The Phrost is All Over - - - 4 bar second endings…

Alright, so I’m being lazy, but there’s all you egg-spurts out there with, in a few cases, livlier brain cells than mine, at times, and maybe just off the top of your heads you can come up with the tune names and the links. And then there’s all those accumulated hours of trial and experience too, and libraries full of tune collections - a priceless resource.

So, what am I on about this time - something practical? In particular, though not limited, I’m wanting this to be a sharing of tunes with nice long distinct second endings, like 4-bars in the B-part of a 32 bar tune, like "The Frost Is All Over" - or anything akin to that you think might fit the bill.

"The Frost is All Over"

https://thesession.org/tunes/448
https://thesession.org/tunes/977

Morrison’s, of course. https://thesession.org/tunes/71

and

Cliffs of Moher https://thesession.org/tunes/12

Why ever do you need second endings tunes?

Mist covered mountains
https://thesession.org/tunes/256

Mouse in the Cupboard (the way I learned it, not the way it’s shown here)

Rakes of Kildare
https://thesession.org/tunes/84

For dear Zina - They give a great kick up the backside to dancing…for example rounding off the finish of a 32 bar dance and leading into the repeat…and for stepping, a challenge to follow it musically…

What! Are you suggesting that stepdancers actually *listen* to the music while dancing?! My dear fellow, all they do is count — what they’re thinking to themselves is something along the lines of "step double up and turn and flare — oh god, how does the next step start again?!" and they’re too busy to notice the nardy clever second ending…

But I’ll agree that for the most part, second endings change things up agreeably. Even if the dancers don’t know why. :)

There’s always the exception - some of the older ways and dancers I’ve been fortunate to know, and some new and younger dancers too. That is when I take particular notice, when they are listening and not just stepping through, but answering, following, and complementing the rhythm and the melody. Then - WOW! I would say the same of a good bodhran player, though realizing that I’ve just opened that can of worms - as for some the only good bodhran player is a - - -

LOL — ceolachan, I was teasing you.

The slide The Old Favorite has a second ending the way some people play it. Some also play the B part of Out on the Ocean different the second time through, although the differences are in the middle, not the end. I, for one, listen to the tunes while I dance, although my wife tells me that I also count under my breath constantly while dancing.
AL Brown

I like that, I’ve kown some others who count too when they dance, some very good dancers too, but you can tell, sometimes it is a blank look and an ever so subtle nodding - or even blinking.

I know "The Old Favourite" with a 2-bar second ending, but would be interested to know the 4-bar variant. Maybe you could post it in the notes to that tune, including the 4-bar variant of "Out on the Ocean"?

The Tar Road to Sligo
https://thesession.org/tunes/151

"The Old Favourite" -
https://thesession.org/tunes/56

I have also played this slide different than given above - with the B-part ending the second time through with the same last four bars as the A-part. Is that the way you meant?

I have also played "Out on the Ocean" where the only change is with the 4th bar of the B-part…low the first time through, and then high the second time… Is that what you were remembering? I’ll give that variant in the ‘comments’…

"Out on the Ocean"
https://thesession.org/tunes/108

"Wallop the Potlid" / "The Mouse in the Cupboard"
- in the comments, courtesy of ‘grego’…
https://thesession.org/tunes/1454

Hand me down the tackle

https://thesession.org/tunes/800

I wrote a tune that does this: https://thesession.org/tunes/3173

Does that count?

Cherish the ladies (5 part) alt endings more than once
Strayaway child (likewise)
Gold ring (7/8 part versions)

Bx

Stepdancers do listen actually!

I’ve played thousands of tunes for them, and with many players, not solo, and for many teachers, and you would be off this planet to think that all they do is count!

Brianx

Yes, of course ‘old’ friend…and to repeat with the name:

"The Green Bridge" - by Jack Gilder
https://thesession.org/tunes/3173

Cherish the Ladies - 5-parts
https://thesession.org/tunes/590

The Strayaway Child - 6-parts
https://thesession.org/tunes/134

??? -
The Gold Ring - 5-7/8? parts
https://thesession.org/tunes/37 - 6-part
https://thesession.org/tunes/1351 - 4-part
https://thesession.org/tunes/1371 - 5-part

O’Neill’s = 7-parts & ABCs given in the ‘comments’ to #s 37 & 1371 given above.

It would be great, on both counts, to see the 8-part, or 8th part for this tune on site, as well as any distinct 4-part second endings for it.

