A Cultural visit to Scotland for Bards :::::::

A Cultural visit to Scotland for Bards :::::::

A - Gordon Duncan
C - CD’s

Scottish Music
Below are resoures and personal notes, additional information can be found in theSession org web pages (see Discussion Tab titled ‘A Cultural visit to Scotland for Bards’ ) .

Please do not add comments/opinions - just helpful facts/information ONLY please.

A - Gordon Duncan
Gordon Duncan was an exceptional talentanted piper, with some haunting tunes to his name. Some allege that the Arts Council in Scotland would not support him, due to their bias, and could only find local work as a dustbin man until his unfortunate suicide, a short time ago. You will find his tunes (‘Cadal’ the sleeping tune, and Jack Broons 70th on you tube) haunting showing glimpses of his genius, a sad loss to Scotland.

For beginners - ’Session Tunes Book 1-4 [Scots Music Group, Dùn Èideann] - ScotsMusic org
Tunes by Gordon Duncan B000X5SU68
The Scottish Mandolin Tutor by Dagger Gordon [ScotlandsMusic]9781906804039
Ringing Strings by Tom Anderson [Shetland Times] 0900662409
The Scots Fiddle by J. Murray Neil [NWP]1903238684
Clarsach tunes/ music played by Wendy Stewart 1871931223
The Fiddle Music of the Scottish Highlands: Ceol Na Fidhle--Volumes 1 and 2: 1-2 (Ceol Na Fidhle Series) Christine Martin 1871931320 & 1871931088
Simon Mayor New Celtic Mandolin 095227762X ; ‘110 Scottish Tunes’ [Waltons] 1857201876
Play Scottish Accordion (Beginners) - Sandy Brechin - Learn to play Scottish Accordion
Nine entertaining in-depth video lessons with Scottish accordion master
The Cape Breton Collection of Scottish Melodies for the Violin consisting of Marches, Slow Airs, Strathspeys, Reels, Jigs, Hornpipes, etc. mostly … by G. F. MacQuarrie. Edited … by J. Beaton by Gordon F Macquarrie B0000CZBZP
Also, see bottom of the review for additional references.

C - CD’s
Mando -
The Frozen River by Dagger Gordon,
Springwell by Kevin McLeod B0000300K3

Fiddlers Rally by [Oban & Lorne Strathspey & Reel Society - Nutshell Music Oban]
Portrait of a Scottish Fiddler by Alasdair Fraser B000001UIA
The Silver Bow by Tom Anderson & Aly Bain
A Highland Fiddler with Donald Riddell
The Journey Home by Paul Anderson
New Celtic Mandolin by Simon Meyer B000024YA0

Purple Heather by Vincent Campbell (Donegal) B0040QX1DS
Jock Tamson’s Bairns, B00000240B
Martyn Bennett B0000009R2
Catriona MacDonald B00004S5VT
Deaf Shepherd B000002404
Walking Stones - A Celtic Sojourn with Ken Kolodner B000001QBQ
Celtic Dialogue by Laura Risk B00000I12V
Prince Edward Island Fiddling B0000003EF
The Heart of Cape Breton B00005Y1U0
Traditional Music from Cape Breton Island B00000AUPA
A Cape Breton Christmas with Ashley MacIsaac B000652NYA
Yours Truly with Natalie MacMaster B000ICLSQK
Isle of Skye - Ronan Martin’s fiddler B001MYIW94

Mark The Hard Earth Kris Drever B0031QDKLQ
Before the Ruin B001EINVNK - pop
Transatlantic Sessions - Series 1: Volume Two B002OC5WWS
‘The Northumberland Collection’ by Kathryn Tickell [Park Records 1998]
Beyond the Stacks - Aly Bain & Ale Moller B000TP5SL2
The Judique Flyer with Buddy MacMaster |B0000509I4 (Cape Breton)
Fit As a Fiddle - Natalie Macmaster B0000003EP

Lianas Lonely - Kevin Mcleod |B000CA9FQ8
Birlinn - by Rod Paul |B00001ZWJ4
Gary Peterson - Shetland

OTHER BARDS (Musicians)
Aly Bain, Cathal McConnell John & Phil Cunningham, Jock Broon, Norman Chalmers, Freddy Thompson,
Dougie McLean, Rod Patterson, Jack Evans, Derek Hoy & Peter McClements - fiddle players.
Kris Drever, Eilidh shaw, Sarah MacFadyen, Leo McCann, Katherine Nicol, Angus Grant Jr
angus grant fiddler - hills of windy gary
Peter Twoomey
Angus Chisholm Cape Breto
Phil Cunningham - box ‘Ross Memorial Hospital’
julie fowlas - scots gaidhlig sean nos
cd angus grant hills of wind gary

Also -
eadan o’rourke
angus grant snr
allen henderson
ian mcpharson
duncan chisum
Ross Cooper - west coast
Gillian Fleetwood and Fraya Thomsen Harpists (Clarsach)
Clarsach collection is Wendy Stewart’s
Ceol Na Fidhle (The Fiddle Music of The Scottish Highlands)
Taigh na Teud (Harpstring House)Highland Airs on clarsach with fiddle, voice and
Katherine McKai
Aengus Chisholm - Cape Breton
John Reill Paul McKenna Band


East Coast - Coda 12 Bank St, around the corner of Dean Broady’s pub, Royal Mile - Edinburgh


West Coast - Oban Music, 20 Argyle Sqr, PA34 4AT - www.ObanMusic.com

Dublin - Claddagh Reords - Temple Bar (opposite Central Bank) - www.claddaghRecords.com

Please follow ‘session etiquette’ or sessette when playing along. A reference is provided below.

