Lilting and TuneSongs.

Lilting and TuneSongs.

I’ve managed to collect a lot of good music of players of the various instruments, even Uilleann Pipes, Flute and the various Free Reeds. But I’ve noticed that my collection is severely lacking in terms of lilting and "tunesinging".

All I have is two Chieftains recordings, one is them lilting "The Chicago Reel" https://thesession.org/tunes/840 the third tune here at 2:09…
https://youtu.be/wbT_1EFOLsk

and singing the "tunesong"(?) "Cailleach An Airgead"
https://thesession.org/tunes/351
The third tune(song) here, starting at 2:16
https://youtu.be/ktMkWojRMu8


Moira Smiley lilting and singing "The Hawk and Crow"(song), and lilting "The Monaghan Twig"(tune) right after, on her "Rua" album(the recording isn’t listed here).

A recording of Seamus Begley and Jim Murray singing and playing something called "An Seanduine"(it’s black-lettered), a song that sounds like a jig but has an odd time.
https://thesession.org/recordings/3936

And Lasairfhiona ni Chonaola singing and lilting Bean Phaidin, but also in an odd time.
https://thesession.org/tunes/13286
https://youtu.be/HhyWXnyykds


Anyone know where I can find more recordings of lilting? Anything is acceptable, accapella, backed, male vocalist, female vocalist, old, new, it really doesn’t matter as long as it’s lilting. I never really learned how to lilt, I just repeated the nonsense syllables from the recordings I mentioned up top and settled for those. Now I wanna learn more.
(Oh, and if you feel I’m over-complicating things again, and you believe "diddle dot-di, rite-di diddly, dit doo diddle-ah doe" is all I need to know, feel free to say so.)

Also, it’d be nice to get some more recordings of "tunesongs". I’m not sure how many there are, but I know they’re out there. I didn’t know Cailleach An Airgead was a tune, neither did I know Bean Phaidin was a tune, but they’re favorites and I’m sure I’d like more if I heard them. Thanks in advance.

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Seamus Fay is a fine lilter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmfaQbg2COc and has a recording titled "Cavan’s Lilter".

Bobby Gardiner, the accordion/melodeon player also lilts on "The Clare Shout" and does a nice version of a song called "The Fair Of Ennistymon" on his "The High Level" CD, a song which will surely find its way into the tune repertoire.
I learnt my version of The Hunter’s Purse from the lilting of Pat Kilduff(Chieftains3).

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https://thesession.org/recordings/555
Track #2 has 3 songs which would fit the bill of "tunesongs".
Jerone - I have a recording of Sean Cannon of the Dubliners doing a "party piece", which I don’t think he ever recorded. It was him lilting "The Bunch Of Keys", and for reasons I won’t go into here, he called it "The Ayatollah Reel". Contact me through a PM and I’ll send it to you. It’s brilliant !
I may be able to find one or two other tracks for you as well.

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Tony, wow! Good stuff! That Tom Billy’s he lilted is a favorite of mine, loved it. Looks like "Cavan’s Lilter" is on iTunes, and after listening to some samples, it sounds great! It’s a generous recording too, with a whopping 33 tracks, goodness! Looks like I’ll be getting that one sooner than later.

Thanks Kenny, Dervish is one of the older, more revered bands isn’t it? I see that name a lot.

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I love Lasairfhiona ni Chonaola’s version of Bean Phaidin, I have it as my wake-up alarm on my phone.

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I love it too Alexander, but it sits alone on my "Gaelic Songs" playlist cause it’s the only recording I have of it’s kind, of that gentle, smooth, but groovy/danceable style. Everything else I have concerning songs is ballads and love songs, except for a handful of upbeat songs sung by Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh.

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I would second dunnp’s pick. This compilation is pure gold. For ten years before YerTube existed this was the ‘go-to’ standard for peurt-a-beul. Priceless bits harvested from old 78’s as well as ‘production’ bits. Most of this is really how it was actually done ‘in the wild’.
During WWII an older friend, who was ferrying bombers across the North Atlantic was snowed in for over a week in Gander. The locals put on ‘a bit of an entertainment’ for the servicemen by way of a ceilidh dance. They had no instruments, but a three man ‘mouth-music’ crew did the honors. Rhythm, melody, and dance calls.

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Jerone, Dervish was a force in the 90’s but have eventually morphed into a backup band for there singer (IMO ). The early stuff is great, though I’ve kind of grown past the big group format, if you know what I mean. I really liked their original fiddler Shane McAleer, who has come out with his own record recently, a very good on at that that I currently enjoy more that anything in the Dervish catalog.

Here is a nice taste of Dervish for you if you feel like checking them out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jjcL2QTsc

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And here is the listing for Shane McAleer’s album if you want to follow up on that. I think I’ll go give it another spin now that I’m thinking about it…

https://thesession.org/recordings/4421

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Ella Fitzgerald. Different genre, but the best lilter in the history of the planet.

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I love her lilting, Mr. Brown. One cannot help but wonder what an instrumentalist may learn hearing their voice emanating through her’s.

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Lot’s of good stuff guys, thanks! I’ll have to listen when I get off work though.

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Hi Jerone - I sent you an email with 3 MP3 files attached earlier today, but there’s some doubt at the moment as to whether or not some emails I’m sending out are being received. Could you let me know if you received it - either here, in this discussion, or by a PM ? Thanks. I have another to follow in the next half-hour or so. Again, please let me know if you do receive it.
Many thanks, Kenny

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Everything checks out on this side Kenny! Even the download links worked. Man, I’ve never heard lilting like that before on that "Seriously Airy" track. That’s wild stuff! I’ll be listening to the rest of it throughout the day. Thanks man!

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Glad to hear that you got the recordings Jerone. I may have one or two more to send you yet.
All the best. Kenny.

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Lovely thread here, kudos to all.

I’ve been joyfully deedleing all morning.

Best teacher I ever had said there wasn’t much point in trying to play a tune you couldn’t sing.

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I have setup something similar for tune-songs on here, there might be some crossover! http://bit.ly/1qBsm4U