If We Hadn’t Any Women In The World barndance

Also known as The Bereffoy, Francie Mooney’s German, Hammy Hamilton’s Highland, If There Wasn’t Any Women In The World, If There Were No Women In The World, If There Weren’t Any Women, If There Weren’t Any Women In The Whole Wide World, If There Weren’t Any Women In The World, If There Weren’t Any Women In The World At All, Michael Grogan’s, Where Would The World Be Without Women.

There are 33 recordings of a tune by this name.

A tune by this name has been recorded together with Around The Fairy Fort (a few times) and The New Broom (a few times).

If We Hadn’t Any Women In The World has been added to 8 tune sets.

If We Hadn't Any Women In The World has been added to 201 tunebooks.

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Thirteen settings

X: 1
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
Bc |: de dB GA BG | EA GE D3 A | BG Bd ge dB | {G}A2 AG A2 Bc |
de dB GA BG | EA GE D3 A | B d2 B AG AB |1 G2 {A}GF G2 Bc :|2 G2 {A}GF G GBd ||
e2 ef g2 gf | ed dB d2 (3Bcd | ed Bd ge dB | A2 AG A2 Bc |
de dB GA BG | EA GE D3 A | B d2 B AG AB |1 G2 {A}GF G GBd :|2 G2 {A}GF G2 z2 ||
X: 2
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:B>c|d>ed>B G>AB>G | E2 _E2 D2 G>A | B>d^c>d e>dB>G | A4- A2 B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G | E2 _E2 D2 G>A | B>dB>G A>^GA>B |[1 G4- G2 :|[2 G4- G>G ||
|: (3Bcd |e2- e>f g2- g>f | e2 d2 d2 G>A | B>d^c>d e>dB>G | A4- A2 B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G | E2 _E2 D2 G>A | B>dB>G A>^GA>B |[1 G4- G>G :|[2 G4- G2 |]
X: 3
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: f>g |a>ba>f d>ef>d | B>dG>B A2 d>e | f>df>d b>af>d | e2- e>d e2 f>g |
a>ba>f d>ef>d | (3BcB G>B A2 d>e | f>da>f e>de>f | d4 d2 :|
|: f>a |b>ab>c’ d’2 c’>d' | (3aba a>g a2 f>g | a>df>a b>af>d | e2- e>f e2 f>g |
a>ga>f d>ef>d | (3BcB G>B A2 d>e | f>da>f e>de>f | d4 d2 :|
X: 4
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
Bc:|d3 B GABG|E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|A3 B A2 Bc|
dedB GABG|E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|1 G2 GF G2 Bc:|2 G2 GF G2 Bd||
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|edBd gdBG|(3ABA ^GB A2 Bd|
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|ed B/c/d gdBG|(3ABA GF G2 Bd|
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|edBd gdBG|(3ABA ^GB A2 Bc|
d3 B GABG| E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|G2 GF G2 Bc||
# Added .
X: 5
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|: Bc |d3 B GABG | E2 E2 D4 | B/B/c dB AGAB | A3 B A2 Bc|
dedB GABG | E2 E2 D4 | B/B/c dB AGAB | G2 GF G2 :|
|: Bd |e3 f g2 fg | edd^c d2 Bd | edBd gdBG | A/B/A ^GB A2 Bd |
e3 f g2 fg | edd^c d2 Bd | ed B/c/d gdBG | A/B/A GF G2 Bd |
e3 f g2 fg | edd^c d2 Bd | edBd gdBG | A/B/A ^GB A2 Bc |
