definite by peering at them and feeling them. (A dangerous course of action and one which I do not recommend)

Being a natural coward and reluctant to be clawed or pinched to death, I have not done this." (A wise decision Nicholas. In my case, what is furthermore, if my wife found out that I had done something this stupid, she would probably try to finish what the other woman had started)

Laurence

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Te hee!