A letter from Seamus Tansey


A letter from Seamus Tansey

I was quite shocked to find posted on another forum a copy of a letter that Seamus Tansey sent to young box player Sharon Langston. I must admit I don’t know much about Seamus Tansey although I have had the pleasure of playing a couple of sessions with Sharon a few years back.

The letter followed an incident on the night of the All Ireland football final in Dublin.

On the night of the final, Sharon was playing in The Merchant Hotel in Dublin, aka Ned O’Shea’s. Sharon had gone to Australia and taught music with Comhaltas. She is, in her own right, a well established and respected performer and is still in her early 20’s.

She was booked to play with a guitar player, and did not expect Seamus Tansey to be playing with her. When Tansey came up on stage, he admitted that he could not tune with the other instruments properly because of the level of noise in the room.

After the first tune was played, Sharon Langston told Seamus that he was flat. He tried to tune his instrument, and played another tune, whereupon Ms Langston said he was still flat. At this point, Tansey left the stage and forfeited his night’s wages.

Weeks later, angry about this, he wrote the following letter to Sharon Langston.

Tansey expected the letter to be kept private, but said to Paul(her dad) that if he wanted to read it out to the country, he would leave it entirely up to him.

So he had it read out on a national radio programme!!

What followed speaks for itself. Here is the letter.(the language has been censored to comply with this forums protocol)

Regarding the night we met in Ned O’Shea’s, there is something I would like to point out to you. As regards to tuning an instrument, is that I have been playing the flute since 1960, 44 years, and never in all that time did anyone ever tell me how to tune it except one before yourself. She was a young girl too, just like you; pompous, abrasive, self-centred, egotistical. And I gave her short shift and left her in tears. The same thing would have happened to you on that Sunday night only you were surrounded by Kerry supporters and your boyfriend’s minders.

Now, I was disappointed in Kerry’s finest hour that you wouldn’t play some Kerry music, Kerry slides or Kerry Polkas. Perhaps you thought they were not traditional. Well, they’re not. Authentically, they all came in from Scotland. But they would have been more authentic, and over the years it is more Irish now than what you are playing on that accordion of yours.

Because what you are playing is mixture of bluegrass, Appalachian, Scots, classical, Breton, Brittanic - Celt and other mongrel sounds that have nothing to do with Irish traditional music at all.

I notice that your right hand is quite good technically, but your left fingers touching the basses are like milking the tits on a bull, which have no substance to the music whatsoever, because we can’t hear them, and therefore they are of no use to the overall sound. Hence all we have is a glorified melodeon player, which is what you are. And it has come to inflict itself on the Irish traditional music world once again.

In County Sligo in the old times, we called melodeon players the grunt and groan merchants. And on a bad night of music we always said “It was f*****g melodeon.” Coleman said, - and I am sure you have probably never heard of Michael Coleman, the greatest traditional fiddle player of all time, from Co. Sligo, - When they were collecting for a dead melodeon player in America, “Here’s five dollars to bury him, and here’s another five to bury the f*****g melodeon with him.”

You think you are God’s gift. Well, you are not. You are only a copy cat, and a medium one at that. You have a long way to go. Another thing I want to point out to you about concert pitches. The night before I met you in Ned O’Shea’s I was playing in Clare. There I was playing with a Russian lady who has a degree from the orchestra of Stalingrad, once known as Leningrad. She played the keyboard, I tuned with her, and had no problem getting concert pitch with her. So what is the f*****g matter with you?

Now, you only come from f*****g Killorglin in the Co. Kerry, and their only notoriety is King Puck. Perhaps you should play there and give us all a break. I would have to put the flute so far out of joint, and I still would not be in tune with you. So perhaps you should get that f******g melodeon of yours tuned in proper concert pitch, and give our heads peace.

I mean in concert pitch, and not go around annoying saying “You’re flat” or “out of tune” and you will make yourself an awful lot more friends.

Now, as far as I am concerned, you are a self-opinionated, pompous, self-centred little bitch who wants to get to the top quickly and is greedy for money. You wouldn’t be playing that melodeon, or Irish music at all, if it wasn’t for the money to be made out of it. Like a lot of your generation, you’d just as soon be playing rock, jazz or the Beatles. Well, why the hell don’t you go back to it, and give Irish traditional musicians, who fought to keep it alive over the generations, a f*****g break, and f**k off out of it. Keep out of Irish traditional music. You are poisoning the well.

