Kitty Lie Over

By Mick O’Brien And Caoimhín Ó Raghallaigh

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Kitty Lie Over

Lovely unaccompanied recording of pipe and fiddle duet by Mick O’Brien and Caoimh

I forgot to mention that there are some whistle tracks, including duets, in this album, and the sleeve notes by Caoimh

One of my favourite albums this year.

Some stately, solid playing and music that’s as pure as was ever intended.

wonderful album, flat pipes and fiddle, has climberd to the top of my iPod listening list

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Title track

Note that the title track "Kitty Lie Over" is not the "Frost Is All Over" given here. It’s quite similar to the Kilfenora Jig #1 given on the site.

I agree, the album is extremely fine. Mick is the top of his class, and every bit as complex and lovely a player live as on recording.

Oops, it seems Kevin O’Reilly originally comes from Dublin. He plays in a lovely Sliabh Luachra style, nonetheless. Have a look at their website:

(Oh no, Kevin is of the same age as me.)

An Londubh

Just spotted that second tune in this set is "Donald Blue", as also featured on McGoldrick and McSherry’s "At First Light".

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Yes, that’s "Donald Blue," but not the original Shetland version.

They played at Bantry House this past summer, and I, as one of the students from the workshops during the week, was asked to perform a few tunes with Caoimhin, joined by Martin Hayes and Denis Cahill!!

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Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

I love this recording, and among all the gems on it, I particularly enjoy the #11 track.

And I love to play the recording for friends, to share this wonderful performance.

But each and every time I do, someone says, ‘But that’s not really ‘The Blackbird,’ that one goes like this…’ etc., etc., and I get really tired of having to have that discussion each time.

I suppose I could say that I don’t know what it’s called, it’s just #11 on the "Kitty Lie Over" CD… Somehow that doesn’t do it for me…

So please, with great respect and gratitude to Mick O’Brien and Caoimhín Ó Raghallaigh, what is this tune, really?

Alternatively, is there another short or simple way to address, dismiss or circumvent that ‘no, it’s not really An Londubh…’ discussion?

Many thanks,


Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

You mean the first tune on that track or the second one?
Not that I have any better idea than you. At our session we call both those tunes "An Londubh" while making little quotation marks in the air with our fingers.

Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

I believe the tune you’re referring to is their version of one of the Blackbird hornpipes. This is the version recorded by Angelina Carberry and Martin Quinn, with the Kitty Lie Over version posted in the comments section.

It’s very similar, if not identical to the hornpipe "The Stranger," as played by Elizabeth Crotty:

Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

Wasn’t this also recorded by The Bothy Band, played by Paddy Keenan after the air of the same name (on which it is based)?

Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

The sleeve notes, as I recall off the top of me head, note it as Dermot Diamond’s setting of the Blackbird. In any case, I’ve always insisted that there is in fact no tune called ‘the Blackbird’ - it’s really just this musical idea that strikes the whimsy of certain musicians at certain times, resulting in this whole sub-genre of Irish music whirling about the crux of this little avian enigma.


Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

NCRC—yes it is very similar to the reel version at the end of that Bothy Band set.

Re: Kitty Lie Over, tune #11 ?

Dan the Man - There is very definitely an air (presumably with words) called The Blackbird, and I believe all the dance tunes known by that name are derived from it.

Then again, I like your idea. The two theories need not be mutually exclusive.

Please ignore my transcription, and look for the one done by Mr. "Cheshire" instead.

Track 2

The 2nd tune in track 2 is Hickey’s but not the one that you get if you follow the hyperlink. I think that this version is at least close (although MIck and Caoimhin throw in some nice little twists):

X: 081220
T: Hickey’s (a)
S: "Johnny O’Leary of Sliabh Luachra" (#337)
Z: B.Black
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
R: reel
K: D
(3ABc|d2 cA BE E2|(3FED AD FDFA|fded BE E2|(3Bcd ed cGBc|
d2 cA BEEE|FDAD FDFA|dfed BE E2|(3Bcd ed cA||
(3B=c^c|dzfd adfd|fded BA (3FGA|dzfd adfd|Beed BA (3FGA|
d2 fd c2 ec|BA (3B=c^c eB (3BcB|ABde fdAF|G4 ||

I got it from:
(JC’s tune finder led me to it)

You will need to tune down two whole steps or adjust the pitch of the recording up two whole steps to play along, as they are playing in B-flat.

Kitty Lie Over follow-up due soon !!!!!!!!

Good news if you liked this CD as much as I do - Caoimhin says

"the follow up CD to Kitty Lie Over is just about ready to be released - just waiting on the final master CD, and we’re hoping to launch it in July at the Willie Clancy week."

Buttermilk on Track 14….(not)?

If the second tune on track 1 is "Munster Buttermilk", then the third tune on track 14, identified on the CD label as "Munster Buttermilk", is not. Anyone know the name of the third tune on track 14? It has 3 parts, "Buttermilk" on track 1 has two.
Is this buttermilk from different dairies?
I like them both, and the artists are—-well, they speak for themselves, don’t they?

Many tunes share the same name. Your first sentence is incorrect.

Editing to add that the second tune has several names, including Behind the Haystack (more common) and my personal favourite, Box the Monkey.

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