back menu
Log in or Sign up

Tralee Gaol polka

Also known as As I Went Out Upon The Ice, Charles Og, Glen Cottage, Glen Cottage Polka 2, Glen Cottage Polka No.2, The Glin Cottage No. 2, The Green Cockade, The Haughs O’ Cromdale, The Haughs Of Cromdale, O’Neill’s March.

There are 32 recordings of this tune.

This tune has been recorded together with

Tralee Gaol appears in 1 other tune collection.

Tralee Gaol has been added to 50 tune sets.

Tralee Gaol has been added to 280 tunebooks.

Download ABC

Fifteen settings

1
X: 1
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|ed gB|A2 A2:|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|dB gB|d/c/B/A/ GE|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|ed gB|A2 A2:|
2
X: 2
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:BE EF/A/|BA FA|BE EF/E/|D>E FA|
BE EF/A/|B/c/B/A/ FA|BA/B/ dF|FE E2:|
|:Be ef|ed BA|Be ef|d2 d>A|
Be ef|ed B>c|dB AF|E2 E2:|
3
X: 3
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:B/d/|eA AB/d/|ed Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|BA/B/ dB|BG/B/ dB|A2- A:|
|:B/d/|ef/g/ a>b|ag ed|Bc/d/ e>f|ga fg|
ea a>b|ag ed|BA/B/ d>B|A2- A:|
4
X: 4
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:B/d/|eA Bd|e/f/e/d/ B>d|eA AB/A/|G>A B/c/d|
eA AB/d/|ed Bd|e/g/e/d/ gB|BA A:|
|:d|ea zb|ag ge|dB GB|e/d/c/B/ Gd|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|dB gB|A2 A:|
5
X: 5
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:BE E/F/G/A/|B>A FA|BE- EF/E/|D>E FA|
BE EF/A/|B/c/B/A/ FA|BA/B/ dF|FE E2:|
|:Be- e>f|ed BA|Be ef|d/e/d/c/ BA|
Be ef|ed B>c|dB AF|E4:|
6
X: 6
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:eA Bd|e/f/e/d Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|ed Bd|ea e/f/e/d|BA A2:|
|:e2 ef/g/|ae fe|d2 de/f/|ge fd|
e>d ef/g/|ae f/e/d/B/|ea e/f/e/d/|BA A2:|
7
X: 7
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:FA|BE- EF/A/|BE FA|BE G/F/E|DD/E/ FA|
BE FA|BE FE|DD/E/ FA|FE E:|
|:A|B>^A B^c/d/|eB ^c/B/A/F/|A>^G AB/^c/|dB ^c/B/A|
B2 B^c/d/|eB BA|Be B/^c/B/A/|FE E2:|
8
X: 8
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:BE EF/A/|BA B/c/d|BE EF/E/|D>E FA|
BE EF/A/|BA B/c/d|BA dF|F/E/D E2:|
|:Be ed/e/|f>e dA|Be ed/e/|f>e dc|
Be ed/e/|f/g/f/e/ dA|BA dF|F/E/D E2:|
9
X: 9
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|ed gB|A2 A2:|
|:ea ag/a/|b>a ge|dB gB|d/c/B/A/ GE|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|ed gB|A2 A2:|
10
X: 10
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:BE EF/A/|BA FA|BE EF/E/|D>E FA|
BE EF/A/|B/c/B/A/ FA|BA/B/ dF|FE E2:|
|:BE ED/E/|FE D2|BE ED/E/|FE d2|
BE ED/E/|F/G/F/E/ DF|AF dF|FE E2:|
# Added by sheaR .
11
X: 11
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:BE EF/A/|BA FA|BE E/G/F/E/|DE FA|
BE EF/A/|BA FA|A/F/A/B/ dF|E2 E2:|
|:ee ed/e/|fe dB|A/F/A/B/ de|fe dB|
ee ed/e/|fe dB|A/F/A/B/ dF|E2 E2:|
12
X: 12
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|ed gB|A2 A2:|
|:ea ag/a/|b>a ge|dB gB|d/c/B/A/ Gd|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|ed gB|A2 A2:|
13
X: 13
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
eA AB/d/|e>d Bd|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|e/f/e/d Bd|ed gB|A2 A2:|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|dB gB|d/c/B/A/ GE|
ea ag/a/|b>a ge|ed gB|A2 A2:|
14
X: 14
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ddor
|:AD DE/G/|A/B/A/G/ EG|AD DE/D/|C2 E/D/E/G/|
AD DE/G/|AG AB|c>A GE|D2 DE/G/:|
|:Ad dc/d/|ed cA|G2 c>d|cA AG|
Ad dc/d/|ed cA|GE/E/ cE|D2 DE/G/:|
15
X: 15
T: Tralee Gaol
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:eA AB/d/|~e>d B/A/B/d/|eA AB/A/|G>A Bd|
eA AB/d/|~e>d B/A/B/d/|e/d/e/f/ gB|BA A2:|
|:ea ag/a/|b>a g/f/g/e/|d/c/B/d/ gB|d/c/B/A/ G/A/B/d/|
ea ag/a/|b>a g/f/g/e/|d/c/B/d/ gB|BA A2:|