You probably think this is a pretty nasty letter, and it is meant to be because you did me out of a night’s wages. And anybody who takes the bit out of my mouth, or crosses my path the way you did, can expect nothing else.
Seamus Tansey"

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Mike, do you still get your newspaper by horse and buggy or what?

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HAHA
I heard about this the other night in a session, every one was laughing, I think its awfully abrasive myself.

I think Tansey is a good musician - but thats all.
And once again I hate this whole “Michael Coleman said this bla bla bla…” who cares?

I think his views are valid, and understandable, but I think they are delivered in a primitive, and puristic sense, and he has no idea how to address a lady properly.(that bits for my ma)

I have to say though I would pay money to see him wriite something on this site, to some of the things that are said here!!!!

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Ahh hso what…JJ and Kerri…
Some others mightned have read it - skip over it

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He’s old=grumpy

Q.E.D

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Stefan, I wasn’t having a go at Mike! I just thought he might have been interested in what we thought about the subject the last time.
Kerri was obviously being a bit cheeky but I’m sure it was just meant in jest.

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Actually, I never read the letter (until now). Poor Seamus must be awfully embarassed.

I got a letter like that once. It made me laugh at first, but then I felt awfully sorry for the poor girl because she’d given me enough power and significance in her life to get her all enraged but I barely even knew who she was. It must be some kind of mental illness. We shouldn’t pick on nasty people. We don’t pick on retarded or crippled people any more. How is it that nasty people got left behind in this enlightened movement of tolerance, forbearance, and the healing miracle of pussy-footing around the obvious?

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(oh, and yeah, of COURSE I was being cheeky. Am I ever NOT being cheeky?)

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OK john J,
just know that anybody who takes the bit out of my mouth, or crosses my path the way you did…………………..

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Kerry
“All that it takes for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing”. Thats why we must take the fight to nasty bast*£ds. Why do you think i hang around with bodhran bliss…..i’m trying to convert him, go on BB sing that wee song of yours…..

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I don’t know what you mean there, Stefan. Hope you’re not bearing grudges about light hearted comments in a previous thread? That would be a shame.

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HAHAHAHAH

John, I dont know how to bear grudges….look at the end of Tanseys letter!!! I was jesting!

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Quick question, Didn’t Tansey say that bouzouki’s and guitars were “poisoning the well of Irish music” recently? - it was on the radio so it could have been someone else…

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I thought it was drunken musicians staggering down the street who just can’t hold it until they make it back home who are poisoning the well of irish music.

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“If I ruled the World, what a nasty little b####d I’d be, there would be no living with me, If I ruled the World”.

Did you mean that one, although the “ragman’s Ball” may well be more appropriate for you, JfiddlerH.

Seamus Tansey is a bit like Alex Higgins, lamenting the lost opportunities and ultimate waste of a talent. Someone else can explain to our colonial friends who Higgins was/is.

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NOW NOW Kerri Im bloddy serious…

Really though - didnt he say this??
Then I was surprised to see him on the Midsummers night sessions dvd with the group playing away, and loving the music.

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Ok, Seamus was a jerk. Any more so than the girl’s father, guy who prosecuted him and made him look foolish? Seamus might have overreacted. But perhaps the girl was arrogant and insensitive. She couldn’t have been much of a whiz at Irish Trad. if she’d never, as she admitted, heard of Seamus Tansey.
Seamus is not just a good miusician-- he’s a great musician. You can’t say Seamus is a waste of talent. You might not like his style and his huffing and his ornamentation, but he’s arguably the most accomplished flute player in Ireland, right up there with McGoldrick, Molloy, Finnegan-- as all of them would attest to.
So leave the big guy alone and go practise fer Christ’s sake.

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Well, consider the possibility you’ve heard of Seamus Tansey because you’re a flute player too. I’d never heard of him before this issue popped up, but I don’t think not being aware of Seamus Tansey makes me a crappy fiddle player. (There are lots of reasons totally unrelated to not being aware of Seamus Tansey that I can blame for being a crappy fiddle player).

I could probably name a couple brilliant fiddlers you’ve never heard of who I consider to be essential meat-and-potatoes traditional educational material, but I wouldn’t go so far as to disparage you and suggest you are ignorant, arrogant and insensitive for never having heard of them.

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Now Cocus!! I think you have misunderstood somewhat - she knew who Tansey was alright.

