Hogties reel

The tune is from an accordionist and may be his original piece.
If played on a whistle I believe it sounds fine. The low notes
are easier to find if played up a fifth up (A dorian on a D whistle).
Both positions afford an opportunity to try the fingers out on a sequence of notes that may be useful in other dorian situations.

could have shown more care in abc use

Phil Cunningham (Accordionist)

the tune written here is only two of the four parts and is in the wrong key.

Perhaps "not in the key it was written in and I know two more parts" might be more precise. So, what key did Mr. Cunningham write it in and where are the two missing parts, szifty? We’d love to see them.

Zina

I think it was written in Ador. Sziffty, are you sure that there are two missng parts?

szifty is correct, although he/she might have pointed it out more delicately. The tune was composed with 4 parts, and in the scale of the Highland bagpipe, the equivalent of "A" to "a" on a whistle.
If some-one wants to check it , "Relativity" recorded it on their LP/now CD "Gathering Pace". The differences in the 3rd and 4th parts are very slight/subtle, and are quite often left out - eg by Brian Finnegan, whether by accident or design, I couldn’t say.

T:Hogties
M:4/4
L:1/8
S:Brian Finnegan
Z:g.m.p
K:EDor
d|:BABd ~E2ed|BABc dAcd|BABd ~E2ed|BABd FE~E2|
BABd ~E2ed|BABc dAcd|e2dB ABdA|BdAd FE~E2:|
|:eB(3BBB e2dB|BABc d2cd|eB(3BBB e2dB|BABd FE~E2|
|eB(3BBB e2dB|BABc d2cd|e2dB ABdA|BdAd FE~E2:|

yeah sorry about that folks must have been tired.
phil has released a book of tunes its in there. ill try to be ,ore freindly next time!!!!!

I heard this tune in a set by the Poozies; it’s addicting. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th parts sound like variations of a theme, rather than completely different parts, to me at least.

In the Poozies version, the chords are Am Em G Am G Em…. Is this the way phil wrote it? I’m going to have to try to find his book, I guess.

Very fun to pick on mandolin; great tune!

https://thesession.org/tunes/290

this transcription is better.

Agreed.

Key signature: A Dorian
Submitted on July 24th 2007 by pipingtool.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7537

Yes, this is one of those cases where it would be better to axe the earlier transcription and move anything of value, including even those ABCs, to here, taking a deep breath and crossing my fingers… 😏

https://thesession.org/tunes/290/comments

Phil wrote this for my brother, incidentally. I have no idea how the title came about.

I have it on good authority that our webmaster appreciates the quality of this transcription and has given it his blessing…

Kenny, was there a previous title? Is there anymore to the story of its composition and dedication ~ when, where and why? Does your brother have anything to add?

Phil says that he composed this honour of a fellow member of Silly Wizard who used the term ‘Hogtie’ (which he pronounced like the uncomfortable restraining position) in place of other four letter words eg. "Pass the hogtied salt, please, your holiness."

Youtube the treasure trove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kudEyu5SQZ4

play video

When exactly did Phil Cunningham compose this? It is a fairly recent tune anyhow. But here on the harp it sounds like it’s a dozen score years old and more + glitters like sunshine on a summer ocean! An cór!

"Relativity" recorded it in 1987. See comments on the better transcription linked by "ceolachan" above.

Here’s an attempt to catch what decsonthedecks (youtube link above) is doing:

X:1
T:Hogties
M:4/4
L:1/8
S:www.youtube.com/watch?v=kudEyu5SQZ4

play video

K:A Mixolydian
e2d2 A2gf|edef g2fg|e2d2 A2ag|edeg BAA/A/A|
edeg A2gf|edef g2e/f/g|a2ge degd|gedg BAA/A/A:||
aeee a2ge|dBde|g2eg|a2e/e/e a2ge|d2eg BAA/A/A|
bee/e/e a2ge|dadf g2e/f/g|aege d2fg|f/g/ded BAA/A/A:||
eAA/A/A eAg2|eAef gAfg|eAA/A/A eA/A/ag|edeg BAA/A/A|
eAAA eAg2|eA/A/ef g2fg|a2ge degd|gdeg BAA/A/A:||

Pretty hot stuff!

The harp player here sounds like he might also be a piper, by the way he phrases his reel. There’s a lot of swing in what he does and some funky medieval cum modern chords in it too. I’ll adopt this version as my own til someone -at the session- can provide us with the original version.?

Note how this tune can either be played in D, E or A since it hasn’t got any thirds. I recommand A or D on the fiddle and definitely D on the the Uilleann pipe.

In D it also compares more easily w The Song Of The Chanter
https://thesession.org/tunes/2082 with which it has many common features. (it sounds a bit as if it was rewritten w Part1 and 2 mixed together)
Both tunes are classic!
Here’s a 3 part version in D, simply conflated, warts and all, from the above submissions + transposed:
X:1
T:Hogties
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D Mixolydian
AGAc D2dc|AGAB cGBc|AGAc D2dc|AGAc EDDD|
AGAc D2dc|AGAB cGBc|d2cA GAcG|AcGc EDDc:||
dA A/A/A d2cA|AGAB c2Bc|dA A/A/A d2cA|AGAc EDD2|
|dA A/A/A d2cA|AGAB c2Bc|d2cA GAcG|AcGc EDD2:||
dD D/D/D d2cB|AGAB c2Bc|AD D/D/D A2cB|AGAc EDDD|
dD D/D/D d2cB|AGAB c2Bc|d2cB GAcG|AcGE D4:||

The A version above has actually 4 parts, the 4th being a repeat of the 2d part.

Hogties was already recorded in 1984 by what I gather.
Check http://www.philcunningham.com/about/ out, it’s worth it.

I’ve posted a version which is intended to sound like title tune of
the Hogties Reel set from the above album - Its very gnarly.

http://rodan.bugs3.com/Here/Learn/HogtiesReel-X1.mp3 full speed
http://rodan.bugs3.com/Here/Learn/HogtiesReel-X2.mp3 slower
http://rodan.bugs3.com/Here/Learn/HogtiesReel-X2.mp3 slower still
Its probably not quite right, any any improvements are welcome.