Walking the tightrope……

….. well that’s what it feels like to one as digitally unbalanced and web-netly inept as myself.
So what is it that has removed my on-line ITM safety-net and left me teetering between the chasm of despair and the precipice of destruction ? Well it’s the fantastic site that 30-50 % of the time points me to the session.org … Tune Pal.

For the last week or so when I’ve accessed Tune Pal I’ve had a dire warning that Tune Pal is not trusted by JAVA so I have to risk extermination if I go ahead and use it … and future JAVA updates will block the use of Tune Pal completely. Hence my dilemma: Do I decline to update JAVA (as I have so far) and risk being out of date and unsecure in order to keep using Tune Pal or keep safe with the JAVA update and lose access to Tune Pal ?
I sent a message to Bryan Duggan at Tune Pal but no reply so I need words of wisdom from the tech-savvy musicians among you.
I await replies with baited breath… whatever that means.

I’ve just updates to the latest version of java (7.45) and can confirm the tunepal still works.

‘bated’ as in ‘abated’ = restrained.

‘Baited breath’ sounds fairly unpleasant whatever it does mean……I wait with bated breath to find out (derived from ‘abated’ I believe.)

Session.org pedantry strikes again!

Edit: gam’s beaten me to it

It probably means that the developer of Tunepal has not gotten a security certificate, or has an expired certificate. Whatever the latest version of Java is, it blocks such applications. I think, if it did get blocked, you can allow access… a little dialog box would pop up and ask you if you want to go to the site anyway.

But, according to kinga above, it works, so perhaps there are no worries.

Like mentioned above you can always configure for yourself what you wan’t and don’t want blocked. It’s just these programs want you to update all the time. However in the past JAVA has given me some trouble with new updates making my system unstable (crashes). If you don’t feel the need to update JAVA (everything works as it should), I wouls suggest just leave it as it is… You can always update it at a later stage, no need to update it as long as everything you want to work works. If a JAVA update would make your system unstable, these are kinda hard to undo, you can’t easily switch back to a previous version of JAVA. Hope this helped… (Sorry for the poor English).

Thanks , both to techies and logophiles.
Sounds like I pays my money and makes my choice but good to hear the various information.

Oh dear …. Java has struck.
If anyone has ideas on how I could work round this I’d be very grateful.
Below is the message I’ve just sent to Tunpal but when I sent some thing earlier I had no response from Tunpal so I’m not hopeful:

I think I sent a message to you when Java started requiring me to override a warning it threw up possibly because Tunpals (Java?) certificate was out of date. It made me click each visit to say I wanted to access Tunpal despite possible dangers from an uncertificated site. I continued to use Tunepal but the warning also said in future Java may block the site completely which it now has done.

:(
Java now no longer permits me to access Tunepal at all.

Hello sessnioholic,
This is a server side problem, tunepal really should renew their certificate because if it ever would get hacked all its users would risk getting hacked/information stolen. Now, chances of that for a site like tunepal are slim so if you want to use it anyway:
-update java: http://java.com/en/download/
-install it, *DO NOT INSTALL THE TOOLBAR* , it’s crappy and terrible etc.
- go to start or press the windows button
- scroll to java
- click configure java
- click security
- click edit site list
- add: http://tunepal.org/tunepal/index.php click ok.
That’s how it should work, good luck.

If you open Java from Control Panel and look under the ‘security’ tab, you should be able to enable access, either by entering Bryan Duggan in the trusted sites, or setting the slider to about the middle of the range. Without knowing what system you are using, I can’t be more specific, but have a look anyway and see what’s there.

YES, you SHOULD update Java, absolutely--if you keep it, at all! It has become infamous for security problems:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9242593/Java_exploits_seen_as_huge_menace_so_far_this_year

“Java was the most targeted development platform for exploit attacks during the first half of [2013], and attacks have increasingly shifted to zero-day vulnerabilities, according to F-Secure’s new threat report.”

The workaround (to add TunePal to the approved site list) should work, as described. But more cautious computer users are uninstalling Java completely, because of the “zero-day” exploits. TunePal is legit (and its host server may be completely secure), but you could run into trouble elsewhere, with outdated Java.

Disclaimer: I’m a retired semi-techie, not an internet security expert. If Dr Duggan has better information about Java and Tunepal, I hope he will enlighten us.

Thanks Guys
I was hoping to get it working to tell you all you’d succeeded but am pretty busy so saying thanks is taking priority over sorting it (thought it sounds quite quick)
Hope to be back soon saying “it works”

How soon is soon ?
Now will have to do.
“It works” … I updated Java but still have to click through a warning window from Java each time I visit TunePal . Having done that TunePal works OK.
Thanks