Great musician he is, but if it had been my daughter he’d written to in that manner, he would have been blowing the flute in D flat permanently from the other end of his whistle!!!

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I do think when you make a conscious choice to release such poison into the world you are just BEGGING the gods to toss it back into your lap. Good for her dad. He did the right thing. I found it rather noble, in fact.

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Kerri, please don’t take it that I’m suggesting you’re ‘ignorant, arrogant and insensitive’ as you put it. And I don’t think Tansey’s position re. this letter is defensible, no matter how much of a little madam the box player was - (I also agree with Mike that SHE did know, of course, and she was being deliberately rude.)
But …
If you play Irish music, which I know is not the only style of music played by people who visit this site, I would have thought you would know who Mr. Tansey was, in the same way you would know who Michael Coleman was, or Seamus Ennis, or Frankie Gavin, or indeed The Bothy Band, or Paddy Killoran, or Padraig O’Keefe, or Johnny Leary. He’s part of the landscape, as it were.
Mark

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Yes Tansey is brilliant,but he’s also a brilliant A##hole.

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Ah well.

I’m sorry I didn’t find the earlier thread already discussing this as I know there would be many people wishing I had.

Thanks for all your comments anyway

He’d be welcome at my session anyday…………………as long as it wasn’t the day the session was actually on!!!!!

Nah I’m kidding ya!!!!!!! 🙂

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Mark, it’s ‘cocusflute’ who suggested Sharon was “arrogant and insensitive”, and “not much of a whiz” for never having heard of Seamus Tansey. Or maybe having heard the name, but forgotten all about it. Or maybe not realizing she was dealing with “the” Seamus Tansey. Or maybe realizing it but not giving a poop.

Believing a person can’t play one instrument if they’ve never heard of somebody else who plays a totally different instrument is a stupefying logical leap. This guy I know, Pascal, is the best fiddle player I’ve ever seen, heard, or met anywhere in the world. You’ve never heard of him. Does that mean you’re a crappy flute player? Of course not.

I can’t help but notice it’s always flute players saying “How can you NEVER have heard of Seamus Tansey?? That’s unthinkable!!!”

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I’ve never heard Seamus Tansey play, though I’ve heard of him. Actually, I’ve heard of him lots, mainly people saying what a foul-mouthed jerk he is (and that was *before* the Sharon Incident). Apparently he knows this and doesn’t care. So I’ll do my best to avoid Seamus Tansey, though i assume sooner or later I’ll listen to him play via recording. Not going out of my way, though.

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Kerri, Zina!!!

Just between us…….the session’s on Thursdays’ you would be more than welcome.


ps Don’t tell Seamus!!

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I’ll be there with bells on, mike.

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Can I wear them on my toes?

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In that case I will too

ok enough sorry!

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have you ever noticed, once the name Seamus Tansey is mentioned on this site, everyone becomes agitated.
In my opinion, this just sums the man up.
I could write a book about the man.

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I aggree L,
Maybe it was Tanseys love child busting up the session I was at last week….

Got the email thanks - Donegal city - what am I like!!!!!
Ull get an email when the time is coming!!

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Kerri, please learn a little bit about ITM and the Irish peoples culture, I can guarantee you that all the great players have heard of or know each other, Sharon Langston and Shamus Tansey are no different. Get a life.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Brilliant! A psychic jackass!

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Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning…

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Somebody call the circus.

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now now kids

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OK, sorry for the outburst, everyone. I will try to control myself in the future.

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oh no!!!

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Alright Kerri, I tried saying it nicely …
but why shouldn’t I have an opinion about Seamus Tansey if I’m a flute player?

as I said:
If you play Irish music, which I know is not the only style of music played by people who visit this site, I would have thought you would know who Mr. Tansey was, in the same way you would know who Michael Coleman was, or Seamus Ennis, or Frankie Gavin, or indeed The Bothy Band, or Paddy Killoran, or Padraig O’Keefe, or Johnny Leary. He’s part of the landscape, as it were.

I don’t see that as contentious in any way, any more than if I said that if you were a British Carp Angler, you would know of Rod Hutchinson, Richard Walker, or Chris Yates. I certainly wouldn’t expect anyone who was not a British Carp Angler to know who they were, but I would be very suprised if anyone who called themselves a carp angler in this part of the world had not heard of them. I would in fact wonder if, indeed, they were carp anglers at all…..
😉

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In all these conversations about this event, people rarely talk about the fact that it was Ned O’Shea that was the culprit, and Tansey should have taken it out of his hide. Sounds like he clearly double booked the act, and put two incompatible musicians together on the same stage without telling either of them. I think they should have called Ned up during the radio program and asked him some point blank questions.