Fifty comments

Numb nuts!

Lay off the crystal…

LOL!

Hey ‘c’ we all play polkas like that over here in Australia. Only the best musicians can follow us, provided that they have a generous pinch of base before the set 😀

Common? Or not really in fact….

We dont ever play this tune in our session in Sydney and none of the sessions that I go to in Melbourne either.

Posted by .

Well Beebs it does get played over here in Perth though not by my choice and thankfully not too often.
PS: My dislike for the tune probably has more to do with how it is played.

yeah, I just meant that it may be a *common* session tune in some sessions, but probably not even most in Australia I’d say. Its a cr*p tune anyway - so thankfully we never play it 🙂

Posted by .

You shun it just cuz it’s not a reel in B minor 🙂

Yes, I confess Dow - that is true.

Posted by .

Not in G Major

Yes, this tune has one sharp, but this does not make it G Major (Ionian).

It is actually a tune in A Dorian, the A scale with a flattened third and seventh. This is why is sounds like a tune in a minor scale.

“Tralee Gaol” / “As I Went Out Upon the Ice” ~ Numb Nuts revisited:

First, to clear up all that black shight, I mean, 1/32nd notes?:

K: Gmaj
eA AB/d/ | e>d Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | e>d Bd | ed gB | A2 A2 :|
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | dB gB | d/c/B/A/ GE |
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | ed gB | A2 A2 :|

& another transcription and key,
there are many and
this tune features in numerous printed collections:

K: D Major
|: BE EF/A/ | BA FA | BE EF/E/ | D>E FA |
BE EF/A/ | B/c/B/A/ FA | BA/B/ dF | FE E2 :|
|: Be ef | ed BA | Be ef | d2 d>A |
Be ef | ed B>c | dB AF | E2 E2 :|

Slide into Polka ~

From this slidified take on the melody ~

https://thesession.org/tunes/5117

~ to the following:

T: Johnny O’Leary’s
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Gmaj
|: B/d/ |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | BA/B/ dB | BG/B/ dB | A3 :|
|: B/d/ |
ef/g/ a>b | ag ed | Bc/d/ e>f | ga fg |
ea a>b | ag ed | BA/B/ d>B | A3 :|

A few collections where you’ll find this,
but never a 1/32nd note:

“Matt Cunningham’s Dance Music of Ireland”
Matt Cunningham, Dave Mallinson Publications, 1999
ISBN: 1-899512-45-A ~ page 25: Tralee Gaol
& similar to the ABCs in K: D given previously (above)…

“110 Ireland’s Best Polkas and Slides”
Waltons, 1999
ISBN: 1-85720-086-1
Page 22/Tune 49: “The Glen Cottage Polka (2)”
same A-part, another take on a B-part =
~ e>d ef/g/ |ae f/e/d/B/ | d>e de/f/ | ge f/e/d | ~