d3 B GABG | E2 E2 D4 | B/B/c dB AGAB |G2 GF G2 |]
X: 6
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
R: highland fling
|: B>c |d>ed>B G>AB>G | E>AG>E D2 D>A |
[1 B>GB>d g>ed>B | A2 A>G A2 :|\
[2 B>GB>d A>GA>B | G2 G>F G2 ||
(3Bcd |e2 e>f g2 g>f | e>dd>B d2 (3Bcd |\
e>dB>d g>ed>B | A2 A>G A2 B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G | E>AG>E D2 D>A |\
B>dB>G A>GA>B | G2 G>F G2 |]
X: 7
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: FG |ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFA BAFD | E2 ED E2 FG |
ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFD EDEF | D2 DD D2 :|
|: FA |B2 BA BcdB | A2 AB AFDF | AFAF BAFD | E2 ED E2 FG |
ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFD EDEF | D2 DD D2 :|
X: 8
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: (3EFG |A>BA>F D>E (3FED | B,2 _B,2 A,2 D>E | F>DF>A B>AF>D | E2 E>^D E2 F>G |
A2 F2 D>EE>D | B,2 G,>B, A,2 (3CDE | F>^EF>D =E>^DE>F | D2 (3DDD D2 :|
|: (3FGA |B2 B>A B>cd>B | A2 A>B A>FD>F | A2 (3FGA B>AF>D | E2 (3EEE E2 (3EFG |
A>BA>F D2 (3FED | B,>^A,B,>G, =A,2 D>E | F2 F>D E2 E>F | D2 D2 D2 :|
X: 9
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: (3efg |a>ba>f d>e (3fed | B2 _B2 A2 d>e | f2 (3fga b>af>d | e2- e>^d e2 f>g |
a2 f2 d2 e>d | B2 G>B A2 d>e | f>^ef>d =e>^de>c | d2 d2 d2 :|
|: f>a |b2 b>c’ (3d’e’d’ (3d’c’b | b2 a2 f2 d>f | a2 ^g>a b>af>d | e2 c2 A2 (3efg |
a2 a>f d2 f>d | B>^AB>G =A2 (3cde | f2 f>d e2 (3edc | d2 A2 D2 :|
X: 10
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amaj
|: c>d |e>fe>c A2 c>A | F2 A>F E2 A>B | c>e^d>e f>ec>A | B6 c>d |
e>fe>c A>B (3cBA | F>BA>F (3EFE A>B | c>ec>A B>^AB>G | A4- A2 :|
|: (3cde |f2- f>g a3 g | f2 e2 e2 A>B | c>e^d>e f>ec>A | B4- B2 c>d |
e2 e>c A2 c>A | F2 =F2 E2 A>B | c2 (3cde B2 (3BAG | A4- A>A :|
X: 11
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:ABAF DEFD | B,2 GB, A,2 DE | F2AF BFAF |B,2 E2 E2 FG | ABAF DEFD | B,2GB,A,2 DE| F2AF EDEF | D2 D2 :|
|: dc | B3c d2c2 | B2 A2 A2 FG | F2AF BFAF |B,2 E2 E2 FG | ABAF DEFD | B,2GB,A,2 DE| F2AF EDEF | D2 D2 :|
X: 12
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: F>G |A>BA>F D>EF>D | B,2 G>B, A,2 D>E | F2 A>F B>FA>F |B,2 E2 E2 F>G |
A>BA>F D>EF>D | B,2 G>B, A,2 D>E | F2 A>F E>DE>F | D2 D2 D2 :|
|: d>c |B2- B>c d2 c2 | B2 A2 A2 F>G | F2 A>F B>FA>F | B,2 E2 E2 F>G |
A>BA>F D>EF>D | B,2 G>B, A,2 D>E | F2 A>F E>DE>F | D2 D2 D2 :|
X: 13
T: If We Hadn't Any Women In The World
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:B>c|d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>d^c>d e>dB>G|A2 AB A2 B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>dd>B A>GB>A|G2 GF G2:||
|:(3Bcd|e2 e>f g2 g>f|e>dd>B d2 (3Bcd|e>dB>d g>ed>B|A2 AB A2 B>c|
d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>dd>B A>GB>A|G2 GF G2:||