Closet Player - (one who only plays in private, comes from the time when landladies in London forbad musical playing on their premises, the clothes in the wardrope dampened the sound)
Slow Session - (where beginners and nervous players are welcom - they usually have a senior player leading, and a fixed set of tunes, with ocassionally people doing a solo)
Open Session - (where anybody can join, but must keepup and NOT disturb or hijack the session)
Closed Session - (where a set group of musicians play and where you can ONLY join if asked to, usually only after an audition tune)

Dùn Èideann (also known by some as Edinburgh)
Slow sessions:
Sandy Bells 6.00 to 7.00 mondays - near Greyfriars Church & Bobby’s dog
Bennets bar, at the back, at 8.00pm Wed (all welcome with your instrument),- Crosstoll next to Kings theater

Open Sessions:
Sessions in Sandy Bells early pre 9.00pmn(near Graychurch on the Mound, note some may be closed),
Royal Oak upstairs
Antiquarian basement bar Stephens st - Thursday night - ( in Stockbridge - ’New Town south-west of Princes St).

faster open sessions Sandy Bells on a Monday night (other nights may be ‘Closed Sessions’)
bluegrass in the Tass bar on the Royal Mile on a Thursday night

For a guide to ‘SessEtte’ (‘Sessiun’ Etiquette) see ‘Field Guide to Irish Sessions’ by Barry Fox[Rinehart]ISBN:1568331940. Good luck and enjoy.

Closed Sessions:
Sandy Bells most nights
Royal Oak - downstairs (pay at the door)
The Shore Bar’ in Leith on a Wednesday.
The Malt Shovel’ on Cockburn street on a Thursday
‘The Antiquary’ - New Town on a Thursday
Gigs in Pleasance and Royal Oak
Captains bar
The Royal Scot, Newtown, Dùn Èideann (Edinburgh - Shetland Music - 1/2 Sundays evenings per month after 8.00pm)
Piping Center - Edinburgh

Glass Chu (Glasgow):-
Park Bar - Kelvingrove Park - West end,, 1202 Argyle St G3 8TE - T: 0141 339 1715
Islay Bar - Kelvingrove Park - West end
Kearneys - Argyle St - Sunday 8.00
Waxy O’Connors (next to Queen Street train station) Sundays 4.30 - 7.30pm

Clutha Vaults - nice spot on the the river
Scothia Bar - nearby

Check events at the tourist information, south of Queen (Mary) train station, on the south side of the square.
Most itmes of interest will be around the Tollgate tower, St. Mungo’s on the High St and the West end towards the university and Park & Islay bars.


The Scottish Music Group - 58 Shandwick Place - Dùn Èideann EH2 4RT
The Scottish Folk Group - top Floor, 31 Meadowbank Crescent, Dùn Èideann,EH8 7AJ
Feis Nam Gael - www.feisean.org/


www.theSession org

USA & North American Network:-
Dept of Appalachian Studies (Scottish and Irish Studies) - ETSU
Box 70556 - Johnson City TN 37 614 - 17 07


Workshops and 121s with Nigel Gather
(the Great grandfather of trad on the East Coast - I can personally recommend him, if you can take the sardonic humour)

www.scotsMusic.org Ros@scotsMusic.org Admin@
Scots Music Group, St George’s West 58 Shandwick Place Edinburgh EH2 4RT
email: info@scotsmusic.org tel: 0131 555 7668
Classes on the 2nd floor of Benmor High school, Dalry, Edinburgh

GFW The Glasgow Fiddle Workshop.
Email: gfwadmin@fiddleworkshop.force9.co.uk

Mandolin for Improvers
Venue: Glasgow Concert Hall


LGMA The Lanarkshire Guitar and Mandolin Association.
Email: secretary@mandolinscotland.org Phone 01698 457518.
EKAC The LGMA in partnership with the East Kilbride Arts Centre. Phone 01355 261000.
GFW The Glasgow Fiddle Workshop - Email: gfwadmin@fiddleworkshop.force9.co.uk

Celtic Connections
The Glasgow Royal Concert Hall
2 Sauchiehall Street Glasgow, G2 3NY


www.emgo.org.uk/diary.html - wkshops & sessions
East Mains United Reformed Church, 11 Old Coach Road, East Kilbride
Quakers Meeting house - 7 Victoria Trce EH1 - 2jl (front of Princes Park - off George4 rbridge)

www.theSession org

Feis Nam Gael - www.feisean.org/
Blas Festival (Gaelic Song, dance & Poetry)- 1st week of Sept
Visit Skye.co.uk & www.blas-festival.com

Classes held by:-
An Comann Gaidhealach
CNAG - Comunn na Gaidhlig
Sabhal Mor Ostaig (Gaelic College in Sky)
CLI - Comann Luchd Ionnsachaidh


Gaelic classes for Adults
www.cli.orgu - eM: cli@cli.org.uk & T: 01463 22 6710
www.ulPlan.co.uk T: 0845 557 63 22

sabhal mor ostaig steat - isle of sky
sabhal mor ostaig www.smo.uhi.ac.uk (week in gaelic, colmcille)

www.Colmcille.Net - Oideas Gael

CNES Comhairle nan Eilean Siar - Sgioba na Gàidhlig

CNAG & an Lochran
www.cnag.org.uk - cnag_glascu@hotmail.com

Cumman na Gaidllig
ionad gaidhlig ghlaschu aig pairc achadh a mhanse T: 0141 339 2022