“100 Irish Polkas”
Edited by Dave Mallinson
Dave Mallinson Publications, 1997
ISBN: 1-899512-21-7
Page 1/ Tune 2: “The Glen Cottage No.2”
~ same as previous…

Additional names:
“As I Went Out Upon the Ice”
“Glin Cottage Polka No. 2”
“The Green Cottage Polka No.2”
“Johnny O’Leary’s”

“Irish Traditional Music Session Tunes Book 2”
Anthony Sullivan
Page 9 / Tune 21: “Tralee Gaol”
B-part =
~ ea ag/a/ | f>a ge | dB gB | d/c/B/A/ GE | ~

& a few more ways with this…

K: Gmaj
|: B/d/ |
eA Bd | e/f/e/d/ B>d | eA AB/A/ | G>A B/c/d |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | e/g/e/d/ gB | BA A :|
|: d |
ea zb | ag ge | dB GB | e/d/c/B/ Gd |
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | dB gB | A2 A :|

& another

K: D Major
|: BE E/F/G/A/ | B>A FA | BE- EF/E/ | D>E FA |
BE EF/A/ | B/c/B/A/ FA | BA/B/ dF | FE E2 :|
|: Be- e>f | ed BA | Be ef | d/e/d/c/ BA |
Be ef | ed B>c | dB AF | E4 :|

Oh yeah, and in A Major too…

You know, if they really did play everything at neck-break speeds in Oz, there’d be a good market there for instrument repair people and makers… And about the ‘crystal’ and with my concern for ‘the person’ ~ body and spirit, just think of all those burnt out bodies and minds and the RSI ~ a great need for therapists physio and mental…
😉

Dorian ~ Dorian ~ Dorian ~ “The Glen Cottage No.2”

I just realized I followed the same K: pattern as the original transcript given here, as ‘Major’, which it isn’t. It is Dorian. I think I was carrying consideration for this contribution too far, after all, 32nd notes, I shouldn’t be so kind. Anyway, here’s another transcript knocked out of me by a recent contribution:

K: A Dorian
|: eA Bd | e/f/e/d Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | ea e/f/e/d | BA A2 :|
|: e2 ef/g/ | ae fe | d2 de/f/ | ge fd |
e>d ef/g/ | ae f/e/d/B/ | ea e/f/e/d/ | BA A2 :|

K: E Dorian
|: FA |
BE- EF/A/ | BE FA | BE G/F/E | DD/E/ FA |
BE FA | BE FE | DD/E/ FA | FE E :|
|: A |
B>^A B^c/d/ | eB ^c/B/A/F/ | A>^G AB/^c/ | dB ^c/B/A |
B2 B^c/d/ | eB BA | Be B/^c/B/A/ | FE E2 :|

Known very widely in Scotland as “The Haughs of Cromdale”.

“The Haughs o’ Cromdale”

I see it is also played and sung in D Dorian… My guess is the tune was first and the Scottish lyrics put to it came later? Now you’ve drawn my attention to it, yes, I’ve heard it sung at some point in my life, a certain Scottish singer that used to regularly visit Eire…

http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiHCROMDAL;ttHCROMDAL.html

"As I came in by Auchindoun,
A little wee bit frae the town,
When to the Highlands I was bound
To view the Haughs of Cromdale." ~

“The Haughs of Cromdale” ~ Country Dance

Damn, memories come flooding in. I’ve also danced this dance. Here are a few scraps from books within immediate reach ~

“Scotland’s Dances” by Hugh Thurston
The Teachers’ Association, Canada, 1984
Part IV: Country Dances, page 105 ~

“Country Dances of a rather different type have been collected in the Scottish countryside and published by the Scottish Country Dance Club (in ‘The Border Dance Book’) and the R.S.C.D.S. As might be expected, they are much less stereotyped than the ballroom dances, and have a decidedly Scottish character. Many of them are strathspeys, not merely being danced to strathspey tunes, but using schottische steps, which fit the rhythm very nicely. Good examples are ‘The Oxon Reel’, ‘The Braes of Busby’, ‘The Haughs of Cromdale’, ‘The Duchess of Gordon’s Fancy’, ‘Loch Erichtside’ and ‘The Jimp Waist’, which all employ the vigorous ‘highland schottische’ step.”

