Klezmer Tune ID

Klezmer Tune ID

Have been hooked on Daire Mulhern’s playing of a Klezmer tune recently. It’s here:
https://soundcloud.com/user-613973181/a-redl-klezmer-jewish-polka-1


He calls it "A Redl", which according to this site (http://borzykowski.users.ch/EnglMCKlezmer.htm) is a tune type in their tradition, having a time signature of 2/4 or 4/4.

Anyone have any idea of what the actual name of this "redl" is? Would like to hunt down the dots.

Have found many sites with Klezmer sheet music, would be a tall task to search through it all without the tune name though.

If anyone is interested, here’s a compiled list of the resources:
1) http://www.ilanacravitz.com/resources.htm
2) http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Klezmer/
3) http://www.stifterhof.de/_service/musikinfo.htm
4) http://www.freesheetmusic.net/klezmer.html
5) http://www.ilanacravitz.com/music&sound.htm
6) https://klezmerguide.com/guide.html
7) https://www.schoellerfamily.org/scores/
8) http://www.zisman.ca/squeezebox/Music/KLEZMER%20TUNES%202013.pdf
9) http://www.belfology.com/
10) https://musescore.com/sheetmusic?text=klezmer

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I never heard klezmer played on a button box before, impressive! From what I’ve seen of klezmer music over the years, tunes are often referred to simply as ‘hora’ ‘nigun’ ‘bulgar’ ‘freylekh’ ‘doina’ etc which is like us calling a tune ‘jig’ ‘reel’ ‘hornpipe’- makes finding individual tune titles an uphill struggle……….

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I used to be hooked on klezmer before I found ITM. Unfortunately I can’t help you with the tune name, as I have never heard it (some tunes do have names, if only to put on a record slieve). I also have not heard of a "redl" as a distinctive tune type. You could, in fact, try searching that term in the resources and see what you find.

Best of luck!
Daniel

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Like in a lot of dance music traditions, many klezmer tunes do not have names as such, although sometimes they become associated with a particular musician (or collector) or place, e.g. "X’s Redl" or "Redl from X".

The first tune in this recording is familiar to me as I play it in a klezmer band. If I remember correctly, we got it from the Kostakovsky collection, one of a number of collections of Yiddish music (the term ‘klezmer’ for the genre of music was not used until more recently) made in Russia/Ukraine/Belarus in the early 20th Century and only unearthed in recent years, after the fall of the Soviet Union. So you could legitimately call it ‘Kostakovsky’s Redl’ - except that that could refer to any of several redlsin the collection. Interestingly, the title it is given for this tune in the collection is ‘A Volich’ (another type of dance tune*) - the tune preceding it on the same page is called ‘A Redl’ (which we play _after_ the other one).

*The precise definitions of the terms ‘volich’ (also spelled ‘volekh’, ‘woloch’) and ‘redl’ - both of which abound in the Kostakovsky collection - is a little hazy. Tunes with the title ‘volich’ exist in various different time signatures (2/4, 3/8, 3/4) and don’t seem to follow any consistent structure. ‘Redl’ appears to be synonymous with ‘freylekhs’ (‘frailachs’, ‘freilechs’ etc.), the term most often used nowadays for a lively dance tune in 2/4 or 4/4.

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Awesome, thank you everyone!

Will check out the Kostakovsky collection Creadur, much appreciated.

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You can hear a more ‘authentic’ rendition by Margot Leverett & the Klezmer Mountain Boys on their eponymous album (track 12: A Redl & a Volich - they seem to have the titles reversed from how they appear in the book).

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The linked recording seems to be of two different tunes; the second tune staring at about 3’05".

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*starting*

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Creadur, had noticed that recording, and once I heard the first tune "A Redl" not sounding anything like the tune posted above, started looking elsewhere. Thanks for pointing out the naming mix-up, will check it out!

Barry, yes, that’s right. Daire titled the second tune as a Jewish Polka.

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Creadur, you were referring to Nat or Wolff Kostakowsky’s "International Hebrew Wedding Music" (1916 or 1917), which has been re-published by Joshua Horowitz and Tara as "The Ultimate Klezmer", right?

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correction, I have heard klezmer played on button box before, De Dannan had a crack at it some years back - was Mairtin O Connor their accordianist at the time?
ps ‘Jewish reels’ i think they called them

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Didn’t realize you were in a klezmer band, CMO. Cool! Also I remember that De Dannan set; definitely interesting. They got at least one of those tunes from klezmer clarinetist Dave Tarras, I’m fairly sure. Didn’t think I’d ever mention Tarras on an ITM forum… mostly because I happen to prefer his "rival" Naftule Brandwein, minus his many eccentricities. Have been trying to pay more attention to old klezmer fiddle recordings lately, being a fiddler myself, and not a clarinetist.

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I was literally just looking through the http://www.lutins.org/music/scores/carlyle/ and about to ABC some of the "redl" and "volich" scores. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction Creadur! Much appreciated.

On a related note, I’m curious about how does your Klezmer band play it? Closer to the traditional take, like the Margot Leverett & the Klezmer Mountain Boys you had pointed out earlier, or, closer to Daire Mulhern’s?

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thanks for the De Dannan vid, NfldWhistler - and yes it was Mairtin O’ Connor. Daniel P., the tunes were originally from Dave Tarras but DD had them from Andy Statman, I think they were on a US tour with him at that time.

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Thanks for the info Christy. I have a couple recordings of Tarras playing them, very nice.

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You’re welcome Daniel. This discussion of klezmer/ITM crossover reminded me of a tune I learnt many years ago but subsequently forgotten - it was on an early Lunasa recording and was simply called Freylekh [freilich, fraylach, however you want to spell it] and was quite a sombre tune although the Yiddish word supposedly means ‘happy, joyful’. The only phrase I can remember, in Em, is GAAGGF#F#EE|| that was repeated each time round the tune. Anyone help?

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that’s the one, thanks Jeff.