Twenty-six comments

Not a hornpipe

I fell in love with this little tune since i first heard it in Hammy Hamilton’s "Moneymusk" CD.

This is not a hornpipe, but a highland; it has a "dotted" (bouncy) feel but swings a little differently. Your best bet is to listen to the CDs (Moneymusk or Harry Bradley’s "As I carelessly did stray…"). Failing that, if you have a PC, try feeding this into ABCMus and change the rhythm to highland, Q=1/4=160.

In the Moneymusk, this tune is called "If we hadn’t any women in the world."

This setting is transcribed from Harry Bradley, keeping just a minimum of the ornamentation. It’s really a simple tune, and works best played simply.

Followed by …

I have heard a pair of tunes played by an old box player from Tyrone called "If There Were No Women/ If There Were No Men". But can’t recall if this matches the first in his set.

If we hadn’t any women

Dunno, Longnote, sounds like it might be.

More info: Harry Bradley says he learned this tune from Hammy Hamilton. Hamilton, in his liner notes, has: "[This] very unusually named tune was recorded by James Morrison in New York in May 1928 on the Columbia label. He also called it ‘The Bereffoy’ and classified it as a barn dance."

Interestingly enough, the tune that goes with this one in Hammy’s album (called "The Moneymusk" by him) is also known as "The Highland", so i’m wondering if Harry maybe got confused and took the title for the second tune as if it were for the first.

There are no big differences between Hammy’s setting and Harry’s.

It sounds like it could be derived from a song melody. The first part has echoes of The Road to the Isles.

Song?

Could be. The long title (If we hadn’t any women in the world) could be the first line of the lyrics. It fits on the melody, anyway.

This is a barndance not a hornpipe

THIS IS A BARNDANCE! - there are actually clear signs of why

No, while it is related, even sibling wise, to hornpipes and highland flings, it isn’t either. It is a rolicking bouncy 32 bar ‘barndance’… Yes about the pairing, I’ve put the variant name ‘If There Weren’t Any Men’ and ‘If There Were No Men’ to the other barndance this was sometimes paired with, ‘The Hills of Tara’, going way back to 78s even…

AND NOTATION - suspecting that Jeremy may axe my contribution

If There Weren’t Any Women In The World
BARNDANCE

X: 1
T: If There Weren’t Any Women In The World
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Gmaj

|:B>c|d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>d^c>d e>dB>G|A6 B>c|
d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>dB>G A>^GA>B|1 G6:|
2 G5 G (3Bcd||
e3 f g3 f|e2 d2 d2 G>A|B>d^c>d e>dB>G|A6 B>c|
d>ed>B G>AB>G|E2 _E2 D2 G>A|B>dB>G A>^GA>B|1 G5 G (3Bcd:|
2 G6||

There are so many things collecting in what seems to have become a dustbin category, that it would be nice to have a higher percentage of actual ‘barndances’ collected under there, some caught up in the hornpipe section include ‘The Glenbeigh’, and also, though smeared closer to a hornpipe, ‘The Peacock’s Feather’…

OK, changed to barndance

There. :-)

So what are the clear signs as to why?

Terry Teahan - on a high

Teahan played this on the edge:

K: Dmaj

|:f>d|abaf de (3fed|B2 GB A2 de| ~ etc…

I’ve copy of James Morrison’s recording of this - also the Paddy Killoran Orchestra’s. Like Cuz Teahan they played in D, going all the way to high D in the second part. Hamilton and Bradley reset the tune into G, probably because of the crappy instruments they play can’t get up there, nyuk nyuk.

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Yet another setting

X: 1
T: Hammy Hamilton’s Highland
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
D: A Clare Conscience, Anthony Quigney and Aidan McMahon
K: Gmaj
Bc:|d3 B GABG|E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|A3 B A2 Bc|
dedB GABG|E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|1 G2 GF G2 Bc:|2 G2 GF G2 Bd||
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|edBd gdBG|(3ABA ^GB A2 Bd|
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|ed B/c/d gdBG|(3ABA GF G2 Bd|
e3 f g2 fg|edd^c d2 Bd|edBd gdBG|(3ABA ^GB A2 Bc|
d3 B GABG| E2 E2 D4|B/B/c dB AGAB|G2 GF G2 Bc||

Posted .

# Posted on Monday, November 28th 2005 by Will Harmon:

"Hammy Hamilton’s Highland" ~ a cheerful little piece from the playing of Anthony Quigney and Aidan McMahon on their cd, "A Clare Conscience". This is one of my favorite tracks on the whole cd, and that’s saying something. They play this with a lot of swing and lift, and the blend of fiddle and flute is particularly sweet here.

Listening to the fiddle, you’ll hear a number of bowed triplets adding momentum, as in: |B/B/c dB AGAB|A2 AB A2… and |ed B/c/d gdBG|

“The Hills Of Tara” / “If ther Weren’t Any Men in the World” ~ often paired

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on May 12th 2004 by gian marco.
https://thesession.org/tunes/2998

Lovely tune that’s new at our session. We play it in A with a surprise F natural in bar 2.

