Cad E Sin Don Te Sin waltz

Also known as Breton Air, Cad E Sin Don Te Sin, General Monroe’s Lament?, Korydwen Et Le Rouge De Kenholl, Ó Cad É Sin Do’n Té Sin.

There are 8 recordings of a tune by this name.

Cad E Sin Don Te Sin has been added to 1 tune set.

Cad E Sin Don Te Sin has been added to 32 tunebooks.

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Four settings

X: 1
T: Cad E Sin Don Te Sin
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Amin
|:EG|"Am"A3cBG|A4GA|"C"c3d(3edc|"G"d4cd|"Am"e2a2e2|
"Dm"f4ed|1"Am"c2A2AB|"G"G4:|2"Am"c2A2"Am"G2|A4e2||
|:"Am"a3bag|a4ba|"C"g2e2^f2|"G"g4e2|"Am"e2a2e2|
"Dm"f4ed|1c2A2AB|"G"G4e2:|2"Am"c2A2"G"G2|"Am"A4||
# Added by ndlxs .
X: 2
T: Cad E Sin Don Te Sin
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Emin
[V:F1] E | "Em" E>G/F "D"EDE | "A" G>A/ B/G/ "C" A2 G/A/ | "Em" BeB "C" cBA | "Em" G>E/ E "D" D2 D |
"Em" E>G/F EDE | "G" G>A/ B/G/ "D" A2 G/A/ | "Em" BeB "Am" cBA | "Em" GE"D"D "Em" E2 D|
"Em" E>G/F EDE | "G" G>A/ B/G/ "D" A2 G/A/ | "Em" BeB "Am" cBA | "Em" GEE "D" D2 d |
"Em" e>g/f ede | "G" g>f/e "D" f2 e/f/ | "Em" gab "Am" agf | "Em" e2"D"d "Em" e2 |]
[V:F2] z | z6 | z6 | z6 | z3 z2 F |
G2A GFG | BAG F3 | G3 c3 | BGF G2 F |
G2A GFG | BAG F3 | G3 c3 | B2 G F2 F |
G2A GFG | BAG F3 | G3 c3 | BGF G2 |]
# Added by P I .
X: 3
T: Cad E Sin Don Te Sin
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Emin
[V:F1] E2 | "Em" E2 > G F2 | "D"E2 D2 E2 | "A" G2 > A BG | "C" A4 GA | "Em" B2 e2 B2 | "C" c2 B2 A2 | "Em" G2>E E2 | "D" D4 D2 |
"Em" E2 > G F2 | E2 D2 E2 | "G" G2 > A BG | "D" A4 GA | "Em" B2 e2 B2 | "Am" c2 B2 A2 | "Em" G2 E2 "D" D2 | "Em" E4 D2|
"Em" E2 > G F2 | E2 D2 E2 | "G" G2 >A BG | "D" A4 GA | "Em" B2 e2 B2 | "Am" c2 B2 A2 | "Em" G2 E2 E2 | "D" D4 d2 |
"Em" e2>g f2 | e2 d2 e2 | "G" g2>f e2 | "D" f4 ef | "Em" g2 a2 b2 | "Am" a2 g2 f2 | "Em" e4"D"d2 | "Em" e4 |]
[V:F2] z2 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z4 F2 |
G4 A2 | G2 F2 G2 | B2 A2 G2 | F6 | G6 | c6 | B2 G2 F2 | G4 F2 |
G4 A2 | G2 F2 G2 | B2 A2 G2 | F6 | G6 | c6 | B4 G2 | F4 F2 |
G4 A2 | G2 F2 G2 | B2 A2 G2 | F6 | G6 | c6 | B2 G2 F2 | G4 |]
# Added by P I .
X: 4
T: Cad E Sin Don Te Sin
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
B2 |"Em" E3 G"D" FD |"Em" E4 DE |"G" G3 A (3BAG |"D" A4 GA |"Em" B4 eB |"Am" c4 BA |"C" G E3 E2 |"D" D4 B2 |
"Em" E3 G"D" FD |"Em" E4 DE |"G" G3 A (3BAG |"D" A4 GA | "Em" B4 eB |"Am" c4 BA |"C" G E3 ED |"Em" E4 |]
B2 |"Em" e4 (3fed |"Em" e4 fe | "G" d B3 ^c2 |"D" d4 e2 |"Em" B4 e2 | B4 A2 |"C" G E3 F2 |"D" D4 B2 |
"Em" E3 G"D" FD | "Em" E4 DE |"G" G3 A (3BAG |"D" A4 GA |"Em" B4 eB |"^An" c4 BA |"C" G E3 ED |"Em" E4 |]

Twelve comments

Breton Air

As heard on The House Band, "Stonetown", track 3, second tune.

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A minor?

Nice tune. But is it possible the key should be A minor rather than A dorian so those are f naturals in the 6th measure of both A and B parts - and thus matching the D minor chord you have specified for those measures?

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Yes, F natural

Yes, you are correct, F naturals are what I do.

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I know it as ‘Korydwen et le Rouge de Kenholl’ by Tri Yann

Tri Yann takes a lot of their tunes from Scotland and Ireland for their songs. Example: Famous ‘Si Mort a Mors’ comes from the Irish air ‘An Cailin Rua’ aka ‘The Red-Haired Girl’. This tune probably also originated in Ireland.

Earlier tune title and song from Tri Yann

Earlier recordings of Tri Yann use the tune for the song "Cad E Sin Don Te Sin". I don’t know where they got the original….

‘K’ for Close to General Monroe’s Lament (O’Carolan)

Like in horseshoes and hand grenades, close enough?….Someone brought General Monroe’s Lament to our session last night; and when they played it, we thought of this tune…..Anyone else venture a guess?

Origin of the tune

Definetely not Breton in Origin. The tune was popularized in Britanny about 1974 when Tri Yann released its third album. The original tune is from "Cad é Sin Don Té Sin", an irish song from county Munster attested since the start of the 19th century.
The tune bears some resemblance with the beginning of "General Monroe’s Lament".

Re: Untitled Irish Air

Hi - I think this tune might be a version of the song-air "Her Mantle So Green". I can’t judge by the video clip as it is "not available" here in Scotland.

I’ve dropped in to sessions in Adelaide on occasion over the past 10 years or so - "Dan O’Connell’s", the Irish Club, in particular. I had a look at the "Adelaide Celtic Music Club" website and saw the name Liam Flynn. I met Liam on my last visit nearly 3 years ago and he very kindly recorded a slow air with 2 friends - [ "Easter Snow", as I recall ] - for me to play on the radio programme I present here in Aberdeen. Please give him my regards next time you see him. We hope to get back to Adelaide again maybe sometime at the end of next year. I will be in touch when I know the dates for sure, hope we can meet up for a few tunes [ maybe we have already ? :) ]

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Re: Untitled Irish Air

Thank you for your comment Kenny. We remember you well- and I will pass your greetings on to Liam – and the team and we will look forward to your visit.
I have checked out “Her Mantle So Green" and while I can see why you perceive similarities I think the melodies are sufficiently different to be quite distinct tunes.

Re: Gan Ainm

Yep! That is pretty well it.