Eddie Moloney’s Favorite
I have seen this tune with various other names: Paddy Doorhy’s, The Drogheda Lasses, Mary of the Grove. Frankie Kennedy recorded a haunting and beautiful version of this with a slow air on one of the early Altan CD’s (Harvest Storm?). He plays it very slowly and with a strong "dotted" feeling, B2G>BE>BG etc. I knew it originally from Loesberg’s "An Irish Tunebook, Vol. 2" (Ossian), where it has different measures 4 and 8, and a different B part. I think it is one of those tunes that can be started slow and than speeded up with a very nice effect.
Bloomfield, if you know this tune by other names, please add that information under "Details". Click on "Do you know this tune by another name" and add each name one at a time.
I Like it!
Nice tune, Bloomfield! I may transpose it to D dorian so I can play it with Tam Lin and the Gan Ainm reel that I usually follow it with. Or I may just leave it in E and make the jump!
Jeremy, I added the tune names.
Jeff, could you post that Gan Ainm reel? And perhaps the version of Tam Lin you play? Thanks.
Same name different tune
I was looking for Paddy Doorhy’s as a jig and trying to get the sheetmusic, and when I saw it I realised it was a different tune to the one I heard. The jig I’m talking about is played by Martin O’Sullivan from Galway in his tape "The Glann Shore", I’m trying to learn it by listening. I’ll try to find out under which other names is known, maybe it is already in this site! Anyway, I’ve learnt the reel and it is really beautiful.
I can confirm that this is a Paddy Doorhy composition. I received an email from Paddy’s daughter, Delia Flannery, and when I quized her on this tune, she said it was a composition of her father’s.
The aug 2002 issue of Treoir lists this as "John Egan’s Reel", together with another reel and a polka. Whoever did it, it’s a nice reel.
Not the one in Moneymusk
The "John Egan’s" piece in the Moneymusk album is a hornpipe.
Dobbin’s Flowery Vale
According to the liner notes of Altan’s "The First Ten Years," Frankie Kennedy got this tune as "Dobbin’s Flowery Vale" from the singing of Robert Cinnamond from Glenavy, Co. Antrim.
Breathtakingly beautiful air (reel)! I was about to post this tune just before now and bother Jeremy again. I haven’t realized it’s already here. Great!
Paul McGrattan and Paul O’Shaughnessy play this tune quite fast in their "Within a Mile of Dublin," but I prefer playing rather slowly. Anyway, great, great tune.
John Egan’s (aka. Dobbin’s Flowery Vale)
This beautiful reel is also on Oisin MacDiarmada’s "Ar An Bhfidil." It’s played as a double reel.
How could i have lived this long without playing this lovely reel?
Also recorded by Frankie Gavin & Alec Finn
Frankie Gavin follows ‘The Pigeon on the Gate’ with a version of this on the ‘Traditional Music of Ireland’ album. It’s not listed on the original album sleeve, or the CD re-release.
Frankie Kennedy’s version
I found this whilst browsing the net and have transferred it here, having made minor alterations to the abc (but not to the actual notes):
T: Dobbin’s Flowery Vale
S: Frankie Kennedy
R: slow reel
N: Frankie Kennedy recorded this using a Bb flute. This transcription is transposed and written for D flute
D: Altan - Harvest Storm
H: Frankie Kennedy learned this from a tape of a BBC recording of Robert Cinnamond of Glenavy, Co. Antrim
Z: Tom Madden
B2GB EBGB|A2FA DAFA|B2GB EBGA|(3Bcd ef gfed|
B2GB EBGB|A2FA DAFA|BAGF EFGA|(3Bcd ed (3Bcd ef||
g2gf gfed|BdA=c Bdef|g2gf gfed|BdA=c BEef|
gbaf gfed|B2AB GAFG|EDEF GzGA|AGdB gfed||
% Variation B-part bars 5-6 |g2gf gfed|B2AB GBFB|
This reel has nothing to do with the title "Dobbin’s Flowery Vale" . Frankie learned the air of the song of that name from Robert Cinnamond, and stuck this reel after it. The only thing the 2 distinctly separate tunes have in common is that Frankie recorded them one after the other.
Sorry, my bad. I should have spotted that. That’ll teach me to cut and paste…
Thanks Kenny. I realised the mistake only recently.
AKA Carty’s Pigeon (in D dorian instead of E dorian)
There’s a nice version of this tune in D dorian on Pat O’Connor’s first album The Green Mountain. He calls it Carty’s Pigeon.
The Finish group Rajaton does a deadly old version of this tune in seven part vocal harmony. It’s quite something to hear.
the first part has parts like parts in
Here is a Youtube clip featuring Conor Tully on fiddle, Sean Casey on Banjo and Frank Hogan on Mandola playing the set "Pigeon on the Gate, Drogheda Lassies". I really love the playing, lovely lilting pace - sedate compared to the same set on the Frankie Gavin and Alec Finn album.
Eddie Moloney’s Favourite
Watch Eddie Moloney’s son, Sean play the reel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRylZ2iEk_A&feature=share&list=ULaRylZ2iEk_A
I asked Sean via email about the source of this tune - he said his dad got it from his grandfather, Stephen Moloney, who called it "The Soldier Who Returned".
Setting #3: Mick Gavin
plays a setting with a rather different B part on the Flags Of Dublin LP
This tune appears in the Larry Smyth Manuscript c.1890-1920, under the title "The Drogheda Reel". Smyth (d.1930) was from Abbeylara, Co. Longford. Josephine Keegan has published Smyth’s version in her book which she sourced through a Longford contact who in turn sourced from Fr. John Quinn, Gortletteragh Co. Leitrim, a proponent of local Longford and Leitrim music. He used this tune from the Smyth MS in one of his Ceili Bands of the 1970s .
is from Sean Moloney’s flute (v.s.), first iteration.
is from the playing of Conor, Sean and Frank in the other above clip.
My version of this great tune