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Good point Jode. And Mark, I’m not sure we’re having the same conversation here. I’m not saying *you shouldn’t* have an opinion about some flute player with an anger management problem, but I feel you are saying *I should*, and that if I don’t, it shows that I haven’t got a clue how to play the fiddle. And I’m ONLY saying that seems like a really wierd attitude to me. Not necessarily wrong, just bizarre.

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Kerri, sorry, I certainly didn’t say anything (that I can see) about your ability to play the fiddle. I AM obliquely taking issue with your suggestion that my interest in Seamus Tansey is simply because I’m a flute player. Seamus Tansey, IMO, is a small, but very interesting part of the Irish musical landscape, much in the manner of Neillidh Boyle, another contentious and frequently irrascible champion of purity, who I,m sure could be the subject of an equally squabblesome thread.

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I had never heard of Mr. Tansey before, as I have not heard of many of the mainstays of the tradition over in Ireland--which is my loss. What you pick up on the radio and in CD stores in the US is more slanted toward the young groups and players. So unless they crossed the pond for Gaelic Roots or to visit the Catskills, there are many giants of the tradition that I have not been exposed to. What amazes me about the letter is that anyone can sustain so much anger that they pour out such a nasty collection of insults. Maybe it is because our egos are so closely engaged with our music, but it seems to me that many musicians get way too wrapped up in conflicts, and lose perspective. In the big scheme of things, if the accordion player does not chose to play in the tradition as Mr. Tansley defines it, that is her business. On the other hand, some amount of respect for those who do keep the tradition is called for as well. Like Jode says, putting these two people on the stage together seems to be the recipe for disaster.

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Sheesh, I don’t know what’s going on any more, Mark. I was talking to that other guy, then suddenly you were talking to me, then I was trying to explain that I was talking to the other guy, THEN I was talking to you, and all I’ve ever wanted to express is that flute players are more likely to be well informed about other flute players than, say, pipers, fiddlers, guitar or accordion players. That just seems like common sense to me and I’m still baffled if you can’t see it yourself.

And anything I’m saying with regards to the relationship between being familiar with Seamus Tansey’s music and being a competent trad musician is directed at the other guy, who said “she couldn’t be much of a whiz at irish trad if she’d never heard of Seamus Tansey.”

In my opinion, a person could grow up in a godforsaken shack in the middle of the Connemara without a radio and with no way to pass the time but sit around with her aunts and uncles who nobody’s ever heard of swapping tchunes and be a more than competent ITM musician. What does Seamus Tansey have to do with anything? He’s just one guy, and a nasty one at that.

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Yes, dear old Neillidh Boyle. How’s this for a quotation:

“The bagpipes are all right for playing the reels and the jigs. But not so with the airs. It’s impossible for a piper, no matter how good he is, to play an air on the pipes because the pipes are not a perfect instrument. They are not adapted for air playing, but only for reels and jigs and marches, and fast music of that kind. I never yet heard a piper, playing an air, that had any effect on me. It seems to be a drone, a sad wail, without any expression. Not so with the fiddle. The fiddle can take out anything that’s wanted - if the player has the command and the power to do so, the fiddle will respond. But the pipes won’t - that’s what’s wrong.”

Like Tansey, though, an extraordinary player - well worth hearing.

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The situation was set up for problems. Musicians need to know who they will be playing with and have the accommodation to tune before playing. Very sorry to hear about the letter.

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lol, Ed. I’m getting SUCH an education in who to avoid on this thread.

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Just saw three kids out in the street. One of them was playing soccer, but had never heard of Puskas. One was on a bike but didn’t know who Lance Armstrong was, and the other had a baseball glove but hadn’t heard of Derek Jader. So I immediately curled my lip in a sneer and dismissed them as being useless. What a load of twaddle.

ITM is not a specialist subject for quizzes, it is music. You don’t need to have heard of anyone. I never heard of John Joe Kelly to this week and I claim to play the bodhran. Truth is, many of us play the music, work, have other hobbies, and don’t feel the need to immerse ourselves into the “who’s who” of ITM. Ireland is full of brilliant players who nobody is ever going to hear off, except in their own locality. I honestly believe that I played in two groups with better banjo players than Gerry O‘Connor, sorry don’t like making comparisons, as good as G.O’Connor but most people would never have heard of them. Just because you are famous doesn’t make you a better player.

