Br*****t Duty in Germany.

Br*****t Duty in Germany.

I have just ordered a book from David Mallinson for delivery to Germany. Value on parcel GBP10. Book arrives and I have to pay EUR8.23 - EUR2.23 Duty and a 6Euro unavoidable flat rate fee from the Post for collecting the money!

The end result is that I cannot order anything from Britain any more. Pity.

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Is it not possible to order it from some outlet in Ireland?
Just a thought.

All the best
Brian x

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@Brian, certainly a path I will be investigating next time. Or send it to my mum and pick it up next time I’m over.

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I’ve just received a package from the UK, value just over £50, and not paid a cent, let alone several euro, in duty or administrative charges. I live in Ireland.

This site explains why.

https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html.

You should not have paid any duty at all, Crackpot, if the book you purchased was made in Britain.

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I’ve ordered two CD’s from Amazon and after klicking "Buy now" I saw, that they got send from Amazon UK. I was prepared for the worst, because i read from others, that they had to pay more tax then the cost of the CD, but they arrived without any extra paying.

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And who am I meant to argue with? The postman who comes to my door and demands the money is carefully shorn of any knowledge or authority to discuss it. And the book should definitely have been covered by the free movement of goods… And it is not even the duty that bothers me so much as the unavoidable flat rate fee imposed by the **** post office here.

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The sender, Crackpot.

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sorry crackpot, I apologise for the other 52% of my compatriots , many of whom are now probably thinking ‘oh f*** why did I vote for that……………..’

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@Christy: And I am one myself too, but I didn’t get to vote due to living here in Germany.
@GW: The sender has no influence on what the various customs and post operations make of things.
I have been looking for an EU based reseller of David’s books and have found one or two volumes available, but not the whole catalogue and not the book in question (Balfolk).

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I bought a book recently from scotlandsmusic.com, which I believe is based on the Isle of Skye - the book cost £18.00 with a couple of pounds postage but no import duty, extra VAT, or charges (I’m in Ireland), I must admit I was a bit apprehensive beforehand even though I knew it was well below the allowed limit. Your experience, Crackpot, takes the jaysus biscuit

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What’s "Br*****t"?
I recently sent a present which I bought from Bonny Scotland to a friend in Berlin. It cost me somewhere around $300. Australian. I had it posted to me in Australia and then re-posted it withe the customs declaration that it was a gift and second hand (legally true). Sure, it cost me postage, but I didn’t want the recipient to be hit by a tax bill out of (I believe) brexit spite. It arrived without any duty charge.

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It’s likely the senders issue as they didn’t mark the product correctly *

Due to the “trade deal”, you shouldn’t have to pay an extra customs charge (which then results in the postage company adding an extra handling charge, which I agree often seems disproportionately large) on any product largely manufactured in the origin country, eg I recently bought an expensive Delrin flute from EU to UK and it didn’t attract charges as (whilst the delrin was from China) the majority value was created in the EU (the formation of the flute).

If it had been imported to the EU from China then resold by a shop there and I bought it (from the UK) it would have attracted customs charges. The idea being to prevent the UK/EU undercutting each other.

The sender does have to fill in the details on the package correctly to ensure you don’t receive a charge. I stopped buying anything from the EU for a while post Brexit but have now started asking them if their UK customers complain about customs charges, if not I try to order, assuming they do the paperwork correctly and (as of yet) haven’t been charged.

Amazon (due to its wealth) has a network which avoids this sort of thing, but I try to avoid it as a solution as small independent businesses are being hammered by Brexit, and Amazon is yet another nail (I travelled to march in both London anti-Brexit marches, dressed as an EU wizard and playing my whistle)

* The only issue is I’m not sure if the book would count as being majority value made in the UK if it had actually been bound/printed eg in China then brought back to the uk.

