Songs in 9/8

Songs in 9/8

I’m looking for songs specifically in 9/8 time signature. I am just beginning to play Irish music so my knowledge of the repertoire is mighty slim. Any ideas if there are songs in 9/8? I keep hearing one in my mind but can’t remember any lyrics and just a very basic outline of the melody. Maybe it was a Scottish?

Thanks for any help.

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Rocky road to Dublin comes to mind.

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There are lots of "songs" in 9/8 and tunes which are also songs….

e.g. The Rocky road to Dublin https://thesession.org/tunes/593

Rattlin’ Roaring Willie (which is a Scottish song too) https://thesession.org/tunes/7837

These are very well known and I’m sure there are plenty of videos and even lyrics online. You could have a look through the 9/8s on this site and you might find a few more. Or you could try "googling" a few of the more likely ones….. There will be many.

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Rattlin’ Roarin’ Willie is a Scottish one in 9/8, possibly what you were thinking of?

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You were quicker than me, Davy. I should type shorter posts.
🙂

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in Northumbria ‘Peacock followed the Hen’ and over the Border, ‘Brose and Butter’

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Wow! Thanks to all for your replies. Rocky Road to Dublin is the tune in my head. All the tunes you’ve listed are great! I only can sing, sort of, in English so I’ll try to learn one or two of those.

Thanks again for leading me to another rabbit hole…!

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Also "Up wi’ the Carls o’ Dysart" from the Burns repertoire.

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Barney Brannigan
I Have a Wife of My Own
Shew’s the Way to Wallington
Andrew Carr
Drops of Brandy (the Northumbrian group Canny Fettle sing the song "Cuddy Clumps" to this tune)
and there’s also one on the Poozies’ Baytree waltz set, I believe called Faca Sibh.
These are the ones I can think of that haven’t already been mentioned.

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A few more I remembered:
Sorry the Day I was Married (from the tune Ellen oGrady)
The Dusty Miller (sung by Jock Tamson’s Bairns)
Buy Broom Besoms
And there is a song that sounds like it is in 9/8 that is the first in the Oldham Tinkers’ Coalhole medley, not sure of the name though.

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John Doyle’s "Burke and Hare"

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The Night Poor Larry Was Stretched is a 9/8 song in Dublin thieves’ cant:

The night before Larry was stretched,
The boys they all paid him a visit;
A bait in their sacks, too, they fetched;
They sweated their duds till they riz it:
For Larry was ever the lad,
When a boy was condemned to the squeezer,
Would fence all the duds that he had
To help a poor friend to a sneezer,
And warm his gob ’fore he died.

The boys they came crowding in fast,
They drew all their stools round about him,
Six glims round his trap-case were placed,
He couldn’t be well waked without ’em.
When one of us asked could he die
Without having truly repented,
Says Larry, “That’s all in my eye;
And first by the clargy invented,
To get a fat bit for themselves”

“I’m sorry, dear Larry,” says I,
“To see you in this situation;
And blister my limbs if I lie,
I’d as lieve it had been my own station.”
“Ochone! it’s all all over,” says he,
“For the neck-cloth I’ll be forced to put on,
And by this time to-morrow you’ll see
Your poor Larry as dead as a mutton,
Because, why, his courage was good.

“And I’ll be cut up like a pie,
And my nob from my body be parted.
“You’re in the wrong box, then,” says I,
“For blast me if they’re so hard-hearted;
A chalk on the back of your neck
Is all that Jack Ketch dares to give you;
Then mind not such trifles a feck,
For why should the likes of them grieve you?
And now, boys, come tip us the deck.”

The cards being called for, they played,
Till Larry found one of them cheated;
A dart at his napper he made
(The boy being easily heated) ;
“Oh, by the hokey, you thief,
I’ll scuttle your nob with my daddle!
You cheat me because I’m in grief,
But soon I’ll demolish your noddle,
And leave you your claret to drink.”

Then the clergy came in with his book,
He spoke him so smooth and so civil;
Larry tipped him a Kilmainham look,
And pitched his big wig to the devil;
Then sighing, he threw back his head,
To get a sweet drop of the bottle,
And pitiful sighing, he said:
“Oh, the hemp will be soon round my throttle,
And choke my poor windpipe to death.

“Through sure it’s the best way to die,
Oh, the devil a better a-living!
For, sure when the gallows is high
Your journey is shorter to heaven:
But what harasses Larry the most,
And makes his poor soul melancholy,
Is to think on the time when his ghost
Will come in a sheet to sweet Molly—
Oh, sure it will kill her alive!”

So moving these last words he spoke,
We all vented our tears in a shower;
For my part, I thought my heart broke,
To see him cut down like a flower.
On his travels we watched him next day,
Oh, the throttler! I thought I could kill him;
But Larry not one word did say,
Nor changed till he came to “King William”—
Then, musha! his color grew white.

When he came to the nubbling chit,
He was tucked up so neat and so pretty,
The rumbler jogged off from his feet,
And he died with his feet to the city;
He kicked, too—but that was all pride,
But soon you might see ’twas all over;
Soon after the noose was untied,
And at darky we waked him in clover,
And sent him to take a ground sweat.

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Hi TheHappyCamper,
Thanks for the info on The Night poor Larry was Stretched. I had forgotten that the Northumbrian Skipper’s Wedding is sung to the same melody as this tune also, but with much more joyful lyrics!

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"The Wheels Of The World" - to the tune of "Maire Rua". Recorded by Donal Maguire, Len Graham and also John Doyle.

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"The Salt", to the same tune-"Maire Rua" or "Moll Roe"

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Not Irish nor Trad: Beautiful Dreamer by Stephen Foster.

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Another one … ‘The Devil and Bailiff McGlynn’ - sung by June Tabor on ‘Ashes and Diamonds’ (rec. 1977 - subsequently on Topic TSCD360, 1989). The song goes to the tune ‘Moll Roe’ (thesession.org/tunes/527)

Yhaal House … was ‘Beautiful Dreamer’ really written in 9/8? I hear it in 3/4

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We sang Beautiful Dreamer in my college music class a few times, and it did not sound like it was in 9/8, though that’s not to say there could be some versions that are.

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Oh, and Dance to your Daddy, in the Northumbrian tradition, is another.

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Yhaal House is right about "Beautiful Dreamer" - the original score WAS in 9/8, as were many subsequent arrangements, but nothing like a slip jig! Just look for any Google images of the score. See: https://www.musicroom.com/stephen-foster-beautiful-dreamer-arr-michael-f-teolis-satb-and-keyboard-hl08763731
Can’t see Yhaal House’s video above - "unavailable".
However, we were trying to play it as a "listening set" in our band for those care home gigs, and we did find it easier to follow as a 3/4 score - Bazza!

And agree with Kenny about "Dance to your Daddy" being in 3/2 timing. "Dusty Miller" in one of the threads above, also gets done in 3/2, though the video of Jock Tamson’s Bairns’ version is indeed in 9/8.

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Thanks for that info, Kenny.

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trish santer: ‘… agree with Kenny about "Dance to your Daddy" being in 3/2 timing. "Dusty Miller" in one of the threads above, also gets done in 3/2’

Buy Broom Besoms, mentioned earlier in the thread, is also 3/2 in all versions I’ve heard. The Dusty Miller exists as a slip jig or hop jig, but I have only ever heard it *sung* in 3/2.

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I didn’t see "The Humours of Whiskey" listed so:

The Humours of Whiskey


(Sorry if someone mentioned it earlier. I only scanned the posts.)