Django Reinherdt, Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Clapton and yes, even ELVIS, none of them could play a bodhran as good as me.

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Yes, BB, but Mr Tansey is a very colourful figure who I would have thought it very hard to avoid hearing about unless you’ve spent your life locked up in Kerri’s shack in Connemara. No-one said anything about ANYONE being useless, as far as I can remember! I think there was only one person above who suggested that “she couldn’t be much of a whiz at irish trad if she’d never heard of Seamus Tansey.” Which is a bit of a silly statement …. especially as I think she had heard of him, and knew exactly which button to press to drive him into a fury.
However, if you are saying that music can exist in a cultural vacuum (‘it is music. You don’t need to have heard of anyone’), I think you are sadly mistaken - And of course famous people aren’t necessarily the best players, all I said is that they are famous, and people have heard of them (otherwise one could hardly label them ‘famous’).
And Sorry again Kerri, those threads above did get a bit tangled up(!) Please don’t put me on your list of people to avoid.

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I’d never do such a thing, Mark.

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You know, I’m thinking the list of excellent musicians I HAVE heard of is as long as my arm, but I’ve been lucky enough to have met umpteen excellent musicians in my life. Most of them aren’t famous. My CD shelves are stocked with the albums of people I know and have played with or taken classes from. I don’t actively seek out information on “celebrity trad musicians” (there’s an oxymoron) and I probably never will, even if I play another 40 years and get very, very good. So yeah, it’s totally conceivable to me that great trad players might not have heard of other great trad players, or that they might not recognize them on sight.

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Seamus Tansey
Neillidh Boyle
Mussolini
and
Ottery
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LOL -- uh…sure, Mark, now there’s a list of Sesame Street proportions…as in, “one of these things, is not like the other…”

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You’ve a guilty conscience Ottery, I was getting at Cocusflute.

I played with Tansey. He never said anything to me.

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I once met and played with Tansey. Once of the nicest, most helpful and encouraging musicians I have ever met. Can’t defend that letter, but he’s still in my ‘good guy’ book! His book’s a good read too. And not forgetting THAT version of ‘Paddy Ryan’s Dream’!

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Zina, you mean I’m worse than Mussolini?
Sorry BB, I have sinned ……
Sharon, you played with Lucy Farr? I was playing on Sunday at what might be the last session at the Potkiln (Just Jerry, myself and Dave, the brewer, on guitar), where she played when she lived in Thatcham. I never met her, but Rowley, the previous landlord I think, who played with her on a tape she released, was there and borrowed Jerry’s fiddle and gave us a couple of tunes. The ‘Potty’’ has had music of at least a vaguely Irish nature continually, right up to now, but the landlord and his wife, Phil and Linda are retiring, and there is talk of restaurants and redevelopment in the air. An era over, I suspect.

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Well, here in my isolated shack in Co. Schenectady I still receive my IP packets by carrier pigeon, so this is the first I’ve heard of this particular letter.

I must say I am shocked and dismayed by its content and if Seamus is any sort of a man at all he must be absolutely humiliated by its being made public.

I mean, really, saying that Stalingrad was once known as Leningrad, when they are, and always have been, two entirely seperate cities?

Me mum was in Leningrad as a photojournalist the day they changed the name back to St. Petersburg, so she knows this too, and she doesn’t even play music at all, so I find it hard to believe that Seamus ever really played with a woman from Russia, let alone one with a degree from an. . .orchestra?

With a gaff like that last one I find it hard to believe he even plays music and he must be mortified that this secret has finally been revealed to the world.

KFG

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How many of you have actually met Seamus?

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me. Seamus used to teach me and my brother. he lives in my town. I went on tour with him a few years ago (unforgetable experience)
dont get me wrong, he’s a great flute player, just with a very eccentric personality. He’s not the best choice for doing a stage gig with!
Eccentric- is that the word? erm, not sure. I’m trying to be nice about the man for a change!!
As for the letters - Seamus has a habit of writing very harsh letters like this. I myself have read quite a few of the ones he’s sent over the years, to young and old in my town. Shocking, but hilarious. Tansey definatley has the gift of the gab!!

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I guess thats settled then Leftheris!

