Hello all practioners of Irish music. I’ve been playing a very wide variety of music over the years and have seen the influence of Irish music in so many other types of music. A prime example is the Irish undercurrent found in a rather large number of blue grass tunes. Any one with more input please share with us all.
africa
if you are interested in music? Play it.
If you are interested in history? Africa
North Africa, you can nearly pin it down to Tunisia.
Tunisia -- isn’t that what you have if you forget to tune up?
Michael, read newfie’s bio before you tease him!
Hey Michael keep the nonsense coming!!
God help us all if we get too serious here!
After all, aren’t we always harping on here about trying to keep our sessions fun places. So let’s keep this session a fun place too.
I mean to say, just imagine a quiet moment at your own session next week, and then someone turns to the company and asks “Hey guys, what do you think about the influence of Irish Music on a Global scale then?”
Let’s face it, would it not take at least five minutes for all the laughter to die down?
Sorry Newfie, please don’t let me put you off asking questions.
I wasn’t trying to get at you, just trying to get under the skin of yon pompous character ‘jim troy’!
OK jim, I hear you. Outside the school gates at 3.30? That’s fine by me!
By the way Newfie, I just love that mouth watering image of Currents in Blue Grass!!
Oh dear.
This is just what I was afraid would happen.
“. . .the Irish undercurrent found in a rather large number of blue grass tunes.”
These days will be remembered by America’s noble sons.
If it hadn’ta been fer Irishmen what would yer union done?
Hand to hand we fought ’em, all in the burning sun.
Stripped to the pants, we did advance, at the Battle of Bull Run.
Ah, and who woulda thunk that a backwater British colony that every undesirable in the Empire was free, nay, encouraged to go to without leave or hindrence that started formally issuing hunting permits on Redcoats would gather a bit more than its fair share of Irishmen?
Speaking of The Empire, it is through that selfsame agency that the modern format of popular song was introduced to the world, to wit; rhyming verse in a verse:chorus:verse chorus:verse:chorus structure.
But the English learned that particular bit of musical structure from the Irish.
Therefore, one of the influences of Irish music on a global scale is the, ummmmm, “music” of The Archies and Britney Spears.
Oops. They’ve done it again, Sugar, Sugar.
I think the Irish have a lot to answer for.
KFG
Careful, Jim - “Ptarmigan” is a black-belt in “Su-doku”.
KFG, do you have any more verses to that ?
Back to the original question - of course there’s an influence, it’s a direct progression;
Scots and Irish migrated to the Appalachians, the music evolved in its own ways in isolation, into Old-Timey, then to Bluegrass.
And, no, no, not Africa, India.
Everything is Indian.
Superman is Indian - where else can you run faster than a speeding train ? ( I have to pay copyright on that joke ).
Oh God, I wish GP. You should hear it sung. It’s a real blood stirrer. Dave Bromberg uses it to introduce Paddy on the Turnpike on one of his earlier records.
It was collected from Frank Proffitt. The same man who gave us Tom Dooley. He remembers his father singing it when he was a child, and it had a number of verses, but that was all of it he can recall. No other source has ever turned up.
“. . .where else can you run faster than a speeding train ?”
Dunno, but on Long Island I can outrun a Ferrari.
KFG
OK Jim, I suppose with a name like TROY I shouldn’t be surprised that you are the confrontational type.
I am fascinated to see what youre choice of weapons will be!
Out of tune banjos (Is there any other kind?)
Or perhaps Piano Accordions - with the silencers removed!!
As for the altitude being 5,000 paces - don’t you mean Metres, or perhaps we could duel at 5,000 Fathoms, with dead fish? -
(I’ll come back to you on the calibre of fish!)
Now, excuse me while I get back to my Soonagi!
( Yes, I watched Friends - once! )
So which came first Waxie’s Dargle or Brighton’s Camp? (Same Tune)
So the Scots put on skirts and marched out to do war playing bagpipes under the idea that they would scare the h^ll out of the enemy,
The English put on silly red blouses and marched out playing fifes, assumedly to annoy the p^ss out of the enemy.
If Waxies Dargle was an Irish tune, as has been claimed: then Ireland was to England as Greece was to Rome. The Brits take this bit of Irish Culture and march it Globally, and they publish a set of sweet sentimental lyrics. Then, every country that ever was a part of the Empire now has at least one silly song to that music. I have heard “the Intoxicated Rat” , She Looked So Fair in the Midnight Air“, yea, and ”Waxies Dargle“ but I’ve never heard anybody sing ”The Girl I left Behind Me".
Between MG’s turdbombs and jim troy’s hyper - reaction’s, the yellowboard reminds me of a family reunion. I love you guys *sniff* B)
Talking about spreading Irish culture, how about when Sean Connery and Michael Caine tried to become Afghan warlords in the Man Who Would Be King--singing The Minstrel Boy before they met their hideous fate. But they didn’t sing it with proper Irish lyrics, instead, the words were some rubbish about subjugating 3rd world nations, spreading the Empire, or something to that affect.