Gilderoy hornpipe

Also known as Guilde Roy, Guilderoy.

There are 3 recordings of a tune by this name.

Gilderoy has been added to 3 tune sets.

Gilderoy has been added to 23 tunebooks.

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Four settings

X: 1
T: Gilderoy
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amin
|:E2|A2A>B c>Bc>d|e>fe>c d2 c>d|e>dc>B A>Bc>A |B>^GE2 E2(3E^FG |
A>^GA>B c>Bc>d|e>fe>c d2c>d|e>a^g>a e>dc>B|c2 A2 A2:|
|:e>f|g2 g>a g>fe>f|g>fe>c d2 c>d|e>dc>B A>Bc>A|B>^G E2 E2(3E^FG|
A>^GA>B c>Bc>d|e>fe>c d2 c>d|e>a^g>a e>dc>B|c2 A2 A2:|
X: 2
T: Gilderoy
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amin
|:E2|A2AB cBcd|efec d2 cd|edcB ABcA |B^GE2 E2 EG |
A^GAB cBcd|efec d2cd|ea^ga edcB|c2 A2 A2:|
|:e^f|g3 a g^fef|gfec d2 cd|edcB ABcA|B^G EE E2EG|
A^GAB cBcd|efec d2 cd|ea^ga edcB|c2 A2 A2:|
X: 3
T: Gilderoy
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amin
E2 | A2 A>B c>Bcd | e2 dc d2 cd | e2 G2 cAGE | G4 z2c>B |
A>^GAB c>Bcd | e>def e2 ag | fedc B3 A | B4 z2 ||
e>f | g>^fga g2 =fe | fedc d2 c>d | e2 G2 c<AG>E | G4 z2c>B |
A>^GAB c>Bcd | e>def e2 ag | fedc B3 A | B4 z2 |]
X: 4
T: Gilderoy
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amin
L: 1/8
|:E2|A2 AB cBcd|efec d2cd|ea^ga ecdB|c2A2A2:|]
ef|g2ga gfef|gfecd2cd|edcB ABcA|B^GEEE2EG|
A^GAB cBcd|efecd2cd|ea^ga ecdB|c2A2A2|]

Fourteen comments

Gilderoy

I’m posting this tune in response to a request made on June 26th 2010 by session member "leftynow"

Please note that it is NOT the same tune as "Gilderoy" AKA "The Beggarman", neither is it the same tune as "Gilderoy" AKA "The Indian Ate the Woodchuck".

I’ve transcribed it "dotted", but it is also played without any swing.

I was asked to sing "Gilderoy" for a wedding a few years back. Think it was the same tune - certainly had that harmonic minor feel to it. Like it as a hornpipe (but then I like hornpipes - know they’re not everybody’s cup of tea).

I understand woodchuck to be pretty tasty - not kidding here and makes nice shoestrings, too.

It’s the same tune alright. Just different!

Re: Gilderoy

I just stumbled on this tune while picking my way through a 1933 publication called The Robbins Collection of 200 Jigs, Reels and Country Dances for Piano, Violin, Flute, or Mandolin. The tune is called Guilderoy Reel in this publication, but it is definitely this tune and not the Little Beggarman tune. The main difference, other than being labelled a reel, is that it appears to be in A harmonic minor or maybe A melodic minor instead of A natural minor. I leave that to the musicologists.

I’ll try to create an ABC and post my first ever setting here, thus entering the hallowed annals of history.

Gilderoy, X:2

I think I actually posted a setting. Look out, folks. I may become a bore.

I notated this as a reel as that is the way it is in my source. The accidentals are slightly different from setting 1 and the triplet disappeared. But other than all that, it is definitely the same tune.

I like the tune. I think I’ll work on it.

Gilderoy, X:3

This was transcribed to abc by Nigel Gatherer. It is from Surenne’s " Songs of Scotland". I’m not sure what the finishing on a B is about! It sounds unresolved.

Re: Gilderoy

Is it me, or is ‘Gilderoy’ (almost) a variant of the tune to ‘Star of the County Down’? Can they, by any chance, be related?

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Re: Gilderoy

A close variant published as Baledwyr Nefyn in Nicholas Bennett’s Alawon fy Ngwald in 1896. In G minor

Re: Gilderoy

The third setting (X:3) is how we (i.e., we in our local session) play this except for ending the parts on A (rather than the B of the transcription).
Harmonised roughly thus:
|:Am|C G|Am F C|G|Am|C Am|Dm E7|Am:|
|:C|Dm E7|Am F C|G|Am|C Am|Dm E7|Am:|

Re: Gilderoy

At last I’ve found it! This is a tune played by two fiddlers in a barn dance scene in the 1979 film ‘Tess’ by Roman Polanski. I’ve been trying to find a name for this tune for years and have trawled through the film credits and written emails to various ‘experts’ all to no avail. I’ve only just discovered the remarkable tunepal.org, played it into the mic. and it found it straight away!

So the only question that remains is whether or not Polanski had any particular historical reason for featuring this tune in a film set in 19th century Wessex? I don’t think it seems to be in any of the Thomas Hardy collections at any rate. Does anyone have any idea of its origins?

I’ll post an exact transcription of this as played in the film…

Re: Gilderoy

I think that JP Frahley’s tune "The Red Headed Irishman" is
the same tune discussed here (or at least in the same family).
I have always loved this version of the tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_RbJ8Crb18

Here is an obit for JP: https://bluegrasstoday.com/jp-fraley-passes/
If you have never heard his music, it is well worth checking out.
Of all the old-time traditions in America, I have always thought that
Kentucky fiddle music was closer to Irish
(than say Virgina, West Virgina, or N Carolina fiddle music).

Gilderoy, X:4

This is a direct transcription as played in the 1978 film Tess. It’s virtually identical to the second version on this page, but with a couple of minor differences.