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I’m of two minds when it comes to Tansey. Okay, so he’s a git. But he makes things EXTREMELY interesting.

Listening to his playing, there’s no questioning the fact that he’s a ruddy amazing player. Not a fan of piano accompaniment, so I can’t say I really *enjoy* (in the idle sense) his albums - but I still play his tracks over and over, listening to his version of tunes and his finger flickflacks - same as I do with many other flute players.

And as far as his character goes… his orneriness, stubborness, cantererous demeanour, scowlish upsetting of the unoffending, over-polite status quo… well, I think it’s just splendid.

He’s an Ignatius J Reilly in a confederacy of irish musicians, god bless ’im.

Sure, those who have personal run-ins with the man deserve to be treated better and all that, but… and I’m not entirely sure how risque this angle on the affair is.. I’d say the paradox of Tansey, the talented jerk, makes the tiny little subculture we share that much richer.

I mean, would you rather hear - or tell - the story of the really good flute player who was perfectly civil to a young accordianist - even though she hadn’t a clue who he was, or the story of the slightly insane fluter, who - in between sticking his head into hedges to listen to birds, hedgehogs and frogs in order to find the true essence of the music - made such a stink over the lass’s unintended slight that he caused a relative tidal wave of debate on national Irish radio - and message boards, mailing lists and newsgroups?

He’s a legend. And I think our community would be the poorer without him.

By the way, anyone read his, er, let’s just call it “meandering” contribution to the ’96 Crosbhealach an Cheoil? Can anyone explain it to me? 🙂 🙂

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cantankerous, not cantererous

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I used to see Séamus near enough every week when he lived in Belfast and was gigging with the McPeakes. I must talk to Francis to remind me of some of his “episodes”. Hilarious, right enough, but mad as a hatter. Mind you, he’s not the only prolific letter writer in Irish music; a certain doyen of fiddle players has a similar reputation. I’ve seen one of his and it was pretty bilious.

I’m glad there are characters like this around but I wouldn’t like to get on the wrong side of them. When they’re gone there’s no doubt they’ll be missed.

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I heard he was bipolar. Maybe bear that in mind before mounting any moral high horse, please.

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I didn’t see much of anyone mounting a moral high horse, Danny… Looking through this thread, it’s really quite sympathetic to the old curmudgeon!

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2 so far then Stefan.

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You’re mostly right, Helen. But some expressed shock etc., which is easy if you don’t know the whole picture.

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Well, it *is* quite shocking behaviour! Just because there’s an underlying problem which might make him behave that way, doesn’t make it reasonable or acceptable, does it? Expressing a negative view of that behaviour isn’t the same as mounting a moral high horse. Otherwise, what right does any of us have to state an opinion about anything? You can be as ferociously critical as anyone else here, on occasion - but we don’t know ‘the whole picture’ about our fellow posters, do we? We tend to expect everyone to observe a general code of civilised behaviour, whatever their neurological glitches might be…

By the way, I was just thinking about your moniker ‘Pingu’ and realised that ‘penguin’ is probably the only world-wide example of Welsh; ‘pen gwyn’, meaning ‘white head’. A propos of nothing, sorry… just meandering… 🙂

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Apart from those other words borrowed from Welsh - ‘ambiwlans’ and ‘teleffon’…
… only joking (before someone drags out the OED…)

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lol
Nell you’re reminding me of that Rowan Atkinson song, “That’s why I hate the French”

One of the lines goes: “They even steal from us the words they lack - le weekend, le camping and cul de sac”

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and ‘flipper’, ‘le shampooing’, and ‘le foot’ are favourites of mine. Mind you, we nick whole phrases from them - ‘joie de vivre’, ‘je ne sais quoi’, ‘objet d’art’, etc etc. Tit for tat, hey?

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Thanks, Helen, you’ve made my day…

from Old White Head.


BTW, isn’t ysbydy hospital in Welsh?

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Jouez les tunes: C‘est cool! C’est fun! (At least this is how french works in Quebec, ’sti.)

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Ysbyty, I think it is, Hen Pen Gwyn.
Oueh, c‘est cool, c’est fun, c’est super-hyper-chouette!!

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qui a hijacke cette discussion?

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hijacké, cath, it’s passé composé!
mm

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Je pense que t‘a oublié l’accent sur “hijacké”.

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Ooh, beat me to it maarten.

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OK if I’m Pen Gwyn, is it possible you’re my long lost relative Nell Gwyn?

