Dan Collins’ Father’s jig

Also known as Bill Collin’s, Bill Collins, Bill Collins’, The Boys From Ballymote, The Boys Of Ballymoat, The Boys Of Ballymoate, The Boys Of Ballymote, Collins’, Dan Collin’s Father’s, Dan Collin’s Father’s, Dan Collins Fathers, Dan Collins Favourite, Dan Collins’, Dan Sullivan’s Father’s, Daniel Michael Collins’s Father’s, The Harty Boys, The Hawk From Dundalk, The Hearty Boys Of Ballymote, The Humours Of Ballymote, Up In The Morning, Willie McGee’s.

There are 47 recordings of a tune by this name.

A tune by this name has been recorded together with The Mist On The Mountain (a few times), The Hearty Boys Of Ballymote (a few times), Joe Bane’s Schottische (a few times), Alan MacPherson Of Mosspark (a few times) and The Connaughtman’s Rambles (a few times).

Dan Collins’ Father’s has been added to 7 tune sets.

Dan Collins' Father's has been added to 194 tunebooks.

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Nine settings

X: 1
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e|d2B BAB|
d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e|edd d3:|
|:faa faa|afe f3|aba f2e|d2B BAB|
d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e| edd d3:|
X: 2
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
M: 12/8
|: d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e d2 B BAB |
d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e edd d3 :|
|: faa faa afe f3 | aba f2 e d2 B BAB |
d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e edd d3 :|
X: 3
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
M: 12/8
|: G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A G2 E EDE |
G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A AGG G3 :|
|: Bdd Bdd dBA B3 | ded B2 A G2 E EDE |
G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A AGG G3 :|
X: 4
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:d2A BAF|def a3|~a3 f2e|d2d gfe|
d2A BAF|def a3|~a3 f2e|edc d3:|
|:faa faa|afe f3|~a3 f2e|d2d gfe|
d2A BAF|def a3|~a3 f2e|edc d3:|
X: 5
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e|dBB gfe|
d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e|edc d2e:|
|:faa faa|fab afe|fab afd|e3 gfe|
d2A BAB|def a3|aba f2e| edc d3:|
X: 6
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
M: 12/8
|: BA |G2 D E^DE GAB =d2 B | ded B2 A BGE E^DE |
GDD E^DE GG/A/B =d3 | ded B2 A AGF G :|
|: GA |B2 d Bde dBA B2 c | ded B2 A BGE E^DE |
G2 D E^DE GAB =d2 ^c | ded B2 A AGF G :|
X: 7
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: c |d2 A B^AB def =a2 f | aba f2 e edd dfe |
dAA B^AB dd/e/f =a3 | aba f2 e edd d2 :|
|: g |faa faa afe f2 g | aa/a/a ff/f/f dB/B/^A BAB |
d2 A B^AB dd/e/f =a2 f | aba f2 e edd d2 :|
X: 8
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: f2 e |d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | gBB e2 d | cAA Ag/f/e |
d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | ged cBc |[1 d3 :|[2 d3- ||
|: dfe |dAA fAA | afe def | gBB e2 d | cAA Afe |
[1 dAA fAA | afe def | ged cBc | d3- :|
[2 d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | ged cBc | d3 |]
X: 9
T: Dan Collins' Father's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
M: 12/8
d |:d2 A BAB def a2 f | aba f2 e dBB gfe |
dAA BAB def a2 f |[1 aba f2 e edc dfe :|[2 aba f2 e edc d2 ||
|: e |faa fab afe fef | aba f2 e dBB gfe |
dAA BAB def a2 f |[1 aba f2 e edc d2 :|[2 aba f2 e edc dfe |]

Twenty-eight comments

Jig or slide?

To my ears, this sounds a lot more like a slide than a jig.

Does anyone else think so?

Dan Sullivan’s Father?

Isn’t this more commonly known as "Bill Collins’ " jig ? It is a 6/8 rather than a slide, but I agree, Jeremy, it does have the "feel" of a slide about it.

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Yep, written in 6/8 the phrases carry over two bars. They’d fit into 12/8 just fine. Either way, I’d call it a slide.

Posted .

Slide or Jig

It must be what you get used to in that we always play this as the "Bill Collins" jig followed by the Kilmovee and Dan the Cobbler - everyone seems to be OK with the 6/8 timing.

hmmm…we usually play it as a march

Dan Sullivan’s Father’s Jig

Tony Sullivan calls it by this name.I think it’s in his book,The Irish Banjo

BBC Folk Session

On this session site the tune seems to be called the Boys of Ballymote.

As a PS to my original comment, I think the difference is in the first phrase of the first bar where we’ve always played dAA rather than d2A shown here. This gets your mind into 6/8 rather than slide mode.

“Bill Collins’ Jig” / “Dan Collins’ Jig” / “Dan Collins’ Father’s Jig”

Bill Collins, an Irish musician from Gort in County Galway is father to Dan Collins of Shanachie Records fame and infamy… It seems that because of a recording by DeDannan this tune too often gets confused with another melody’s name ~ that of "The Hearty Boys of Ballymoate", or Ballymote, or "The Boys of ~"… It isn’t the same melody. Hey Slainte, that tune isn’t on site yet!!!