Tapa Leat & Tapa Leibh (‘’Top of League’ - Thank you)
‘Se di Bheatha (only Welcome in english ’ Say do better’)
Tha (‘Ah ya’ - Yes)
Chan eil (No - ‘can el’ do)
Oidhche mhath (‘eh heh wide’ yawn - Good night)

Halò, Ciamar a tha thu/sibh (Hello)
Madain mhath (good morning)
Ta Bearla Agam Cuiteach (I have English as well)
Bulach Dona (naughy boy)
Nighean/Cailin Maith (good girl)

Gur math a thèid dhuibh uile (how is it going you all)

Scottish Gaelic in Twelve Weeks by Roibeard O Maolalaigh 1841586439
Colloquial Scottish Gaelic: The Complete Course for Beginners by Katie Graham, Katherine M. Spadaro B000Q36096

Also don’t forget YouTube & googleTube for free Gaelic classes:-
www.bbc.co.uk/learn gailic & bbc.co.uk/foghlam
im baile.co.uk


Gaelic services (all denominations made very welcome)
Sundays 12.30pm in Grayfriars Church, Dùn Èideann (Edinburgh) - remember Bobby’s Dog near the Royal Mile
Gaelic Salms sung as follows-
Salm Vol. 1 by Hebridean Choir ASIN: B0002LUAFW;


Alba in Parts
North of Antonine wall (Edinburgh to Glasgow) - The ‘Hebrides’
The ‘Central Belt’ (Edinburgh to Glasgow)
The ‘Borders’ (north of Hadrian’s wall)
East Coast - with Baltic and Scandinavian influence (Firth is from the same root as Fjord)
West Coast - here inlets are called “Inbhear” (inver) and sometimes ’Loch".
North of Hadrians wall is the ‘Border’ region was inhabitated by the ‘Rievers’. Mostly rustlers some very notorious such as the Armstrongs and Grahams, after a visit by them you were said to ‘be reived’.
Remember, while men may wear kilts, in Celtic societies it is the women who ‘wear the trousers’ !!.

1 - Good boots, bring waterproof, comfortable boots with you, that if needs be, you don’t mind leaving behind, give to a backpacker/musician. Scotland is harsh on footware (Glasgow is best for shoe shopping )
2 - Weather, plan around the weather, make use good days to visit the highlands, Iona/islands etc (see Rabbies.com). Keep wet days for cities, museums, ceilidhs and music.
3 Bus Pass - save the feet, Get 1 day/3/weekend Day Bus Pass - forget hiring a car in the cities. Edinburgh etc has good night bus service 7 nights a week. Check times though and keep coin change for the night bus.
4. Dùn Èideann - is a 3D city, save your feet, get a bus map and let the bus do the climbing uphill. It is easier to walk downhill.

Dùn Èideann (also known by some as Edinburgh) - is a city held together by bridges
http://www.budgetbackpackers.com - many others near the royal mile and Greyfriars church
www.VisitScotland.com/walking & B&B (suprise yourself tab)
B&Bs - on the Corstorphorine road from airport from the Zoo to Haymarket train station (airport bus 100 into town)


Dùn Èideann (Edinb) - places to visit
30 bus to Sheeps Head pub (the oldest in Scotland), Hollyrood pk and bus 44 back
river walk in Stockbridge, Bellls Brae
Queens Ferry, on the coast by bus (First buses - from near the south end of Princes st)
Cranmore, on the coast by bus (Lothian bus pass - from near the south end of Princes st) - Roman ruins and Forth birge
Linlithgow, west of Edinburgh by train (15 mins from Haymarket/Waverly train station)
Golf pub in the links park, Cross Toll, near Kings Theatre
Go to a Ceilidh - check out the various groups listed.
Underground Edinburgh or North Bridge Vaults

- www.visiFife.com - Also Balado, East Neuk of Fife, Pitlochry

Berwick - south east of Dùn Èideann- 1.5 hours by train well worth a visit.
(this interloper north of Hadrian’s wall is officially part of England, noticable by the ‘Papal banners’ - courtesy of their French Norman masters as witnessed in the Bayeaux tapestry 1066, now known as the George cross).

Oban - Westcoast: - North of the Antonine wall.
Worth renting a car from Glasgow (less than1 hour by train from Edinburgh) or try Rabbie Tours (www.Rabbies.com) or www.highlandexperience.com or get a Coach 3/5 day pass at the local Bus Station

Train from Edinburgh (+ 30 mins from Haymarket or Waverly to Glasgow) then train 3 hours to Oban. Stay overnight in Oban and return to Edinburgh the following evening.

Places to stay B&Bs in Bread Alban St or Albert Road on the north side of town.
Places to Eat ‘Ee Usc’ (Iasc or fish) on North Pier and Lorne Bar, Stevenson st.
Check out any ‘Fiddlers Rally’ during your stay also a ceilidh in Skipinnish

Places to See , Iona, Loch Lomand - West shore - a taste of the Highlands, just outside Glass chu)
Iona (Celtic Christianity) - you will need to stay overnight in or near Oban for an early start the next day, but can get back to Glasgow by train the following evening -
www.Iona.org.uk - ionaComm@iona.org.uk
Savoy House, 140 Sauchiehall st, Glass chu G2 3DH - T: 0141 332 6343

Whithorn & Ninian - www.visitDumFriesAndGalloway.co.uk & www.whithornPrioryMuseum.gov.uk,

www.highlandexperience.com - Ullapool and Sullivan area

Hebridean Celtic Festival - Leodhas mid July
Blas Festival (Gaelic Song, dance & Poetry)- 1st week of Sept
Visit Skye.co.uk & www.blas-festival.com