“Traditional Dancing in Scotland” by J.P. & T.M. Flett
Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1964
Part X: Some Country Dances, pages 256-257

“‘The Haughs of Cromdale’ ~ is one of the relatively small group of Country Dances which are in Strathspey tempo. It provides a further illustration of the use in the Country Dance of figures derived from other dance-forms, for it incorporates the movements of the Circle Dance (couples dancing around the hall) the Highland Schottische. This fact also enables us to date the dance with reasonable accuracy, for it must have been composed after the introduction of the Highland Schottische, i.e. after about 1855.”

I highly recommend the work of the Fletts, superb, their research and the people behind it.

“Barrack Hill” ~ single jig / slide

Key signature: A Dorian
Submitted on October 6th 2002 by gian marco.
https://thesession.org/tunes/1014

1728 ~ “Playford’s Dancing Master”

“Johnny O’Leary’s” ~ slide / single jig

Key signature: G Dorian
Submitted on October 24th 2005 by Ptarmigan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/5117

I think there’s a good argument that the single jig may have predated the strathspey, and definitely the song…

Been listening to Tony MacMahon from Clare CD again recently. Is this also not the D & E parts of O’Neill’s Cavalcade and also known as The Green Cockade?

Posted .

“The Merry Maid’s Wedding” ~ strathspey / reel - another relative

Key signature: A Dorian & E Dorian
Submitted on July 27th 2006 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/6035

Key Signature??

This tune as written is in 2/8, not 2/4. It could easily be written in 2/4 but all the 16th notes need to become 8th notes and all the 32nd notes need to become 16th notes. Then it will be in 2/4 me thinks! 🙂

Re: Key Signature

Sorry the comment should have been called Time Signature. I think enough people have commented on the key signature! 🙂

And one more title…

Here in Rochester this tune, played in E minor, is known as Charles Og, which (I believe) means “Young Charles”. I’ve searched, but I can’t find any reference to this particular title in any other connection.

Posted by .

Tralee Gaol, X:11

Version of Charles Og played on Ted McGraw’s new album, and played at a lot of our local sessions. Similar to setting 8, but bars 3 and 4 of the B part differ significantly.

Re: Tralee Gaol

This tune appears in a large number of Highland pipe collections.

The Glen collection (1854) gives Gaelic and English titles:

Sud Mar Chaidh an Cal Dholaidh / The Haughs of Cromdale

Donald Campbell, writing in 1862, says that the Lowland title is The Haughs of Cromdale and the Highland title is “Sud Mar Chaidh an Cal Dholaidh or That Was the Way the Kale was Spoiled”.

I’ve also seen “How the Dinner was Spoiled” but the Gaelic gives Cal (kale, cabbage).

The Highland pipes don’t have the high B of course, or notes lower than G.

Tralee Gaol, X:14

a version heard on David Larkin’s radio show: “Larkin’ About”

Re: Tralee Gaol

Anyone looking for the version of ‘Tralee gaol’ played by Margaret Barry & Michael Gorman (tin whisle & fiddle) at Paddington, London in 1956 (Her Mantle so Green, track 7b) go to score No8 above (posted by Ceolachan 8 years ago). That’s the one.

Re: Tralee Gaol

My mistake; Paddy Breen is on ‘flageolet’ on the aforementioned track (i.e.; a wooden whistle) not Margaret Barry who only comes in on banjo the 2d time around (her sound drownded in Patsy Goulding’ accompanying piano). A lovely live moment.

Re: Tralee Gaol

…Gorman & Breen do something rarely heard in ITM; they play the tune in ‘call & response’ fashion the first time around. Gorman plays the ‘tune’ solo, followed by Breen’s solo on the ‘turn’ (from 1’07, track 7 on that album)