It’s called "The Hearty Boys of Ballinamore" on the Champions of Ireland: concertina CD but this is probably a mistake.

This is the Last tune in the set Jock Cawleys Jigs on David Munnellys cd Swing.

Boys of Ballymote

This tune is on Wolfstones album, the chase. (except they spell in ballymoat)

Its also in ‘HO-RO-GHEALLAIDH volume two of session tunes for scottish fiddlers’, which is a great book

…..the above is played in G of course..

On PEI we know this tune as Dan Collins Father’s Jig.

I usually play this in G too, and mixed in with slides/single jigs…

I’ll return and add a G transcript later…

“Bill Collins’ Jig” ~either way

First this transcription transposed to G Major ~

X: 1
T: Bill Collins’
T: Dan Collins’ Father’s
T: Dan Sullivan’s Father’s
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Dmaj
|: d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e d2 B BAB |
d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e edd d3 :|
|: faa faa afe f3 | aba f2 e d2 B BAB |
d2 A BAB def a3 | aba f2 e edd d3 :|
K: GMaj
|: G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A G2 E EDE |
G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A AGG G3 :|
|: Bdd Bdd dBA B3 | ded B2 A G2 E EDE |
G2 D EDE GAB d3 | ded B2 A AGG G3 :|

& other possibilities in G ~ and then back to D…

X: 2
T: Bill Collins’
T: Dan Collins’ Father’s
T: Dan Sullivan’s Father’s
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: GMaj
|: BA |\
G2 D E^DE GAB =d2 B | ded B2 A BGE E^DE |
GDD E^DE GG/A/B =d3 | ded B2 A AGF G :|
|: GA |\
B2 d Bde dBA B2 c | ded B2 A BGE E^DE |
G2 D E^DE GAB =d2 ^c | ded B2 A AGF G :|

X: 3
T: Bill Collins’ Jig
T: Dan Collins’ Father’s Jig
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: DMaj
|: c |\
d2 A B^AB def =a2 f | aba f2 e edd dfe |
dAA B^AB dd/e/f =a3 | aba f2 e edd d2 :|
|: g |\
faa faa afe f2 g | aa/a/a ff/f/f dB/B/^A BAB |
d2 A B^AB dd/e/f =a2 f | aba f2 e edd d2 :|

The more I reacquaint myself with this the more I realize I’ve played it in both keys and mixed with slides and jigs. However you take it, it’s a fun tune.

Discusion: last jig of Kathyrn Tickell / Alistair Anderson set

# Posted on January 18th 2012 by cac
https://thesession.org/discussions/29175

Alistair Anderson & Kathryn Tickell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAorU3G4r9E

3 Jigs ~ "Snowy Monday" / "Alistair J Sim" / "Bill Collins’ Jig"

"Snowy Monday" ~ C: Willy Taylor
Submitted on December 17th 2002 by Dr. Dow.
https://thesession.org/tunes/1222

"Alistair J. Sim" ~ C: Willy Taylor
Submitted on March 20th 2007 by ceolachan.
https://thesession.org/tunes/6974

“Bill Collins’ Jig” / “Dan Collins’ Father’s Jig”

X: 4
T: Bill Collins’ Jig
T: Dan Collins’ Father’s Jig
S: Kathyrn Tickell, fiddle & Alistair Anderson, English concertina
S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAorU3G4r9E

M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: DMaj
|: f2 e |\
d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | gBB e2 d | cAA Ag/f/e |
d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | ged cBc |[1 d3 :|[2 d3- dfe ||
|: dAA fAA | afe def | gBB e2 d | cAA Afe |
[1 dAA fAA | afe def | ged cBc | d3- dfe :|
[2 d2 A BAB | Adf a2 f | ged cBc | d3 |]

The above is different enough to likely have its own name and deserve a separate listing. I’ll keep knockin; the noggin and looking around and asking… If I find out I’ll let you know and add and link… ;-)

Dan Sullivan’s Father’s, X:4

Setting from Turlach Boylan’s album "The Tidy Cottage", part of the track "Con Cassidy’s Jigs"

Dan Collins’ Father’s, X:5

A lovely tune, not sure where this one came from especially considering the general consensus on the tune setting above, but I think this version is nice enough to include.
This one was brought up recently at a session, where the B part was played with 2 endings. The second was as I posted, I can’t remember the first and quite honestly it’s not worth trying anyway!

This one isn’t even a single jig, and doesn’t fit as a slide either (this coming from someone who plays Chase Me Charlie as a slide), leave it as a jig. Fits nicely before Brendan Tonra’s and the Munster Jig.

X: 6 “Dan Collins’ Father’s”

# Posted by ceolachan - January 14th, 2012

X: 7 “Dan Collins’ Father’s”

# Posted by ceolachan - January 14th, 2012

X: 8 “Bill Collins’ Jig” - Kathyrn Tickell, fiddle & Alistair Anderson, English concertina

# Posted by ceolachan - January 18th, 2012