“If We Hadn’t Any Women in the World” ~ if you were to highlandize it ~

The following uses the original contribution to approximate what it might be if taken as a 16 bar highland fling ~

K: G Major
|: B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G | E>AG>E D2 D>A |
1 B>GB>d g>ed>B | A2 A>G A2 :|
2 B>GB>d A>GA>B | G2 G>F G2 (3Bcd ||
e2 e>f g2 g>f | e>dd>B d2 (3Bcd |
e>dB>d g>ed>B | A2 A>G A2 B>c |
d>ed>B G>AB>G | E>AG>E D2 D>A |
B>dB>G A>GA>B | G2 G>F G2 ||

“Where Would The World Be Without Women” ~ duplication rescue

Key signature: D Major
Submitted on April 10th 2007 by enirehtac.
~ /tunes/7060

X: 1
T: Where Would The World Be Without Women
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance / German
K: Dmaj
|: FG |
ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFA BAFD | E2 ED E2 FG |
ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFD EDEF | D2 DD D2 :|
|: FA |
B2 BA BcdB | A2 AB AFDF | AFAF BAFD | E2 ED E2 FG |
ABAF DEED | B,2 B,2 A,2 DE | FEFD EDEF | D2 DD D2 :|

This is the third German on track 9 of "Ceol Aduaidh", with Frankie and Mairead. I’ve learned most of it by ear, but there were a few stray notes I wasn’t getting. This is a beautiful barndance, with low notes, which I like.

Here is the source, which also has several other barndances in abc format,

http://misaok.hp.infoseek.co.jp/fmod/Do.45~54.html.

# Posted on April 10th 2007 by enirehtac

“If There Weren’t Any Women In The World”

Well, I personally don’t think it would be as cheery as this little number suggests. An old favourite, and here are some other ways with it in D Major, following enirehtac’s submission in that loveable lower take ~

X: 1134
T: If There Weren’t Any Women in the World
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
|: (3EFG |
A>BA>F D>E (3FED | B,2 _B,2 A,2 D>E | F>DF>A B>AF>D | E2 E>^D E2 F>G |
A2 F2 D>EE>D | B,2 G,>B, A,2 (3CDE | F>^EF>D =E>^DE>F | D2 (3DDD D2 :|
|: (3FGA |
B2 B>A B>cd>B | A2 A>B A>FD>F | A2 (3FGA B>AF>D | E2 (3EEE E2 (3EFG |
A>BA>F D2 (3FED | B,>^AB,>G, =A,2 D>E | F2 F>D E2 E>F | D2 D2 D2 :|

B-part, measure 6 correction, the A, ~ | B,>^A,B,>G, =A,2 D>E | ~

“If There Weren’t Any Women In The World” ~ on high

X: 1134
T: If There Weren’t Any Women in the World
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj
|: (3efg |
a>ba>f d>e (3fed | B2 _B2 A2 d>e | f2 (fga b>af>d | e3 ^d e2 f>g |
a2 f2 d2 e>d | B2 G>B A2 d>e | f>^ef>d =e>^de>c | d2 d2 d2 :|
|: f>a |
b2 b>c’ (3d’e’d’ (3d’c’b | b2 a2 f2 d>f | a2 ^g>a b>af>d | e2 c2 A2 (3efg |
a2 a>f d2 f>d | B>^AB>G =A2 (3cde | f2 f>d e2 (3edc | d2 A2 D2 :|

“If There Weren’t Any Women In The World” ~ closing on an A

X: 1134
T: If There Weren’t Any Women In The World
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: A Major
|: c>d |
e>fe>c A2 c>A | F2 A>F E2 A>B | c>e^d>e f>ec>A | B6 c>d |
e>fe>c A>B (3cBA | F>BA>F (3EFE A>B | c>ec>A B>^AB>G | A6 :|
|: (3cde |
f3 g a3 g | f2 e2 e2 A>B | c>e^d>e f>ec>A | B6 c>d |
e2 e>c A2 c>A | F2 =F2 E2 A>B | c2 (3cde B2 (3BAG | A5 A :|

I kept vigil for PaddyC’s transcription in A, but it never came… :-( (there should be a tear there somewhere…)

Another variation

Wow, ceolachan, thanks for the duplication rescue, I just noticed it!

I found another cool variation, in a version by Gene Kelly (partly Gene’s variation, some of my own):

X: 1134
T: If There Weren’t Any Women in the World
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: Dmaj

|:ABAF DEFD | B,2 GB, A,2 DE | F2AF BFAF |B,2 E2 E2 FG | ABAF DEFD | B,2GB,A,2 DE| F2AF EDEF | D2 D2 :|
|: dc | B3c d2c2 | B2 A2 A2 FG | F2AF BFAF |B,2 E2 E2 FG | ABAF DEFD | B,2GB,A,2 DE| F2AF EDEF | D2 D2 :|

I hope this makes sense musically - it’s been so long since I’ve done much abc’s.

If We Hadn’t Any Women In The World, X:13

Derived from the playing of Rose Flanagan and Laura Byrne on Forget Me Not.