Ullapool, Ross-Shire - 2nd week of Sept

Glasgow World Piping Championships- Mid August

Inverness World Piping

www.edfringe.com - mid August to begin of Sept
edinburghJazzFestival.com - end of Jyly
www.edinTattoo.co.uk - August

Historically Scotland has had far reaching influences and contact. One of the first recorded was an exchange of knowledge took place between the Celtic Druid Abaris (Isle of Skye) and Pythagoras in Athens (Toland & Himerius).
There were nearby Celtic settlements in mid Anatolia (witness Galatians 3:11 in the original Greek version).
Pythagoras helped develop one of the first ‘Knowledge Economies’ (530BC), after journeys to the Magi in Babylon and the Brahmans of India. He then invited Abaris to Athens - see History of the Druids by John Toland 0766192849; History of Western Philosophy’ by Bertrand Russell.

The first ‘pacification’ of Highland culture was piloted by the Stuarts in the islands of Leodhas (Lewis) agus na Harraidh (Harris) in approx 1605. When the prize of Union with the English throne came the Stuart Jacobite flag (the early ‘Union Jack’) was designed.
This is the start of the plantations of Scotland and Ulster under the Stuarts.
After the battle of Culloden in 1746, there were large scale clearances and ethnic cleansing with the lands which were then given to pro London gentry. Thus you will not get much music north of the Antonine wall - due to these clearances, and a consequence Scottish tradions being frowened upon and many clans emigrating abroad, noticably Nova Scotia.The resultant wild remoteness of the Highlands is very ‘recent’, with the counterpoint of overdeveloped ‘Reservation style’ tenement housing in the Central Belt’.
The ‘latifundistas’ owning the large estates do not value much anything other than deer hunting and pheasant shoots.
The widespread emigration of the diaspora resulted in the rush of publications in the 17th century listed below.

The social turmoil continued as witnessed by the trial of leading figures such as Thomas Muir, Rev Thomas Fyshe Palmer (Unitarian) and the youg Gerrald, Margarot and William Skirving. See the monument to these men on Calton Hill in Edinburgh.
Also Dick Gaughan’s song ‘Thomas Muir of Huntershill’ (in the album Gaughan Live! At the Trades Club) B004XTT348 & B003B72KPC.

Clearances and Historic references:
The Highland Clearances by John Prebble 0140028374
Culloden 1746, by John Prebble 0712668209
Edward Lhuyd in the Scottish Highlands 1699-1700 by J L Campbell and Derick Thomson 0198119291
Popular Tales of the West Highlands, Vol. 1 of 4: (Forgotten Books) by J. F. Campbell 1605061735
The Life of Thomas Muir: Who Was Tried for Sedition Before the High Court of Justiciary in Scotland, and Sentenced to Transportation for Fourte by Peter MacKenzie 1165086034
Old Reminiscences of Glasgow and the West of Scotland (Volume 1); Containing the Trial of Thomas Muir byPeter Mackenzie 0217263321
Rev. Thomas Fyshe Palmer, (1747 - 1802)’, by John Earnshaw, Australian Dictionary of Biography,
The Scottish Insurrection of 1820 0859765199
Chartism in Scotland bt W.Hamish Fraser 0850366666
Scottish Independence Movement: Declaration of Arbroath, ISBN 1157710182
The Bloody Covenant by Ronald Ireland 0752452584
The Scottish Enlightenment: The Scots’ Invention of the Modern World by arthur Herman 1841152765


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2beJky_KM - Buddy MacMaster


Shetland Tune List:

(most can be be heard on Youtube - use ‘scots music fiddle’ and the tune name in your search criteria)

Cadal - The Sleeping Tune - Gordan Duncan
Jock Broons 70th - Gordan Duncan
Baravan - Gorda Duncan

Twa Fiddles by the fiireside - Tom Anderson
The Auld Resting Chair - Tom Anderson
The Shingley Bern (Shetland)

The Eagles Whistle
Sounds of Mull/The Iona Boat
The Skoo of Skaery
Phil Cunningham
Neil Gordon’s Lament for his second wife / Niel Gow’s Lament for the Death of his 2nd Wife
The waves of the Danube
Ian Grant’s Strathspey
The Favourite Dram
Loch Lomand Waltz

The Wedding gift
Vincent Cambell’s Mazurka
Trip to Katmando
Broonies 70th - Phil Cunningham
Coyles fields house
My Lagan Love
Benechin’s Suprise by the Hillside
Fionn’s by Charlie McLore
Sean Salms - Na Fili
Fachair and Heiti’s Waltz
Ag Fagail Abhaile
Ag Fagail Lios Mor /Leaving Lios Mor
Ross Memorial Holpital
Scotland - Alexander Broadie
Midnight on the Water
Michael’s Mazurka
Barra Owen Reel / Barrow Reel
Robbie Thomas 90th
Robbie’s lesson (in Tathy’s)
Final Farewell to the Bens
Coyle Fields house
Boo baby lulaby - Holland - Cape Breton
Memory of father McD - Cape Breton

Under the water garden
Trip to Pakistan
From Barra to Victoria - Alberta morning at bonny doon
Three pearl wedding tunes - Geordie Uthique (Quebec river)
Old Friend - Stephenson of the tob
Christ Church Lament
Shetland Waltz
Shetland Times (Lerwick)
Da Bonnie Polka
Seven Sisters Polka
Margarets Waltz - Devon
Under the water garden
Jim Tweedies Sea legs (hornpipe)
Tam the Banjo
Miss Rowad Davies
Peter Clemens
Hills of windy gary - Angus Grant fiddler -


