Caoineadh Na DTri Muire waltz

Also known as Caoineadh Na DTrí Mhuire.

There are 11 recordings of this tune.

Caoineadh Na DTri Muire has been added to 3 tune sets.

Caoineadh Na DTri Muire has been added to 18 tunebooks.

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Four settings

1
X: 1
T: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:GE|D3 E/G/ A3 G/A/|B2 A2 G2 E<G|c2 cA Bd de/d/|B2 AG (A2 A)G/A/|
B2 d4 ed|d2 BA GE/D/ E<G| B5 AG|A5 GE|D3E G2 G2:||
# Added by JACKB .
2
X: 2
T: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:G>(E|D4)EG|"v"A4GA|"t"B4~AG|E<("v"G G4)|"t"c4 A<(d|d4)~e2|d2"t"B>G("t"A2|"v"A4)GA|
B<(d d2) ~e2|d4 B~A|G4 ~ED|E<("v"G G4)|"t"B4 ~A2|G4 ~E2|D2 E<G ~A2 | ~"v"G4:|]
"variant 4th measure"|E<(D D4)|
# Added by cac .
3
X: 3
T: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:dB|A3 B/d/ e3 d/e/|f2 e2 d2 B<d|g2 gf/e/ fa ab/a/|f2 ed (e2 e)d/e/|
f2 a4 ba|a2 fe dB/A/ B<d| f5 ed|e5 dB|A3B d2 d2:||
# Added by JACKB .
4
X: 4
T: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:GE|D3 E/G/ A3 G/A/|B2 A2 G2 E<G|c2 cB/A/ Bd de/d/|B2 AG (A2 A)G/A/|
B2 d4 ed|d2 BA GE/D/ E<G| B5 AG|A5 GE|D3E G2 G2:||
# Added by JACKB .

Ten comments

Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

A beautiful lament, I believe the English is ‘Lament For Calvary’.

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Caoineadh Na DTri Muire, X:2

This version is by Paul Davies, recorded in 1976 on an LP "Armagh Pipers Club - Song of the Chanter" and later reissued on a CD. He had a marvellous tone.

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Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

Re the ornamentation: "~" is an inverted mordant, called by Grey Larsen something like a delayed cut. "t" is a grace note from just below the note, perhaps once or twice played as a slide. "v" is finger vibrato (played with the finger 2 holes below the marked note: e.g. to play vibrato on "A", use the first finger of the right hand (on the F# hole). The tune is a slow air, not a waltz.

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Caoineadh Na DTri Muire, X:3

D Major

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Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

Seems to have 4 crotchets per bar, although time sig of 3/4 in version X3 ?

Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

There should’t be any timing signature as it is an air

Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

Seems odd to me that both versions 1 and 3 have 4 crotchets to the bar, yet time signature 3/4.

Please ennisbannerman, why would an ‘air’ not have a time signature?
At this stage of my life, I do believe I have never seen any music written without time sig.
Therefore, I am seriously interested in your point.
P.

Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

You pretty much have to go back to medieval plainsong to find music without time signatures. Of course, with a slow air the player can pull the timing around just how he or she likes, but that doesn’t mean no time sig, or as we have here, a mixture!

Re: Caoineadh Na DTri Muire

That is more correct. There is no definitive version of any air. many come close but it depends on the individual listener. The lengths of notes can very too and also the number of notes in each bar.
In other words, the air must be played to closely align with the song with appropriate embelashments to add to the song and not change it.
It also, in theory is not possible to play an air directly from the notes which is why the signature os for guidance only and not a rigid rule with a definite tempo