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I am sure the paperwork was done correctly and that the German customs misapplied the duty, but the setup is arranged so that complaining about it is almost impossible. I am trying anyway.
There is also a lot of hit and miss in the application of customs duty in most countries. It seems to be largely a matter of luck if a parcel slips in under the radar. I know stories of large purchases missing out on customs completely and others being hammered. Strangely, in my experience, the more priority on the shipment, the more closely the customs seem to look at it…

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@Christy Taylor - please let’s not continue to repeat the myth/misleading propaganda: only 37% of your compatriots ‘voted for it’ in the "indicative only" referendum. 28% did not participate, and I like to think they were all waiting for the binding vote which never actually materialised. In all, 63% of the electorate did not ‘vote for it’.
On subject, I’ve never had word of any of my friends living in various parts of the EU being surcharged in this way.

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So, when the German postal service makes a mistake on customs charges on a package from say, the USA, Russia, India or whatever, do people blame Brexit?

Jerry, we can only count votes that are cast, and David Cameron made it very clear that the referendum was not "indicative." There was no discussion of "indicative" or "symbolic" votes before the referendum.

These are old, tired arguments.

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@Andrew -whether you call it ‘indicative’ or ‘advisory’, it wasn’t binding. However, my previous post was solely to correct the implication that a majority of the electorate as a whole gave support. It did not.

An argument to support democracy by the majority will of the populace is as old as Greece, sure; but not tired.

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The referendum was called because Cameron was scared of UKIP taking voters and the nutters in his party saw (and took) their opportunity. It wasn’t binding in law but all the parties agreed to abide by the result, so it made no odds in the end. The "Leave" campagn was based on lies, fake-news, media-driven xenophobia and ignorance but I don’t think there’s any point arguing that the result somehow wasn’t valid. There have been two elections since and, in the run up to both, the eventual winners campaigned on "getting Brexit done". It’s all old news now, anyway!
I nearly imported some Marmite in March… But then I saw the price of the duty!

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I used to get hammered with duty when ordering stuff from the USA (StewMac) until I asked them to put the order value on the outside of the package. Without that, the courier would pay the tax based on the package weight to get it through customs, which seemed to involve a lot of extra charges that disappeared when the order value was visible.

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"The ‘Leave’ campagn was based on lies, fake-news, media-driven xenophobia and ignorance"

That’s what the establishment and liberal media wanted people to think. It’s what they promoted to try to drown out real working class people and organisations.

Opposing the EU (and before it the Common Market, EEC) has always been the position of the left, by which I mean socialists and communists. You’ll find this all across the countries in the EU. It was the majority position in the Labour Party before it was engulfed by Blairism and liberalism, a pro-capitalist ideology.

Tony Benn was the doyen of the anti-EU left. Was he xenophobic and ignorant? No, he was internationalist and coherent.

The socialist and communist analysis of the EU as an anti-democratic, neo-liberal capitalist club was carefully kept out of the most public discussion by the media gatekeepers. The working class rebellion against neo-liberal policies that destroyed their communities and quality of life has been carefully cultivated by the media into "racism and xenophobia."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq72f81kkM4


My city, and you’d be hard-pressed to find a more mixed, multicultural place outside of parts of London, voted overwhelmingly for exit from the EU.

I was one of those who canvassed door to door and actually talked to hundreds of everyday people on the door. The only "ignorance" I found was of working class history and struggle and the belief that gains made by the British labour movement (equal pay, maternity rights and many more)were somehow attributable to the EU. What I did not find was xenophobia and racism. The caricature of the stupid, thick working class ignoramus who didn’t know what they were doing is insulting.

I know we’re not supposed to be discussing this here, but, sorry, I had to respond to this pervasive propaganda.

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Ah yes, empty your supermarket shelves for the benefit of the working classes.

There may be a valid left-wing critique of the EU but it certainly wasn’t what Cummings and his gang offered, and what we got has certainly been of no benefit to the said working classes.

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As I wrote in my previous comment, I sent a present of second hand clothing to Berlin from Australia. I mistakenly believed it had been delivered with no tax charge. I was just informed by the recipient that, ……"apparently Germans don’t really give a damn if it’s a present or not because they charged me 23 euros import tax…"
Now this parcel did not contain any musical instrument, nor, coming from Australia does it have anything to do with Brexit. I should add that I received the very same goods from Scotland and had no import charge, so maybe my friend’s explanation is the right one.

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