‘This is your brain on music’ by David Levkin
Whiskey by J. Murray 184442670x
Whiskey by Jackson 14053023448
Edinburgh Pub Walks - Bob Steel 9781852492748

Cochruinneacha Taoghta de Shaothair Nam Bard Gaeleach: A Choice Collection of the Works of the Highland Bards (1804) 1160989729
A Collection of Ancient and Modern Scottish Ballads, Tales, and Songs: With Explanatory Notes and Observations
John Gilchrist ( 1177834510
The Harp of Caledonia: A Collection of Songs, Ancient and Modern, Chiefly Scottish, with an Essay on Scottish Song Writers, Volume 2
CD Scottish Harp ‘Sugarcane’by Shine
Carolan by Donal O’Sullivan 9781900428712
‘The MacLean-Clephane Harp Music’ by Keith Sanger [West Highland and Island Historical Society Num XV - May 1981]082406948x
Irish and Highland Harp by R.B. Armstrong
The Petrie Collection (1790-1866)
John Struthers ( 1145372554
Ancient Scottish Melodies: From A Manuscript Of The Reign Of King James VI (1838)
William Dauney 1104024152
Scottish Melodies by George Thompson
Ancient Scottish Ballads
George Ritchie Kinloch ( 1115221116
‘The Gow Collection of Scottish Dance Music’ by Richard Carlin [Oak Pub 1998]
Scottish fiddle music in the 18th century by david johnson [edh 1997] 1841830836
The Scots Fiddle: Tunes, Tales and Traditions of the Western Highlands, Hebrides, Orkney and Shetland v. 3 by J.Murray Neil 1903238684
The Scottish Fiddle Music Index: The 18th and 19th Century Printed Collections by Charles Gore 1871512980
The Caledonian Muse. A Collection of … Scots Tunes … adapted for the Violin, German-Flute, Harpsichord & Piano-Forte: to which is prefixed An Essay on Scots Music (1790) B0000CTY25 & B0000CTY28
The Caledonian Repository of Music, adapted for the Bagpipes, being a Collection of Strathspeys, Reels, Jigs & Quicksteps … To which is prefixed … the principles of music, by W. Gunn by William Gunn B0000CWQJT
Ryan’s Mammoth Collection: 1050 Reels and Jigs, Hornpipes, Clogs, Walk-arounds, Essences, Strathspeys, Highland Flings and Contra Dances, with Figures, and How to Play Them by Patrick Sky0786603003
A Curious Collection of Scots Tunes, With Variations, for the Violin, with a Bass for the Violincello or Harpsichord by R. Bremner (1759) B0000CUGMV
A Collection of Scots Tunes. Some with Variations for a Violin Hautboy or German Flute. With a Bass for a Violincello or Harpsichord by William Macgibbon [N. Stewart (1795)] B0000CZA1R
A Collection of Old Scots Tunes, with the Bass for Violoncello or Harpsichord, etc by Francesco Barsanti [A. Baillie (1742)] B0000CSS0R
A Collection of the Choicest Scots Tunes Adapted for the Harpsicord or Spinnet and within the Compass of the Voice Violin or German Flute, etc by Adam Craig B0000CUO8U
A Collection of Favourite Scots Tunes with Variations for the Violin &c. and a Bass for the Violoncello & Harpsichord. By the Late Mr. C. McLean and other Eminent Masters [ N. Stewart (1770)] B0000CZBDE
A Collection of the Best Scots Tunes. Fited to the German Flute. With Several Divisions, & Variations, etc by A Munro B0000D093R
A Collection of Curious Scots Tunes for a Violin, German Flute or Harpsichord. (A Second Collection of Curious Scots Tunes for a Violin and German Flute with a Through Bass for the Harpsichord by James Oswald [C. and S. Thompson (1770)] B0000D0NAR; B0000D0NAT & B0000D0NAV
Ancient Scotish Melodies. A Selection from the Scotish Songs and Airs of the Skene Manuscript [edited by W. Dauney], arranged with Symphonies and Accompaniments by G. F. Graham and F. Dun by George Farquhar Graham [D’Almaine & Co (1839)] B0000CWK14
A Collection of the Newest and Best Reels or Country Dances. Adapted for the Violin or German Flute with a Bass for the Violincello or Harpsichord B0000D22F0
The Skye Collection of the Best Reels & Strathspeys Extant: Embracing Over Four Hundred Tunes Collected from All the Best Sources, Compiled & Arranged by Keith Nor Macdonald 1141797429
Kerr’s Collection of Reels & Strathspeys, Highland schottisches, country dances, jigs, hornpipes, by James Spiers Kerr B0000CY5J0
The White Heather Collection Of Reels, Strathspeys, Jigs & Hornpipes by Ian Powrie B003I7BW7C
The Balmoral Reel Book. A collection of the most admired reels, strathspeys, country dances, schottisches, jigs, quadrilles, hornpipes, polkas, etc. Arranged by J. Kenyon Lees. [P.F.] by John Kenyon Lees B0000CYQBM
Marr & Co’s Royal Collection Of Highland Airs Quicksteps, Strathspeys, Reels & Country Dances Arranged for the Pianoforte by Marr & Co B004800G2U
A Collection of Strathspey Reels& Country Dances, &c. With a bass for the violoncello or harpsichord by John Bowie B0000CTJDD
A Collection of Strathspeys, Reels, Jigs, &c for the piano forte, violin, and violoncello by John Burns B0000CTV2V
A Collection of Strathspeys, reels, hornpipes … arranged as medleys for the harp, Piano Forte … by W. Christie by William Christie B0000CUAX9
A Collection of Strathspey Reels with variations, waltzes, marches, Irish airs … and a new sonata for the Piano Forte, violin or German flute … by a young lady B0000CUGMJ
A Fourth Collection of Strathspeys, Reels &c. for the harp, piano forte, violin & violoncello, etc by Gow and Sons B0000CWJGL
A Collection of Strathspey Reels with a Bass for the Violoncello or Harpsichord. Containing the most approved old & the most fashionable new reels … favourite Irish airs. by Nathaniel Gow B0000CWJJ8
he Beauties of Niel Gow. Being a selection of the most favorite tunes from his first, second and third collections of strathspeys, reels & jigs, … of Niel and Nathaniel Gow signed: J. M’G.] B0000CWJKJ
A Collection of Strathspeys, Reels, Jigs, &c. for the Piano Forte, Violin & Violoncello by Donald Grant B0000CWKLP
A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels, &c. with a Bass for the Violoncello, or Harpsichord by Malcolm Macdonald B0000CZ8N7
A Collection of Strathspey Reels, with a Bass for the Violoncello or Harpsichord by Alexander Macglashan B0000CZA26
A Collection (second collection) of Strathspeys, Reels, Jigs … for the Harp, Pianoforte, Violin and Violoncello by Abraham Mackintosh B0000CZB9I
A Collection of Strathspey Reels with a bass for the violoncello or harpsichord. by William Marshall B0000CZHLZ
A Collection of Strathspey Reels & Country Dances &c. With a Bass for the Violoncello or Harpsichord, etc by Robert Petrie B0000D1K0P &B0000D1K0Q
by A Collection of Strathspeys, Reels & Jigs … Arranged for the piano forte, violin & violoncello by James Porteous James Porteous B0000D1QE9
A Second Collection of Strathspeys, Reels, Jiggs &c. With a bass for the violoncello, piano-forte, or harp, etc by John Pringle B0000D1T4L
A Collection of Strathspey Reels, &c. with a Bass for the Violoncello or Harpsichord, etc by William Shepherd B0000D374X
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The Highland Pipe and Scottish Society, 1750-1950 [by William Donaldson 1862320756
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Lots of work in that. And a lot of spelling and factual mistakes that can’t be easily fixed while it’s here. Can you put it on a site you can update? Blogger might be suitable.

