Hybrid Morris/Irish sessions? "Still, there aren’t any bad points 🙂"

Hybrid Morris/Irish sessions? "Still, there aren’t any bad points 🙂"

Jim Dorans posted about this type of session in festivals. Jim, your post* was very funny. I have played with a handful of Morris musicians and have played a few of their (morris) tunes. But never enough to call it a hybrid session. Is it typically at festivals? Is it typical in certain localities?
Ben

* https://thesession.org/discussions/43812#comment875191

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In multicultural London there is a regular blurring of players around the peripheries at Trad Irish Sessions, Trad English Sessions and Morris events.

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It’s a shame that Ireland, apart from probably the Wren Boys, have lost most of its trad seasonal/ pagan/ eccentric dancing.

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Yhaal House, I do not have an account w/Facebook. What is on the video?

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So this discussion thread is a spin-off of the Morris-hating going on in the sessions-from-hell thread, which was a spin-off of unhosted/vs hosted sessions thread? Weird.

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I must be very lucky, I think, to be a part of a session where Irish, English, Morris, French, Breton, and a smattering of other tune types are played by all and thoroughly enjoyed by all - even by some of the punters in the bar!
Could this be the session from hell or a purist’s pet hate?
It’s all music after all….mind you, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.

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So I did a search and found a beer/ale festival which is going to be in London early August. Does anyone know if the festival(s) will include sessions like Jim Dorans described? If so which pubs and will anyone be playing there?

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"I must be very lucky to be a part of a session where Irish, English, Morris, French, Breton, and other tune types are played and enjoyed by all - even by the punters in the bar!"

I endorse JK’s comment above (slightly edited here). I’ve just come in from a session where there were examples of English, Irish, Swedish, Northumbrian, Scottish and French tunes, plus a few songs - both trad and contemporary. Some very accomplished players and some quite tentative, but all widely enjoyed and appreciated by participants and bar customers alike. I’ve also been to a local session where the music was all Irish, with some really expert playing. That was very good too. Yay diversity! Different strokes for different folks.

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I believe that Morris On’s Jig is a very popular hybrid tune.
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Dudes, it is not a stretch to say most sessions play tunes from different genres. No one on this board was born yesterday. The OP is about Jim’s specific reference to a type of session hybrid which… I think he called them a stringed miasma. Thanks for the brilliant input but that’s the session hybrid I’m asking about. His description seems to be about ad hoc festival sensations outside the realm of typical sessions.

"Morris On’s" tee-hee!

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Morris music is a specialised subset of English dance music. It could be argued that it’s only Morris music when it’s played to accompany Morris dancing.

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I view the hybrid sessions as primarily social gatherings of people who play trad tunes (and sing trad songs). That includes people hanging out together at festivals and some local sessions.

I enjoy those but if a session is supposed to be mainly one trad genre I prefer, for stylistic reasons, sticking mainly to that. I go to one ‘mainly English’ session where an over-abundance of morris tunes is frowned upon even though a fair proportion of people play for morris.

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//His description seems to be about ad hoc festival sensations outside the realm of typical sessions. //

Ben - AB - this particular one is on every year, and it’s a hybrid / ad hoc thing for sure.

I guess I shouldn’t make too much of a deal of it, but the "microtonal miasma" does sum it up rather accurately. The session really is a free-for-all, very mixed-ability, and the overall sound can be quite dreadful. However, remember this is a real ale festival, and that’s what the focus is - man beer and fun. "Music" is secondary 🙂

That said, the musos are a very welcoming bunch, and even if you played a resophonic shehnai with a metal bell end, attached to a percussion array, you’d be given a seat.

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I am fortunate that in Portsmouth, Hampshire, UK we have many excellent musicians who are masters of ITM even though they are not Irish!

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Great to play Irish music in an Irish session. Fun to play English music in an English session. Mix them at the same place and time? No thanks. Just becomes a blur of styles and encourages those who can’t be bothered to learn genre- and instrument-specific techniques.

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Kill it with fire!

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@cab … and sometimes you get two tunes going on at the same time!

The pub gets so noisy at times. Someone will start a tune, eg ‘Pigeon On the Gate’, and someone at the other end of the ‘circle’ will just hear the implied Em and D chords, and think it’s ‘Cooley’s Reel’, then fire up on that.

Did someone mention ‘fire’ ? 🙂

@RKHambridge - we may have a mutual friend. Do you know Ben Potton? he plays fiddle.

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You need to hear the tune, Jim. It’s not a session without a tune. Well, I guess it’s a session for some; not for me though.

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//Well, I guess it’s a session for some; not for me though.//

Not for me either, Ben.