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Criticism well founded - I could never be @ssed with accents, which is why I much much prefer the English language.

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Yes, there are two sources of concern here, the letter itself and the letter going public. Going public seems to imply a wish to damage the rep of the other person. I can understand Seamus needing to save face, but that was an ugly public letter. I hate to see something that should be so enjoyable as ITM or music in general generate this type of ill will.

The Penguin family? I just had the experience of telling a student that the favorite food of White Sharks was the Penguins. His jaw dropped in horror. “You mean those people that live in igloos?” Well, don’t invite the shark family over for dinner.

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Yes that’s quite a hijack, but those knitted penguins are so cute!!!!!!!!!!!! (aaargh)
Miaoist cat I do love.

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Nell: I can’t think of Penguins and not think of Monty Python. They did a Penguin skit where scientists were giving them standardized IQ tests. I believe they came out with the toy exploding Penguin. 😉

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Tansey is not the full shilling and anything he does should be viewed with that knowledge. Great musician though.

I doubt if Sharon’s father knew the whole story he would have read that letter over the airwaves. If he didn’t though, it would be hard to blame him after reading a letter like that to his daughter.
Tansey apparanty is barred from a lot of pubs in the country and I believe there are a lot of people in Sligo looking to “meet” him as result of his letter/book writing.

I agree with the point that O’Sheas were a bit on the irresponsible side.

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“I agree with the point that O’Sheas were a bit on the irresponsible side.”

They should know better than to try to get milk from a bull. 😉

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There was documentary about Tansey on RTE (Irish television) soon after that “fun” on the Joe Duffy show, he was pelading for guitarists to just play the three chords and not use the any of the jazzy chords offering Am7 as an example !

Then he let out the scariest gawfaw, similar to the type you write Jack.

Mwwahhhhhahhh

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“Then he let out the scariest gawfaw, similar to the type you write Jack.”

Oh right! (rolling eyes)

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Q said “By the way, anyone read his, er, let’s just call it ”meandering“ contribution to the ’96 Crosbhealach an Cheoil? Can anyone explain it to me? ” - It’s a long time since I read this but I do remember quite a bit of logic in his argument. Things like the universality of traditional music and the similarity between chinese tunes and sean-nós songs from Connemara. His explanation centred on the sound of bird songs and the galloping of wild horses on the plains hundreds and even thousands of years ago - something which would be experienced by human beings throughout the world! Maybe he has a point. There’s no doubt but that his music is something else but his ravings are highly amusing unless they’re directed at someone you know or respect. Maybe we can put it down to that old adage about the closeness of madness and genius!!

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Way late to do this. Yes, I said she couldnt have been much of a whiz at Ir Trad if she’d never heard of Tansey. And she said she’d never heard of him.
I don’t play much fiddle but I’ve certainly heard of Tommy Peoples and Frankie Gavin. Nor pipes but I have heard of Paddy K and Ronan B. Nor button accordion but I have heard of Jackie and Martin, etc etc,
Tansey is right up there. So I’ll say it again. Not knowing who he is shows a certain ignorance of the contemporary traditional music landscape. Understandable perhaps if you’re from Cleveland. But not if you’re a musician from Kerry.

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Don’t worry, after Tansey’s letter to her he’ll be even more well known. Even with people who could care less about ITM. His name lives in infamy now.

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She deserved that letter. Tansey won a senior all Ireland I think he knows how to tune a fecking flute. For somebody to tell such a man that his flute is out of tune clearly knows feck all about Irish traditional music. As he wrote on the letter I think she is a greedy little bitch for money and doesn’t have any love for Irish music at all.

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I know Seamus Tansey very well. He has taught two of my children and a number of my friends children. where we come from people respect their elders especially someone as brilliant as Seamus Tansy. He never makes little of anyones playing no matter how bad they play. He is very patient and really wants to pass his love of music on. I agree that a number of young musicians think they are better than they are and this is defently reflected on what they try to charge for lessons. Perhaps the next time this young lady will just have the maners to keep her opinion to herself and then she wont get a nasty letter.

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Seamus is an amazing player, it was the other wee girl’s fault.

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I don,t think it was.
any musician could have said the same thing to Seamus Tansey, about the sound of the flute.
there was no need to write an offensive letter to her.
she could have taken legal action, if she wanted to, because sending an abusive letter to someone, is against the law.
she was a mighty woman to take the matter to the Joe Duffy show.