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Asking not to have comments/opinions is basically begging for comments and opinions. A few, wee errors but not by any means a comprehensive list thereof:

1. Dùn Èideann (also known by some as Edinburgh):

Some? think if you asked for directions to “Dun Eideann,” you’d be advised to take the next flight to New Zealand.

2. The Gaelic for Glasgow isn’t “Glass Chu.”

3. "Clutha Vaults - nice spot on the the river
Scothia Bar - nearby" (spelled Scotia)
Park Bar

No sessions in any of these pubs, as far as I know.

4. “Check events at the tourist information, south of Queen (Mary) train station, on the south side of the square.”

I assume this is Queen Street Station. No such place as Queen Mary Station.

5. There is no place near Ullapool called “Sullivan.” Suilven, perhaps? It is a mountain in that area.

6. “im baile.co.uk.”

That would be am baile…lots of links to historical documents and that sort of thing.

7. “North of Antonine wall (Edinburgh to Glasgow) - The ‘Hebrides’” Um, just no. I recommend looking at a map. Google has many.

8. "The first ‘pacification’ of Highland culture was piloted by the Stuarts in the islands of Leodhas (Lewis) agus na Harraidh (Harris) in approx 1605. When the prize of Union with the English throne came the Stuart Jacobite flag (the early ‘Union Jack’) was designed.
This is the start of the plantations of Scotland and Ulster under the Stuarts.
After the battle of Culloden in 1746, there were large scale clearances and ethnic cleansing with the lands which were then given to pro London gentry. Thus you will not get much music north of the Antonine wall - due to these clearances, and a consequence Scottish tradions being frowened upon and many clans emigrating abroad, noticably Nova Scotia.The resultant wild remoteness of the Highlands is very ‘recent’, with the counterpoint of overdeveloped ‘Reservation style’ tenement housing in the Central Belt’.
The ‘latifundistas’ owning the large estates do not value much anything other than deer hunting and pheasant shoots.
The widespread emigration of the diaspora resulted in the rush of publications in the 17th century listed below."

Don’t know where to start with that one. I don’t have enough classical history to address the first half of your history section, but this bit is well off base.

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Perhaps you’d like to tell us a bit more about yourself in the “Member’s details” section, “Naoirse” ?
There are too many mistakes above to correct, but I will help you with the names of some of your favourite tunes.
“The Skoo of Skaery” is probably “Spootaskerry” by Ian Burns.
“Coyle’ Fields House” is “Coilsfield House”, composed by Nathaniel Gow.
“Fionn’s” was composed by Charlie McKerron.
“Barra Owen / Barrow reel” is most likely the “Barrowburn Reel” composed by Addie Harper.

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Naoise has a history of posting messages like this, whose contents are apparently gleaned from Google searches without any consideration as to the relevance of the information.

S/he is based in South America. Use of the term ‘latifundistas’ is the giveaway.

Here’s one of his/her previous threads: https://thesession.org/discussions/21380.

