I heard a tune that must have been this one, exactly once, I think from Robin Kynoch. I then went home and attempted to reconstruct it. I’ll post what I came up with under the title "Bad Memory of Conlon’s".
Life begins at forty
This is tune number forty. Have I come of age?
Anyway, this is a very popular tune at Scottish sessions which I’ve never heard played the same way twice. Certainly, I didn’t pick it up this way originally. It was composed by William MacPherson and Brumley Brae is an area in Elgin where you can gather brambles.
I learned this version from The Inverness Fiddlers when I played with them at their concert and I’m fairly sure that this is the original.
Here is something similar
Both versions are lovely though
Yes, it would appear to be the same tune. The notes on "Conlon’s" don’t throw much light on it and I’d imagine that the recording links may not refer to this tune.
"The Brumley Brae" is likely to be the original, though.
Thanks for posting this JohnJ.
Lovely tune. Must learn it.
Does anyone know the proper name for this tune
I learned this tune about 15 years ago in Liverpool, probably from Terry Coyne. What’s it really called? Steve
2nd time that ‘s been posted in the last 4 or 5 weeks. It’s "Brumley Brae".
I always knew it as "The Funny Reel" cause it’s funny - not your average tune
this is clearly a version of the Scottish tune, written by William MacPherson, called Brumley Brae
Brumley Brae in Elgin was once a favourite destination for courting couples. The tune was at one time popular with Scottish Country Dance bands, and with Strathspey and Reel Societies from where, I imagine, it spread to sessions.
Composed by William Mcpherson of Elgin. He has many great compositions
"Brumley Brae in Elgin was once a favourite destination for courting couples."
Mostly a place where holidaying cats and dogs bide their time, these days.
The kennels and cattery gave name to a "dug" who has become quite popular in the area:
re Brumley Brae
Here is a link to a book which has a load more Macpherson tunes in:
Coleburn is another of his that is well played. Cheeky accidentals and snappy bowing seem to be the house style!
Brumley Brae isn’t The Funny Reel/Crossing the Shannon. Some similarities but clearly not the same tune.
Sorry to disagree, David, but to me it’s very clearly the same tune. I play two settings of "Brumley Brae", the first I learned in a session (which was extremely similar to "The Funny Reel"), the second later when I heard the William MacPherson version. Same tune, but with a few differences.
You two are talking about different tunes. David is quite right that this is not "Crossing The Shannon" which was recorded by Joe Burke as "The Funny Reel". Nigel is correct that the tune posted above as "The Funny Reel" is "Brumley Brae".
That’s real funny!
What’s ‘funny’ to me is that I first heard this tune yesterday when I watched David Levine’s video link. Instantly liking it I went to check out other versions on you-tube. I couldn’t get beyond half way through the third version before I totally hated it. It kind of reminds me of that terrible (to me) tune, ‘Music For a Found Harmonium’, for which I had the same experience.
I’ve just noticed that "Brumley Brae" has been merged here with Conlon’s.
I’m fairly confident that the Willie MacPherson composition is the original although, perhaps, someone could enlighten me as regards the history of "Conlon’s" and why it was named as such? Is it from the playing of Conlon or what? Have we any information about the age of this tune (or the other titles) any indication that it predates Brumley Brae?
If not, I suggest that the Willie MacPherson composition is likely to be the original and, therefore, should be listed in the tunes section in its own right and not just an "add on" or alternative setting. By just lumping it in here, I think this shows disrespect to the composer.
I look forward to your thoughts.
I also note that someone..Jeremy?… has edited the title of my stting and renamed it Conlon’s?
WHY? The tune I submitted was Brumley Brae by Willie Macpherson.
I’ve certainly found it confusing. I was surprised to see when I looked for it that it’s not called ‘Brumley Brae’ here.
Any member can edit the tune title - hit the "edit this tune" button, in the upper right corner.
Well, you CAN’T edit the tune title here as far as I can see.
That was the first thing I checked as I was going to change it back. You only appear to have the facility to change the key signature and "ABC notation" and not the title, type of tune etc.
I’m fairly sure that Jeremy has done this himself as he likes to "tidy things up" as far as threads and discussions go.
However, the original tune setting may not necessarily be the most accurate although there’s nothing necessarily wrong in having alternative versions. It’s how things develop in traditional music.
If there is a known composer and official title, however, I’d like to think this would get priority on the tune data base or an entry in its own right at the very least.
I think you’re using the wrong button. You need to "edit this tune". Not just "edit" (a setting you’ve submitted).
Yes, but this only seems to apply to the original tune setting in the thread… i.e. Conlon’s… which was submitted by Davy. I don’t want to interfere with that.
However, "Brumley Brae" was submitted by me as a tune in its own right and NOT just as another setting.
Jeremy has obviously decided to transfer it here and now it is recorded just as another "setting". So, I can’t rename it on its own.
I could rename Davy’s setting of Conlon’s as Brumley Brae but that wouldn’t be my place to do so as he submitted it in good faith as that’s how he knows the tune.
However, I believe that Brumley Brae itself should be properly recognised as it appears to be the original. It should have been left alone as it was!
I also have an "inkling" that if I changed the title using the facility in the top right hand corner, all the settings would be renamed. I don’t think it would be fair of me to do that "off my own bat".
Yes that’s right. All the settings have to have the same title as there’s no support for individual titles. It’s up to you to decide if Conlon’s or Brumley Brae is the correct title. As it stands, it’s not really about ‘fairness’. Alternatively, if you consider them separate tunes, I’d suggest sending Jeremy a message to explain.
I’m convinced that Brumley Brae is an original composition and it has been published as such and credited to Willie MacPherson in "The Elgin Fiddler" book.
While I’m also fairly confident that Conlon’s and the other titles are variations of the original, I can’t say so for sure at this moment. They *may* be different tunes but similar sounding by coincidence. However, Kenny and Nigel seem to concur with me that they are just different settings.
However, I’ll need to find out a little more about the hstory of the other settings before I change the title here.
Re: Brumley Brae
Right, as far as I’m concerned, Brumley Brae is the original tune unless someone can tell me otherwise.
My setting is the same as the one by the composer Willie MacPherson