- hmmmmmm, counting to 10 without phrasing…

A Pride of Ignorance
https://thesession.org/tunes/4630

Slide ~ Julia Clifford
https://thesession.org/tunes/5162

Slide ~ Damned if I Know
https://thesession.org/tunes/5156

Jig ~ All in Good Time - by Kevin Burke
https://thesession.org/tunes/3986

Cornelius Curtin’s Big Balloon
https://thesession.org/tunes/821

Taoing the Mark ~ ‘c’
https://thesession.org/tunes/3898

Doberman’s Wallet ~ Frankie Gavin
https://thesession.org/tunes/3965

Lady Mondagreen — Junji Shirota
https://thesession.org/tunes/3054

I must have a thing for 4-bar second endings. When Junji showed me this tune I suggested the 4-ber ending, and he liked it.

The Pipe On The Hob (Seamus Ennis)
https://thesession.org/tunes/1049

A particular setting of Quilty Shore (appears in comments) https://thesession.org/tunes/3437. Both versions get played at our session, but I prefer the 2nd ending one.

"Buddy MacMaster’s Jig" / "A Buddy MacMaster Jig"
https://thesession.org/tunes/6539

"Kathleen’s Favourite Jig" ~ by Dan Hughie MacEachern
Key signature: G Major (& F)
Submitted on March 18th 2007 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/6957

"Glasgow’s Passion For Fashion" jig
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on March 18th 2007 by Ptarmigan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/6963

"Haley’s Jig"
Key signature: E Dorian
Submitted on August 26th 2002 by Mandolman.
https://thesession.org/tunes/925

"The Accidental Tourist" ~ a jig
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on July 24th 2007 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7536

"Sauerkraut, Wurst Und Kartoffelbrei"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on September 28th 2007 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7786

“Fraser’s Jig”
C: Dan Hughie MacEachern
Key signature: G Mixolydian
Submitted on February 2nd 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8206

"Rosebud" ~ a slide
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on December 23rd 2005 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/5343

I almost missed that… The list is growing…

"The Macroom Highland Fling"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on March 20th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8363

"Paddy On The Binge"
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on January 16th 2007 by f.pellerin.
https://thesession.org/tunes/6649/comments

"Follies Sean Nos"
Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on April 25th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8480

"The Humours Of Bantry"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8328

"A Quantum Singularity"
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on June 11th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8612

Apples in Winter

"Apples In Winter" ~ jig
Key signature: E Dorian
Submitted on September 29th 2001 by Mad Baloney.
https://thesession.org/tunes/299

I can’t believe I missed that one… Thanks Will…

"By Way of the Dow" / "By Way of the Tao" ~ jig
Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on June 22nd 2008 by you.
https://thesession.org/tunes/8649

"Ye Buddin’/Bloody Bodhranistas" ~ jig
Key signature: D Major
C: Submitted on October 20th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/9020

"Kitty Séan’s Barndance" ~ in the comments! ;-)
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on November 2nd 2008 by slainte.
https://thesession.org/tunes/9048/comments

"Obamas In The White House"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on November 6th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/9059

"The Burning Brakes" ~ jig
C: Paddy O’Brien
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on November 5th 2008 by jakep.
https://thesession.org/tunes/9058

"Chalk Sunday"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on November 14th 2008 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/9081

This is a common change where the last 4-bars that make up the B-part’s second ending are the same as those for the A-part. This is very common, for example amongst hornpipes…

"Emily’s Gigue"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on February 10th 2010 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/10257

"My Friend Buddy"
Key signature: Fmajor
Submitted on February 11th 2010 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/10259

Port Chuilinn
Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on August 12th 2007 by usedbullfrog.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7600

"A Jig For Sarah"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on November 18th 2009 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/10035

"The Martin House" ~ jig
Submitted on March 21st 2011 by ceolachan ~ C:
https://thesession.org/tunes/11139/comments

"The Ceilidh House Jig"
Submitted on January 23rd 2012 by ceolachan. ~ C:
https://thesession.org/tunes/11722

"The Frieze Breeches" ~ the 5-part version of the jig, the 5th part
Submitted on May 21st 2001 by Jeremy.
https://thesession.org/tunes/34

"Danmed if I Know" / "None Of Your Damned Business" - slide
Submitted on November 5th 2005 by (& C:) ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/5156

"Rolling Off The/A Log" ~ jig
Submitted on October 7th 2012 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12215

"A Jig For Jack" ~ slide / single jig
Submitted on October 30th 2012 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12271

"Jackson’s Rum Punch/Toddy" - jig
Submitted on November 4th 2012 by slainte.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12282
https://thesession.org/tunes/12282/comments

"Murphy’s Weather Eye" ~ jig
Submitted on December 1st 2012 by Kevin Rietmann.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12333

"The Bailiff Arriving In Town" ~ polka
Submitted on December 1st 2012 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12332

"Jerry Holland’s" ~ jig
Submitted on November 29th 2012 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/12327