The Old Walls Of Liscarroll jig

I found this tune on a cassette with no cover and titles many years ago ( maybe 20 ). The unknown musician played this jig on the flute, before “the old flail” and after “the ship in full sail”.

The first jig of the set was “the old flail”, the second this one and the third “the ship in full sail”.

LP was “Good Friends,Good Music” by “Boys Of The Lough”. The flute players were Cathal McConnell, Patsy Hanly and John Joe Maguire. Gan Ainm is “Patsy Doory’s”. Great flute tunes all three of them, yet nobody seems to have picked up on this one.

I think Kenny’s got it–this took me right back to my earliest days with the music, learning tunes off Boys of the Lough albums. Good Friends, Good Music came out closer to 30 years ago! Groan, I feel old… 🙂

(GM - choose the “Paddy” option - other is a typo.)

Thanks a lot Kenny!! I’m very happy to know the title and the album where came from that jig. That set of jigs is one of the early ( first?) I learnt, and I love it. Thanks again.
I believe “Patsy Doory” is not a well known jig, becouse no one of my friends know it, and I recently played it in some sessions with irish musicians, but the didn’t know it too.

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GM, I think Kenny might have meant “Paddy Doory’s”, like he said the first time. The second one looks like a typo to me.

Correct, Dow - sorry, Gian Marco. I seem to have “Patsy” on the brain lately.

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I’ve learned this tune (a bit different version)in the Meitheal Summer School 2004 and found it later by another name Old Walls of Liscarroll on the CD “The Humours of Derrybeha” from Pat O’ Connor. Great stuff!

I learned this tune from John Carty. He calls it James Murray’s (after a flute & fiddle player from the Tubbercurry area).

The setting he taught was slightly different:

X: 1
T:James Murray’s
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Dmix
ABA DEG|AGE Adc|AGE cEE|GEE DEG|
ABA DEG|AGE Adc|AGE cEE|DED D3:|
Adc ABc|d2e dcA|GEE cEE|GEE DEG|
Adc ABc|d2e dcA|GEE cEE|DED D3|
Adc ABc|d2e dcA|GEE cEE|GEE DEG|
Adc ABc|def dcA|GEE cEE|DED D3|

Pete

oops… but the A part really does repeat… not too good at ABC yet. 😉

So the beginning of the tune would read |:ABA DEG| etc.

Pete

I occasionally try to play this whole set on flute in sessions. By the time I get to Patsy Doorhy’s, because it starts off down low in D, no-one is listening and I feel I’m fighting against the conversation. Boo-hoo…..

See another transcription of the tune in Emix: https://thesession.org/tunes/5503

The listing for Cillian Vallely and Kevin Crawfords recording of this tune spells it as John Feehilly’s - slightly different version but definitely the same tune.

https://thesession.org/recordings/3284

here’s my transcription of the Crawford/Vallely version, transposed from Cmix on the recording.

X:1
T:John Feehily’s
R:Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Dmix
A3 DAD|AGE ABc|AGE cGE|GEA DEG|
A3 DAD|AGE ABc|AGE cGE| D3 DEG:|
Adc ABc|ded dcA|GEE cGE|GEA DEG|
|1Adc ABc|def dcA|GEE cGE|DED DEG:|
|2A3 DAD|AGE ABc|AGE cGE| D3 DEG||

I found this sturdy little tune on fiddler Jesse Smith’s latest CD, a collaboration with Colm Gannon (Box) & John Blake (Piano, Guitar & Flute) entitled “The Ewe With the Crooked Horn”. He and Colm pair this tune with “I’m A Man in Myself Like Oliver’s Bull” (a version of “Kitty’s Rambles” collected by P.W. Joyce). Colm is one of those most astonishing Box players who can play any tune in ANY key, having learned the instrument inside-out/outside-in/upside-down, etc. Because of this ability, the tunes heard on the album appear in some very unusual keys, some of which Jesse re-tunes the fiddle for, & others that he “does the work” on (he’s QUITE capable of playing in difficult keys, anyway). Since I am familiar with “Kitty’s Rambles” & what key it is usually played in, I used that to figure out what key “Drimroe Cross” should be. Thank heaven I play a fretted instrument & have a capo! Once again, enjoy!

Hi Jay! Nice tune, but there’s already a version here:
https://thesession.org/tunes/2899
that I found using tunepal. Among the titles are Old Walls of Liscarroll, John Feehily’s, and James Murray’s.

James is a friend of mine and he plays this tune like the second setting above, so that’s good enough for me.

In fact this is one of the “Unknown” tunes in James Murray’s section of Trip to Sligo (second tune page 166). Hmmm, also is “James Murray’s” on _The Mountain Road_ and Bua’s _Down the Green Fields_. No wonder this sounded so familiar!

portraitpainter, any chance you can ask James for more info on the tune?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWO-LDJWXN0

play video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxvYw8tJtc

play video

As heard at session in Austin, TX

I think that this jig comes from the playing of John Carty.
I found it on a sheet of music that I think was given to me by a friend of mine who attended a bouzouki workshop (is it in New Mexico?) and was taught this tune.
I think he told me that it came from John Carty, but I don’t know if John Carty was the teacher
or someone else taught the tune.

I tried the tune on concertina and on CGDA-tuned tenor banjo, and it was great on both.
But it has a limited range, so it can obviously be played on pipes, fiddle, flute, etc.

The second jig on the sheet is “Cuigiú Lasses”, which was chosen to follow Murraigh’s.
That jig is already here https://thesession.org/tunes/2187 .

Also, on the sheet, under the name Seamus Murraigh’s it says “(Sligo)”.
(And from the comments on https://thesession.org/tunes/2187 we know that
“Cuigiú Lasses” is from Mayo.)

Just looking at the abcs while on a bus, it looks to me like “Paddy Doory’s”

Duplicate of https://thesession.org/tunes/2899

This is likely named after James Murray, a flute player from Sligo.

That’d be this one, Kenny: https://thesession.org/tunes/1698

I agree, all three are basically the same tune.

Yes. The tune I posted is almost exactly the X: 2 setting of John Feelihy’s posted by Reverend 13 years ago.
https://thesession.org/tunes/2899
The mistake I made (I don’t know why!) was to think it was in Ador rather than Dmix.
I searched Ador jigs starting with ABA and didn’t find it.
If I had searched Dmix jigs, I would have found it.

This setting (and the alternate name) can be moved to tune 2899 and this 18464 deleted,
but I don’t know how to do that.

This is the version Frances Marriott got from Charlie Piggott who got it from Jackie Small.