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"Workshops and 121s with Nigel Gather [Nigel Gatherer]
(the Great grandfather of trad on the East Coast - I can personally recommend him, if you can take the sardonic humour)"

I think this is meant as a compliment, if undeserved, so thanks Naoise. Without giving away more than he would wish (possibly), I can inform you that Naoise is an Irish male based in London.

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I would have described Nigel more as an “aimiable grump”

The post itself gives a new meaning to the term “Too Much Information” and the author’s views on the Edinburgh session scene make for depressing reading.
Of course, it’s never been the most welcoming of cities but being able to access a session depending on “who and what you know” isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Every session is different after all but I don’t believe, in my experience, that most of those mentioned are as “closed” as the poster indicates. He/she also omits to mention quite a few others which are most definitely “open”.
I’m puzzled as to how The Antiquary on a Thursday can be described as being both “open” and “closed”?

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If that’s the case, Nigel, then what planet is he beaming this post down from?

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Gordon Duncan most certainly was “an exceptional talentanted piper.”

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“If that’s the case, Nigel, then what planet is he beaming this post down from?”

🙂 To be to some degree a devil’s advocate, I’ll say that Naoise is enthusiastic, and probably only wished to share his enthusiasm. His post comes from the best of intentions.

Kenny - I have a copy of Ian Burns’s tunebook, where it’s spelt “Spootiskerry”.

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Note -
this is meant as a guide for visitors, not for connoisseurs who already ‘know it all’. And yes, I should have used a spell checker, my apols. Was not expecting the hostility of the pedantique and‘ Be grudgers’.
Yes some of it was obtained by google, others by listening and conversation. OK if you a know it all, but it takes time to get this information together.
My motivation was the time I wasted in the first few months of not having access to the information myself.
I would welcome ‘constructive’ suggestions and uselfull information from the ‘Be grudgers’, residing on earth but in an ivory tower ?

Kenny –
Tapadh leat as ocht na ceartachaidh. The names, can difficult to get correctly in the middle of a session, with various different options being given. I would welcome your and others lists.

Jack Campin -
More than happy to have it ammended and added to. It will be a resource that will be appreciated by ‘aliens’ ( i.e. outsiders) visiting Alba. Maybe when a bit information is at hand.

‘Silver spear’ -
If “The Gaelic for Glasgow isn’t ”Glass Chu." – , what is your it in your terms ?
Maybe I should inform CNAG (cnag_glascu@hotmail.com) that they got it wrong ?
see - www2.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/faclair/sbg/lorg.php?faclair=sbg&seorsa=Beurla&facal=glasgow&eis_saor=on&tairg=Lorg

For some ‘classical history’ look at ‘Scotland and the Ulster Plantations’: by Kelly and Young ISBN:1846820766

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Glass Chu is a noise you make when you sneeze, Glaschu is a city in Scotland.

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I am confused now. That’s not how it was spelt when it came from the mouth of Para Handy (if you see what I mean).

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I realise that you have the best of intentions but all this information hasn’t been requested here in the discussion forum.
While some of it may be useful to some of the the people here, to most of us it is just an overwhemingly amount of data.

While collating all this information and allowing it to be available is commendable, would it not be better to set up a separate site or blog? Then, by all means, come here and invite us to view the finished or on-going work.

As others have mentioned, there also needs to be a facility for updating, amending, and making corrections which is not possible in a thread here.

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The problem is that your information *isn’t* helpful to visitors when it is flat-out incorrect, i.e. your list of sessions in Glasgow or your suggestion that the “Hebrides” is the region “North of the Antonine Wall.” If you are going to pernickety about geography, say if you want to get to the right place, the Hebrides are the islands off the West Coast of Scotland, from Islay and Gigha on up. Also, telling people that dodgy council estates in the Central Belt are the direct result of the Highland Clearances is very much in the realm of completely making up facts.

You don’t need to have a PhD to figure most of this stuff out. You just need to be proficient in the use of Google. If you look up the Hebrides on Wikipedia, for instance, it even has a pretty map, with colours, of which islands they are.

By “classical” history I meant Ancient Greece and Rome. I think this may have been a wee bit before the Ulster Plantations.

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“Glass Chu is a noise you make when you sneeze, Glaschu is a city in Scotland.”

Nah…“Glass chu” is what Glaswegian glaziers use instead of chewing gum.

How strange that Naoise tries to verify the spelling of “Glass chu” by pointing to a dictionary spelling it “Glaschu”.

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P.S. If you fancy reading on the history of Scotland, and the Clearances in particular, try these books:

T.M. Devine, The Scottish Nation, 1700-2000, Penguin Books, New York (2000).

Michael Fry, Wild Scots: 400 Years of Highland History, John Murray, Edinburgh (2007)

Robert A. Dodgshon, From Chiefs to Landlords: Social and Economic Change in the Western Highlands and Islands c.1493-1820, Edinburgh University Press, Edinburgh, (1998)

Eric Richards, The Highland Clearances, Birlinn Ltd. Edinburgh, (2008)

Ewen A. Cameron. ‘Embracing the past : the Highlands in nineteenth century Scotland’. In Broun, Dauvit; Finlay, Richard J.; Lynch, Michael (ed.), Image and identity : the making and re-making of Scotland through the ages, John Donald, Edinburgh, (1998), 195-219.

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Oh God, I just noticed some comma inconsistency issues in those five weensie footnotes. :( Boatloads of fun awaits.

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“ Boatloads of fun awaits. ”

It depends on how good a sailor you are - Para Handy - now he was a good sailor. He could spell Glaschu forbye.

