Doctor O’Neill jig

Also known as Doctor O’Neill’s, Dr O’Neill’s, Dr. O’ Neal, Dr. O’Neal, Dr. O’Neill, Dr. O’Neill’s.

There are 31 recordings of this tune.

Doctor O’Neill appears in 4 other tune collections.

Doctor O’Neill has been added to 34 tune sets.

Doctor O’Neill has been added to 300 tunebooks.

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A 5 Part Jig

Here is a good old tune that shows up every now and then. I rarely hear more than three musicians at a time who know the piece.

I enjoy it with quite a few rolls and pickups but I notated it without any ornamentation or variation. See how the simplified version works for you.

I like to take it easy on this piece.Try to let it flow without attacking any individual part.

By the way

I learned the tune out of the Oneil’s book and I play close to that version.

Nicely done Mark, and a great tune. Actually, to my ear, you have posted one of the more sessionable settings of this that I’ve seen.

On the other hand--and this is where my preference for seeing some ornaments enters into the debate--I’m not sure that “simplifying” the tune down to interval-based phrases really captures the tune, when most trad Irish players *would* more likely use, say, a roll. So does |ded dcB| really get the tune across, or should it be |~d3 dcB|? Can you play it either way? Well, yes, sure. But part of what defines Irish trad playing from other genres is the *ability* to do the ornaments and techniques, and the sensibility of where to put them in.

Maybe a better solution would be |d3 dcB|, which leaves the options more open, and to my eye, more obvious. Yes, I can roll that, or snap a triplet, or do the d-e-d thing. Experienced players will likely know what to do. But what about beginners?

Maybe it’s a toss up. Ornaments complicate the notation too much, but unornamented settings don’t help beginners understand the tradition or style.

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This is really popular out my way, I admit that I just fudge through it & could never play it with out the help of others. Everyone else knows it though & it’s a staple. These multiple part tunes (over 4 parts) need to be played often to keep them straight.

A more accurate ITM version

A|:~d3 AFD|E2F G2 A|~B3 Bcd|AGF EFA|
~d3 AFD|E2 F G2 A|BGB Bcd|AFD D2 A:|
|:~d3 ceA|dfe dcB|AFA Bcd|AGF E2A|
~d3 ceA|dfe dcB|AFA Bcd|1AFD D2 A:|2AFD D2 g|
|:~f3 afd|ded fed|~g3 faf|gee e2 g|
~f3 afd|ded fed|gbg fag|fdd d2 g:|
|:fdf ece|dcB AFA|AFd AFD|AGF E2 g|
fdf ece|dcB AFA|~B3 Bcd|1AFD D2 g:||2AFD D2 G|
|:FAF GBG|FAG FED|FAF GBG|AGF E2G|
FAF GBG|FAG FED|~B3 Bcd|1AFD D2 G:|2AFD D3||

Certainly, the sound of the above arrangement marks it as more Irish. I play the above version most of the time. It depends on how well I’m playing. If I am playing well - I modify it more according to the moment.

Will you made mention of the d3 alternative to dcd and what it means to you. I think that you have a worthy conversation and teaching topic there. Kevin Burke had the same talk with a group of us a few years back. You could have been quoting his book for all I know. (You apparently know him well enough that you have heard every moment of his training workshops by now.) In any event I regard dcd as an opportunity as well. To me, it might just as well be the d3. It means to me that something goes here.

I took a few one-on-one lessons with Mr. Burke years ago, and one workshop recently where we all just talked. And I saw one of his videos once, but didn’t actually study it. My observation comes more from years of listening--to Burke and others--and recognizing that sometimes things written like |faf| are integral to the melody, and sometimes they’re just a “simplification” of what was actually played: |~f3| or |ff/f/f/| etc.

Anyway, after playing this stuff for so long, I come at a piece of written music, as I’m sure you do, with a sense of where to put the rolls, etc. Posting ornamented settings along with the less adorned version, as you’ve done here, should help newcomers to the tradition get a better handle on how it all fits together.

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“Doctor O’Neill’s” & “The Haymakers Jig”

When the dancing in the dance “The Haymakers Jig” is well timed these are great mates, as the dance works out to be equivalent in length to a 5-part tune… But, things don’t always go exact in these things, and there aren’t that many 5-part jigs….

Nice Tune

We do this one at an easy pace, followed by “Top of Cork Road.” It is a favorite of Bruce the bouzouki player, who likes to start with a D chord, and then go to a Dmaj7 chord in the beginning, a nice touch.

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g:||2AFD at the seventh line should be g:|2AFD.

“Doctor O‘Neill’s Jig” ~ a perfect fit for a well timed “Haymakers’ Jig”

X: 3
T: Doctor O’Neill
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Dmaj
|: A |\
dcd AFD | E2F G2 A | B^AB BB/c/d | AGF EFA |
d2 d AFD | E2 F G2 A | BG/A/B Bcd | AFD D2 :|
|: A |\
d2 d ceA | dfe dcB | AFA Bcd | AGF EFA |
ded ceA | dg/f/e dcB | AF/G/A Bcd | AFD D2 :|
|: g |\
f^ef afd | dcd fed | gbg f/g/af | gfg e2 g |
fAf afd | d2 d fed | gfg eag | fdc d2 :|
|: g |\
fd/e/f ece | dcB A2 B | AFd AF/G/d | AGF EF/G/A |
f2 f e2 c | dcB A2 A | B^AB BB/c/d | AFD D2 :|
|: G |\
FAF GBG | FAF FED | F2 F GFG | AFD D2 G |
F2 F GBG | F/G/AF FED | BF/G/A/ Bcd | AFD D2 :|

| BF/G/A Bcd | ?

..Is that what it should be for the 2nd to last measure, ceol?

Anyway, I really enjoy this tune. Unusually (for these many-parted pieces), I like the last part the best.

Yes muspc, I slipped… 😏

Gah, this song brings me to tears.

If God Himself told someone to swing for the fences and create the most perfect jig that ever existed, I believe it would be this 5 part home run. This is my absolute favorite piece of Irish music, ever.

The way The Gloaming perform it, it’s like a heart to heart conversation with God in the most intimate quarters of Heaven. I’ve never heard anything like it and I never will again.

https://youtu.be/8IeN82rq06Y?t=393

Re: Doctor O’Neill

Mighty jig, over 5 strains! Goes well on the pipes.