The Nine Pint Coggie reel

Also known as The 9 Pint Coggie, The Nine Pint Coggle, The Nine Point Coggie.

There are 37 recordings of a tune by this name.

A tune by this name has been recorded together with Bog An Lochan (lots of times), Malcolm Finlay (lots of times), The Warlocks (lots of times), The Tarbolton (a few times) and The Capuchin (a few times).

The Nine Pint Coggie has been added to 6 tune sets.

The Nine Pint Coggie has been added to 111 tunebooks.

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Six settings

X: 1
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
D|B,EE/E/E E2DB|ADFD FAAd|B2BA Beef|dDD/D/D FEE:|
F|Eeef fedB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed e2df|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|fdec dBBc|dDD/D/D FEE||
X: 2
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dD~D2 FEED|
B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dBAF BEE:|
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
X: 3
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
X: 4
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
E2EF E2EB|AFED FAAd|BdAB defe|1 d2DD FEED:|2 d2DD FEE2||
Beef e2de|f2ed Bdde|Beef edef|afed e2ef|
abaf defe|dBAF ABde|faef defe|1 d2DD FEE2:|2 d2DD FEED||
X: 5
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:F|E/E/E EF E2 DB|AFED FAAd|BdAB defe|dD D/D/D FE E:|
F|Eeef e2 de|f2 ed Bdde|Beef edef|afed e/e/e ef|
abaf defe|dBAF ABde|faef deBd|dD D/D/D FE E|]
# Added by Tate .
X: 6
T: The Nine Pint Coggie
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
M: C|
L: 1/8
c \
| "G"B>G G/G/G ~G2 DE | "F"=F2cF "D7"Accd \
| "G"B>G G/G/G ~G2 DF | "G"G2gd "D7"Bd3 :|
f \
| "G"gagd Bcde | "F"=fgfc "D7"ABc^f \
| "G"gagd "(D7)"Bcdf | "G"g/f/e/f/ gd "D7"Bd2f |
| "G"gagd Bcde | "F"=fgfc "D7"ABce \
| (3dcB (3cBA "G"{F}G2 DF | "G"G2gd "D7"Bd3 |]

Eighteen comments

This tune has received Dow’s seal of approval, having been posted in te comments section for another tune, so here it is for reel. It’s a Scottish tune, and I’ve never heard it in a session, but it’s a mighty tune, and I enjoy playing at home, on the top deck of a night bus, or wherever I can get away with it. It appears in The Athole Collection (a collection of fiddle tunes collected in Perthshire in the late 19th century) and Alasdair Fraser plays it on his album, ‘The Driven Bow’. I don’t think it’s a staple of mdern Scots players but, like many old Scots tunes, it’s still widely played in Nova Scotia.

The two-semiquaver-and-one-quaver groupings (e.g. E/E/E) ar what Scots fiddlers call the ‘Birl’. It translates quite readily to the Irish bowed or tongued triplet, and can, on some notes, be replaced with a roll or cran.

Thanks for posting it David

Nine Pint Coggie as a double reel

David, can you have a try at my setting and see what you think? I find that with the Athole setting my ear wants to hear that 2nd part again. I’ve always played it (wrongly) as a double reel for this reason. Also my setting’s completely pentatonic and contains no C#s. I’ve transcribed bowed/tongued triplets as ~ to make it easier to read:

K:Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dD~D2 FEED|
B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|dBAF BEE:|
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||

Do you think it works or is it too long-winded like this?

I think it’s just plain greedy, playing it as a double reel. It’s a tasty enough tune that 16 bars are sufficient nutriment.

But being less moralistic, or frivolous, or whatever it was I was being, I think some single reels are inherently single and are best left as such. There are some reels commonly played double which, I think, don’t need to be. To my ears, the A-part of this tune gets a bit too repetitive if played double, the B-part less so. You could always play it ABB, a la Sailors Bonnet.

Anyway, whatever you do, don’t listen to me.

You’re right - bad, greedy me. I think I’ll start playing it ABB :-)

By the way, I’ve just tried "The Sailor’s Bonnet" before this tune and they go nicely together.

