Tunes ending with a repeated tonic phrase

Tunes ending with a repeated tonic phrase

There is a small class of tunes that has a distinctive repeated phrase at line endings, for example this tune, https://thesession.org/tunes/1317 which I know as Donald na Greine (excuse my Gaelic) or Donald of the Sun from the GHB tradition, or The Thief of Lochaber - https://thesession.org/tunes/5326

From the GHB tradition the canonical example must be the quickstep Highland Laddie - https://thesession.org/tunes/1524

This last leads me into speculation, because there are a group of tunes, starting with the Dixon manuscript, called Highland Laddie, that have this same rhythm but completely different melodies and harmonic structure, and not least, a dance by the same name.

Is there a dance or dances, in the Irish or Scottish tradition, that fit this particular group of tunes? Is there a name for tunes of this type? It’s interesting that there are both jig and quickstep examples.

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Taking a hint from a comment under one of the tunes in the dabatase here, I wonder if they could have set the pace or rhythm for some form of work or military drill. Highland Laddie was (later presumably) used for a sea shanty.

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Not sure what you mean by "repeated tonic phrase".

If you mean a tune that ends with the tonic note being repeated, Highland Laddie certainly doesn’t qualify, because the tune strikes me as straightforward D Major tune, but it ends on the note B.

(I’m speaking of the way it’s played in Scotland. I’ve never heard the simplified version you provide a link to.)

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Not sure how else I can explain except by reference to the examples I gave!

I have to admit I’ve never really got on board with this "it’s clearly in D major" thing. Yes, the tune sits on the major chords most of the way through but for me replacing the final B with a D (as in the first example given) always grates (you hear dance bands playing this sometimes for Gay Gordons and the like).

Anyway, that’s probably a bit of a red herring in terms of my original question, if you can call it that.

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Taking Calum’s original question:-

Highland Laddie is listed as the Regimental Quick March in the Scots Guards tunebook (Vol.1). This is the section where the regimental marches (quick march, slow march) and the routine pipe calls are listed.

@David50: Pipe calls are listed for a number of standard daily items, from Reveille through to Lights Out.

On the tune itself: The fifth version listed at https://thesession.org/tunes/1524 is identical in notes to the Scots Guards version, as far as I can see.

However, I would disagree with the key signature shown in this version. As a GHB tune I would play this [on concertina] with top G as G# and bottom G as Gnat. If there were any C notes I would play them as C#.

Thus B minor is the closest approximation, in my humble opinion.