barndances on the flute - recordings

barndances on the flute - recordings

Hi,
I recently noticed that I now very few barndances - and to be honest, until now I had never been very interested in barndances because playing them on my main instrument (the flute) wasn’t very satisfying. To me, it always seemed that barndances are "made for" fiddles and accordions and often sound boring on the flute.
Therefore I am currently looking for recordings of barndances featuring a flute to learn some barndances and most importantly, to get an idea how to play them nicely on the flute.

Thanks for your help!

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Wow David. I (an unapologetic fluter) have always thought that barndances got the best melodies when tunes were handed out. Beware of playing them too slow. My rather fuzzy notion of barndances is that they include figures with bigger melodic jumps that add a lot of interest and "brightness", even some humor, to tunes. In fact I don’t know that many either, but that’s just because many local players here can’t reach outside of the droney piper tune or generic reel. (Not to insult piper tunes and reels but Jeez guys, there is more to life). My current favorites include Chaffpool Post (James Gannon’s) and Bluebell Polka.

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Around the Fairy Fort composed by Vincent Broderick

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Coincidentally, I’ve just been passing these 2 barndnces around flute players in Aberdeen - track #7, and it’s a recording I wholeheartedly recommend :
https://thesession.org/recordings/6383

Eureka : https://youtu.be/OsRPRTDPIh8


We’ve also been playing Vincent Broderick’s 2 barndances, the one kkrell mentions above and "The New Broom", which almost always goes with it.
https://youtu.be/O-v9W7thAbI

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I, of course, like the version of Around the Fairy Fort played live by John Skelton on Wooden Flute Obsession volume 1, Disc 1. It follows him playing the air The Fire in the Hearth (composed by Freeland Barbour).

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Following the last note … anyone able to post the abc/dots for The Fire in the Hearth?

Also a Q about ‘barndances’ as a category … bigsciota (above) refers to ‘Germans’. Would these be what the Scandinavians refer to as a ‘reinlander’ (sometimes ‘ringlander’) - that is, more or less, a schottische? What are the defining characteristics of a ‘barndance’, and are they shared with tunes under these other names?

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I don’t know what happened to my comment. I sent it about 2 hours ago and it’s gone. Here’s another try as best as I can remember: I like to play barndances on the flute. They’re typically sprightly, happy, good for the spirits and sound great on the flute. The recent album by The Dublin Lasses (called The Dublin Lasses) has two tracks with barndances, Vincent Broderick’s (as discussed in previous comments) and Eddie Duffy’s (aka Jimmy Duffy’s). The Dublin Lasses are Aoife O’Connor (concertina), Majella O’Beirne (flutes and whistle), and Mary Corcoran (piano). Here is the listing of the recording on thesession: https://thesession.org/recordings/6689

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Around the Fairy Fort and Dances at Kinvara on Brid O’Gorman’s CD Bluebells Are Blooming.

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Anyone tell me, please, the difference between a ‘barndance’ and a ‘German’?
I’ve also come across ‘barndances’ in English trad and they seem somewhat similar to me.

It’s all rather confusing really…..at least for me.

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"German" - "these are in 4/4 time and are similar in tempo and articulation to the barndance" - Fintan Vallely’s "Companion To Irish Traditional Music" [ 1st edition - pp 152 ].

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Conal Ó Gráda makes barn dances sound pretty good on flute. There’s a track on each of the Raw Bar Collective CDs:
This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YZKqfG9CE on the second album (Hayes Favourite+Charlie O’Neill’s) and Chaffpool Post+Kerry Mills on the first album.


Hammy Hamilton plays a couple with Seamus Creagh and Con Ó Drisceoil on It’s No Secret:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vvyS8EcW0w (Dances at Kinvara and Hills of Tara)


These are the tracks that made me realise how flutable barn dances could be.

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@kenny…..still confused and wondering. Does that mean any 4/4 could be played as a barndance or is just the way you play it stylisticaly? Swung, straight, phrasing or what?
Or is it a case of trying to describe what makes the Mona Lisa a great work of art?

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As far as I get it many hornpipes and strathspeys might be played as barndances nicely. A 32 bar tune in 4/4 bearing many possibilities for triplets and less for rolls will do. Most barndances have that ‘light’, optimistic feel. Less swing, than in hornpipes, but still strong emphasis on beats. Scotch snaps untypical. Add them to turn barndance into highland fling. My 2 cents. Please, correct false statements, if any.

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So, a case of make it up as you go along then! That’ll sit well with the ‘purists’ eh?!
Anybody willing or want to take a shot at defining what makes a German a German?

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Apologies to Davidread about hijacking your thread.

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Thank you all for your replies! You gave me a lot inspiration (and motivation ;) ) for playing Barndances! I am actually surprised how much I now want to learn them :D
@John that was an interesting discussion, thanks!