My setting is now officially this (it looks better on paper too actually). Cheers David.

K:Edor
|:D|B,EEF (3EFE DB|AFED FAAd|AB{d}BA defe|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||
|:D|Eeef ~e2dB|defe dBAd|Beed efab|afed ~e3f|
abaf edef|dBAF ABde|faef ~d2Be|1 dD~D2 FEE:|2 dBAF BEE||

PS What do you call ABB - "single double reels"?

In "Kerr’s Merry Melodies" there’s a completely different setting of The Nine Pint Coggie.Here it is. M:4/4 K:G |:Bg (3GGG G2 EF|=~F cF Accd|BG (3GGG G2 EF|G2gd Bd d2:|:gagd Bcde|=fgfc Accd|(3dcB (3cBA G2 EF|G2 gd Bd d2:|

Nine Pint Coggie

This great tune appears on Altan’s "Runaway Sunday" and is called "Clan Ranald." What a horrible mistake! It seems that the real "Clan Ranald" was recorded by them as "Lamey’s." I think they make at least one mistake in tune identification in every recording, which is as bad as Lunasa.

The Nine Points of Knavery

That’s the title for an Irish version listed in Joyce Collection. I happened to record Maire O’Keeffe and Jackie Daly playing it on the radio.

The Nine Pint Coggie

One of my music friends, who almost exclusively plays Cape Breton fiddle music, always repeats the second part, just as Dow does. So does Mairi Rankin on her solo album.

Here’s a flute-friendly version:

K: Edor
E2EF E2EB|AFED FAAd|BdAB defe|1 d2DD FEED:|2 d2DD FEE2||
Beef e2de|f2ed Bdde|Beef edef|afed e2ef|
abaf defe|dBAF ABde|faef defe|1 d2DD FEE2:|2 d2DD FEED||

It’s a mighty little tune as Quirl (David, Mountain Goat, or Billy) said. The Killarney Boys of Pleasure might be based on this old Scots tune.

Clan Ranald

Altan play "Nine Pint Coggie" on the recording Runaway Sunday, track 5. It’s the first tune in the set. They call it Clan Ranald, but the real title is 9 pint coggie.

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Composer??

Does anyone know if this has a known composer? Or is it just a Trad. tune?

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Read the first comments by "granama."

9 Pint Coggie

I wrote this reel might be the ancestor of The Killarney Boys of Pleasure. It was actually Charlie Piggott who pointed out the similarities between the two tunes.

A couple of years ago I had a chance to swap tunes with Charlie Piggott in a pub in Lisdoonvarna. He said he loved Scottish tunes, so I tried playing (or to play) Nine Pint Coggie: https://thesession.org/tunes/1683 After a medioce flute playing of myself, he pointed out the Scottish reel is similar to Killarney Boys, and then we played the tune together. In the end, he gave me this reel in return: https://thesession.org/tunes/4998

The Nine Pint Coggie (Kerr’s Merry Melodies)

This is a tune that I played thirty or more years ago in a group with a 5 string banjo player and others, and am picking up again. I hope others might want to do the same. He found it in Kerr’s Merry Melodies. It has a wonderful name, a coggie being a wooden drinking vessel, so nine pint one would be a true marvel.

There is a much more well known tune that has the same title, so I am naming this tune to avoid confusion. I am going to be playing this with a guitarist. I would appreciate any help that someone might give me with chords.

I am being lazy and am copying across daffyd’s transcription from the page of the better known tune of this name.

Thanks

Re: The Nine Pint Coggie (Scott Skinner’s Version)

Sorry I got in a bit of a fankle here, trying to be too clever.
This tune is in Kerr’s, but, I now realise it is a simpler version. More importantly, it does not have the F naturals in the second bar, which makes the tune for me.

This version is in the Scottish Violinist collection by Scott Skinner. So I have deleted the version in Kerr’s and have substituted Skinner’s version. I just copied across the transcription by John Chambers that I found on abcnotation.com. Nothing very clever on my part.

Someone, John Chambers I suppose, has added guitar chords, so that’s solved that problem , too.