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Best of intentions aside, this is a woefully inaccurate collection of facts, half facts and imaginings. How is any reader who doesn’t know better to separate which is which ? So if this is intended to be informative it is worse than useless as any reader who doesn’t know better won’t know what’s accurate and will end up believing some of the nonsense is true.

Call me a begrudger if you like, but my advice to anyone who wants to learn a bit more about Scotland and her music is to come for a visit or find a more reliable source than some random self appointed internet “expert”.

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"Jack Campin -
More than happy to have it ammended and added to."

Unless you’re Jeremy it can’t be amended where it is - nobody will ever read the whole of a discussion thread fixing all your mistakes. Upload it to a site that can be updated.

“It will be a resource that will be appreciated by ‘aliens’ ( i.e. outsiders) visiting Alba.”

Outsiders might start by using the same name for the country that the locals do (which is “Scotland” in three of the five indigenous languages of the country, and in particular Scots and English, one of which almost everybody speaks).

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Never claimed to be an ‘expert’, could you please point me to where guides for visitors have been done by local ‘experts’ ?
Oops a typo (yes another and a thank you all for the proof reading and corrections)

North of the Antonine wall (north of Edinburgh to Glasgow) - The ‘Highlands’

My intention was not to infringe local sensitivities, silly me (well ok, just a bit of a tease).

Also there were some of those listed that require clarification, any suggestions welcome.
Jack - I did like your site quite informative -
www.campin.me.uk/ - it is a good resource to all

Favorite Tune List:
But in a constructive mode - what are your favorite ‘Scottish’ tunes or tunes played in ‘Scotland’ ?
It would be useful to have this list, either in this thread or another ?

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I apologise, you have amply demonstrated that you are not an expert.

An absence of guides for visitors “by local experts” would be better than misleading and factually incorrect guides by self appointed internet “non-experts”.

Incidentally it is not that you are not local that I object to, it is parts of what you have written.

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“could you please point me to where guides for visitors have been done by local ‘experts’ ?”

The Insight guidebook series is done that way. The Edinburgh one is very good - tells the visitor what they need to know without dumbing anything down or presenting the city as a theme park.

It really isn’t a problem that you’ve made a lot of booboos. You seem to be open enough to corrections - the problem is that the way this site works, you can’t apply them. You need to find somewhere more flexible to upload it to - there’s no shortage of them. You also need to decide what you’re doing that other Scottish/music pages aren’t.

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There’s loads of different guidebooks for Scotland, and everywhere else. I just had a quick glance at Amazon and it came up with guides for every possible interest, climbing guides, country walks, castles, stuff to do in the cities, guides advertising themselves as “insider” information, anything. But I’m doubting your proficiency at the basic internet search at this moment.

You’re still wrong regarding what is North of the Antonine Wall -- directly north of Edinburgh and Glasgow are Fife and Stirlingshire, which are not part of the Highlands. It’s not the matter of infringing “local sensitivies” that cheeses me off. It’s a matter of presenting facts which are flat-out wrong and showing a complete inability to do any kind of basic research.

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Obviously a nerve has been hit.
An East coast or an Edinburgers‘ kiss’

I will check out the ‘Insight Guides: Great Breaks Edinburgh ’
by Appa. See what they offer as information. Tapadh Leat

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We’ve a high bar, & a few hoops to jump, before just anyone is considered credible on this wiki-diddly-doodle page.

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When you have the power of Google at your fingertips, it is utterly ridiculous to get facts as wrong as you have. If you’re writing up a “guide” for people who have never been to a place and assuming the mantle of some sort of expertise you’d better have at least basic stuff right or be prepared for an epic slagging.

Even though you admit that you’re not an expert; writing such a thing has the implicit assumption you feel you are -- who the hell is going to look at a travel guide written by someone who advertises it as “I don’t have a fecking clue about this country, so here is my travel advice for it!”

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‘We’ve a high bar, & a few hoops to jump’ - exactly who is this ‘We’ ??
Where is ‘We’s’ helpful guide ?, where are the tips and guides to ‘Scotland’ ?

Please feel free to provide constructive Information/Details/Tips - you might feel better

Irony on the Forum

Joke? Kidding? haha . . .

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If you want “tips” from the people on this website, you should ask specific questions and people are usually helpful. “Where should I go in Scotland?” is not a useful question. Not knowing what you want, I could answer with something like Slime Wall on Buchaille Etive Mor.

Thesession.org is an Irish music internet discussion forum, not a travel guide service; hence, no “travel guides” posted here. But as I have already said on this thread, Amazon.com is FULL of these amazing pieces of technology called “books” which have travel information catering to any sort of interest. Failing that, try Googling whatever your query is. The internet has tons of really helpful information, all very accessible.


Damn your eyes Naoise. Everyone above, except MacCruiskeen, is being helpful. If you want this to be useful information you should post it in an appropriate format on another website. Thesession.org isn’t equipped in the slightest to handle what you’re hoping to present. Take the critique, make the corrections, & if you really want to get the information to people ~ create a website.

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Another Edinburgers‘ kiss’

How about constructive comments - such as YOUR favorite tunes (requested a few times) or some CDs or some tune books ???

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Is it constructive if I suggest that the phrase “Edinburger’s kiss” has no meaning? You may be confusing it with the phrase “Glasgow kiss,” which means to headbutt someone.

Been there done that

. . . I hope I don’t find myself kissing anyone from glasgow.

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I’m sure there are a few desperate, lonely souls who hang around the session I could send your way. 🙂

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Hahaha… I should clarify that to mean the punters, not the musicians. We, of course, are all exceedinly cool and popular.

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Is an “Edinburger” made with 100% Celtic beef?