Mominette barndance

Also known as French Schottische, Glorystrokes, New French Schottische, The Plane Tree, The Plian Tree, Schottische A Bethanie, Scottish A Bethanie.

There is 1 recording of this tune.

Mominette has been added to 4 tune sets.

Mominette has been added to 29 tunebooks.

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One setting

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X: 1
T: Mominette
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Emin
E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B4|
E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|
e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B2 Bd|
e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|

Twenty-six comments

ABC Help

Hi all. I have just written out the ABC notation for The Plane Tree (Reel) on this website and submitted it but the sheet music is not appearing, just the ABC. Is there another step that I have to take to get this?

Thanks,
Ben

Re: ABC Help

The sheet music isn’t automatic. The webmaster goes through the new submissions every so often and generates the sheet music. Before he does, I recommend you edit the ABC to fit this format.

X: 1
T: Plane Tree, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
|E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B4|
E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|
e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B2 Bd|
e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|

Re: ABC Help

Also, this tune is in E Minor, not G Major.

Re: ABC Help

Thanks guys. I did wonder about the Em/G key thing but I was just glad I had finished it πŸ™‚ however I will change that. I’m not sure who composed it. I think it is just trad.
Thanks again,
Ben

Re: ABC Help

Elsewhere it has been listed as a schottische… It is supposedly in the Blowzabella tune book. I’ll have to check that too.

"The Plane Tree" ~ with more to follow

You might want to consider editing your ABCs from this ~

X: 1
T: Plane Tree, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
|E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B4|E2 GB E2 GB|c2 BA B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 A2 B2 Bd|e2 fg f2 e2|de d2 B3 B|cded c2 BA|G2 F2 E4:|

to this ~

X: 1
T: Plane Tree, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R:
K: Emin
|: E2 GB E2 GB | c2 BA B3 B | cded c2 BA | G2 A2 B4 |
E2 GB E2 GB | c2 BA B3 B | cded c2 BA | G2 F2 E4 :|
|: e2 fg f2 e2 | de d2 B3 B | cded c2 BA | G2 A2 B2 Bd |
e2 fg f2 e2 | de d2 B3 B | cded c2 BA | G2 F2 E4 :|

And change category, from ‘reel’ to a more appropriate slot for this one - ‘barndance’…?!

"(New) French Schottische" ~ Blowzabella

"Encyclopaedia Blowzabellica: The Blowzabella Tune and Dance Book"
Dave Armitage, Nigel Eaton, Paul James, Ian Luff, Dave Roberts, Dave Shepherd, Cliff Stapleton, Jon Swayne
Dragonfly Music - 1987

Page 24

X: 2
T: (New) French Schottische
S: "Encyclopaedia Blowzabellica: The Blowzabella Tune and Dance Book", page 24
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmin
|: D2 FA D2 FA | B2 AG A4 | Bcdc BAGA | F2 G2 E4 |
D2 FA D2 FA | B2 AG A4 | Bcdc BAGF | EDFE D4 :|
|: d2 ef e2 d2 | cdcd A3 A | Bcdc BAGA | F2 G2 E4 |
d2 ef e2 d2 | cdcd A3 A | Bcdc BAGF | EDFE D4 :|

& transposed for comparison ~

K: Emin
|: E2 GB E2 GB | c2 BA B4 | cded cBAB | G2 A2 F4 |
E2 GB E2 GB | c2 BA B4 | cded cBAG | FEGF E4 :|
|: e2 fg f2 e2 | dede B3 B | cded cBAB | G2 A2 F4 |
e2 fg f2 e2 | dede B3 B | cded cBAG | FEGF E4 :|

Re: ABC Help

With it being folk music, theres probabley hundreds of variants by now πŸ™‚
I heard Glorystrokes playing it and transcribed it from that.

Re: ABC Help

aka
Schottische a Bethanie

Re: ABC Help

I’ve heard this played a fair bit, but not in Irish sessions, just ones over this side of the Irish Sea, and mainly in English sessions.

I’ve been resisting saying this next bit, as I’m trying (and failing) not to be as negative as I’ve been of late … but I’ve never liked this tune. I wonder if it’s one of those polarising tunes, like (shhh!) TL and the JoS, where I always seem to come out on the negative side?

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Finkployd4658
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Comment, the story behind your relationship with this, your submission, would be welcome. Where did you pick it up? Is it a standard in your local session? Anything at all would be welcome…

"The Plane Tree" ~ half the length - a Steve Mansfield transcription

X: 4
T: The Plane Tree
Z: Steve Mansfield, posted to tradtunes 30Apr05
N: Changed from M-1/16 to M-1/8
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmin
|: DF/A/ DF/A/ | BA/G/ B2 | B/c/d/c/ B/A/G/F/ |[1 FG A2 :|[2 Ff/e/ d2 ||
|: de/f/ ed | c/d/c/B/ A2 | c/d/e/d/ cB/A/ |[1 FG A2 :|[2 Ff/e/ d2 |]

French Tune: Mominette (was Scottisch a Bethanie) - C: Maxou Heintzen

http://www.youtube.com/user/Accordeonaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp_12SA4NZc


A scottish is a popular French dance, not especially related to the schottische (or other

spellings). I learned this tune many years ago from the blue Massif Central tunebook (tune 12). I did not know the name (trad. arr.) so I named it for my wife (Bethanie).

Edit: on Melodeon.net I learned in December 2010, that this tune has a title, "Mominette," and was written by Maxou Heintzen, a French musician associated with La Chavanee.

"The Plane Tree" is a known composition - a JIG written by Undine Hornby.

The tune posted here is the same melody - but with the time signature changed from 6/8 to 4/4.

4/4 into 6/8 ~ and a tune name scramble 😏

Check the link to that 6/8 version on a melody composed by Maxou Heintzen, in the comments… Unfortunately the names have tended to get intertwined. "The Plane Tree" is a jigged version of this, and as would be the case, this predates the jig…

At least that is my understanding and seems to be supported by publication and recording…

Duple Time Version not "The Plane Tree"

@Ceol - you may well be right when you say that the duple time tune (Maxou Heintzen) predates the triple-time version (Undine Hornby).

But it’s the duple time version that’s been submitted here, so "The Plane Tree" should not be given as the title (although it would be OK as an "AKA")

It was hope that would happen, but communications with Finkployd4658 seemed to only happen in the ‘discussion: ABC Help’, which Jeremy has now moved from there to here in these comments, long after I tried to add content and get the transcription cleaned up and the main title changed. 😏 I live in hope…

Aha! Sorted now - ‘tiz plain to see …

… or should I say, plane to C ? πŸ˜‰

The Plane Tree

The Plane Tree as the 6/8 jig by Undine Hornby has been a popular piece at sessions around Milton Keynes for some years. We always follow it with the Hop Break, another jig composed by Undine Hornby.