Is it because it ain’t Irish 🙂 ?
I’m surprised this tune has never been posted before. It gets played frequently at nearly every session I been to—maybe, done to death, some might argue. Possibly, it’s never been posted because it’s less popular in "pure Irish sessions"-I don’t know.
I’ve never heard this tune played in a U.S Irish session. Here, it’s mainly associated with old-time fiddling and contra-dance music. It’s also called Seneca Square Dance. It’s been years since I’ve played this tune and its posting here brings back some fond memories. I might try it out on the pipes just for giggles and grins.
I was going to say that too, Bill. I thought it was an American Old Time tune, as I learned it in an Appalachian fiddle class.
I first heard this tune some years ago in a gig in Scotland, but the band couldn’t tell me where it came from. It’s the only time I’ve heard it live, and we like to play it now and then in a very lively mood.
Related to “Shoot That Turkey Buzzard”
This is certainly and Old-time tune, although Aly Bain has recorded it, which probably accounts for any currency it might have in Ireland or Scotland. I expect it would be frowned upon in most American Irish sessions, however, regardless of which Celtic Fiddle God may have dabbled in it. Narry the twain shall meet, I reckon.
The tune is related to "Shoot That Turkey Buzzard" and there is a quite interesting discussion of this and another very similar tune called "Davy Dugger", both played by the very fine Kentucky fiddler Clyde Davenport to be found on the following link:
This discussion points up the way old-time fiddlers consider tunes to be seperate and distinct based on seemingly slight variations.
One old-timer once said "They ain’t no notes to it, you just play it!" Says a lot about trying to play old-time tunes from notation; perhaps more than any other fiddle tradition, old-time defies transcription.
Is there a dance specifically to this tune ?
After playing this at a session at a folk festival earlier this year, I was asked if there is Seneca Square Dance dance to go with the tune. None of my New England contacts have been able to answer this yet.
Discussion: Dance figures for Seneca Square Dance
# Posted on March 12th 2012 by Guernsey Pete
“Waiting For The Federals” / “Seneca Square Dance”
Before submitting other takes for this, here’s dafydd’s transcription again only simplified ~
T: Waiting For The Federals
|: GA |\
B4 B2 AB | d2 B2 BA G2 | B4 d3 B | ABAG E2 D2 |
B4 B2 AB | d2 B2 BA G2 | ABAG E2 F2 | G3 A G2 :|
|: Bd |\
g4 gage | d2 B2 BA G2 | g4 gfga | be- ef e3 f |
gaba g2 ge | eged BA G2 | ABAG E2 F2 | G3 A G2 :|
Also recorded by Ry Cooder