Sandansko Oro slip jig

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Four settings

1
X: 1
T: Sandansko Oro
R: slip jig
M: 9/8
L: 1/8
K: Emin
|[M:9/8]E2 B2 A2 B2A|[M:13/8] GAAG BA A2G GFFE| [M:9/8] E>F GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GF FEFE E3 E2E2|
[M:9/8]E2 B2 A2 B2A|[M:13/8] GAAG BA A2G GFFE| [M:9/8] EF GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GFFE EF E2D E2E2|
[M:9/8] EF GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GFFE FA A3 B2GF|[M:9/8] EF GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GFFE EF E2D E2E2|
[M:9/8] EF GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GFFE FA A3 B2GF|[M:9/8] EF GGGF A2G|[M:13/8] GFFE EF E2D E2E2|
2
X: 2
T: Sandansko Oro
R: slip jig
M: 9/8
L: 1/8
K: Emin
E2 B2 A2 B2A GA AG BA A2G GF FE|EF GG GF A2G GF FE EF E2D E2 E2||
EF GG GF A2G GF FE FA A3 B2 GF|EF GG GF A2G GF FE EF E2D E2 E2||
# Added by Mario .
3
X: 3
T: Sandansko Oro
R: slip jig
M: 9/8
L: 1/8
K: Emin
E2B2A2B3A2AGBAA2B|GFFEEFG2GFA2GGFFEEFG3|EFGAFEB2A2B3A2AGBAA2B|GFFEEFG2GFA2GGFFEEFE7|
|:EFG2GFA2GGFFEGAA2BGFFE|EFG2GFA2GGFFEEFE7:|
4
X: 4
T: Sandansko Oro
R: slip jig
M: 9/8
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
[M: 9/8] |: E2 B2 A2 BBB | AA AG BA AAG | [M: 4/8] GF FE |
[M: 9/8] EF GD GF AAG | GF FE FE EEB |[1 [M: 4/8] EF GA :|[2 [M: 4/8] EE E2 ||
[M: 9/8] |: EF GD GF AAG | GF FE GA AAB | [M: 4/8] AG GF |
[M: 9/8] EF GD GF AAG | GF FE FE EEB | [M: 4/8] EE E2 :|
[M: 9/8]|: fg aa ag ggf | fg ab c'b aag | [M: 4/8] fg gf |
[M: 9/8] fg aa ag ggf | fg ab ag gfg | [M: 4/8] ff f2 :|

Thirteen comments

It might be in 22/8, but the range is slight and the tune is slow. If it were a song, I think even I might be able manage it. The Balkan tunes from the Andy Irvine corpus don’t really come any easier than this. But it still sounds very good on the CD.

I have this tune on a CD by Danny Thompson and his band, who do these tunes really well. I went to see them live and it was one of the best gigs I’ve ever seen. BTW I understood that this was a Macedonian "Oro" rather than Bulgarian "Horo", but I could be wrong.

Dropping the H

Yep it should be a macedonian Oro, not a Bulgarian Horo. Don’t know how that one slipped by me twice!

You can change it if you go to "edit details"

Well…running late for this one…nice tune. There’s a very good version, recorded by Ross Daly (an Irishman living in Greece who’s playing the Cretan Lyra among other instruments) & Friends on an album called Kin Kin.

This is usually transcribed as 22/8.

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Go on Mario, this is where you could add a transcription without any danger of guff… ๐Ÿ˜‰

LOL…’c’…a casual (or not so casual?) reader could easily be lulled into believing that you’re agitating…

So you’re taking the part of the…how you call it…agent provocateur? Advocati diaboli? ๐Ÿ˜‰

And there’s really no need for a new (or different) transcription, as it is absolutely accurate. Only thing is that these tunes are really transcribed as 22/8. No need for a change of time signature. Stepwise, it would be
2-2-2-3 / 2-2-2-3 / 2-2, or 9/8 - 9/8 - 4/8.

Love that Balkan stuff! Also Greek music. And Asia Minor & Turkey have a lot to offer as well! Ah….! ๐Ÿ˜‰

X: 1
T: Sandansko Oro
C: Macedonia
M: 22/8
L: 1/8
K: Em


% 2-2-2-3 / 2-2-2-3 / 2-2

E2 B2 A2 B2A GA AG BA A2G GF FE|EF GG GF A2G GF FE FE E3 E2 E2|
E2 B2 A2 B2A GA AG BA A2G GF FE|EF GG GF A2G GF FE EF E2D E2 E2||

EF GG GF A2G GF FE FA A3 B2 GF|EF GG GF A2G GF FE EF E2D E2 E2|
EF GG GF A2G GF FE FA A3 B2 GF|EF GG GF A2G GF FE EF E2D E2 E2||

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Now we need to find a goat to spit and some slivovitz… ๐Ÿ˜‰

"Sandansko Oro" ~ rescued duplication

three-two
Key signature: e minor
Submitted on April 13th 2009 by krysolove
~ /tunes/9523

Submitted as ~

X: 2
T: Sandansko
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: three-two
K: Emin
E2B2A2B3A2AGBAA2B|GFFEEFG2GFA2GGFFEEFG3|EFGAFEB2A2B3A2AGBAA2B|GFFEEFG2GFA2GGFFEEFE7|
|:EFG2GFA2GGFFEGAA2BGFFE|EFG2GFA2GGFFEEFE7:|

Makedonian oro, as Ross Daly plays it on the album "Kin-Kin" in set with "Maysko oro". It’s charming and has mind-breaking meter 22/8.

# Posted on April 13th 2009 by krysolove

That transcription under adjustments ~

X: 2
T: Sandansko
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: three-two
K: Emin
E2 B2 A2 B3 A2 AG BA A2 B GF FE |
EF G2 GF A2 G GF FE EF G3 EF GA |
FE B2 A2 B3 A2 AG BA A2 B GF FE |
EF G2 GF A2 G GF FE EF E3- E4 |]
|: EF G2 GF A2 G GF FE GA A2 B GF FE |
EF G2 GF A2 G GF FE EF E3- E4 :|

"Sandansko Oro" ~ another transcription

X: 3
T: Sandansko
M: 22/8 (22/16)
L: 1/8
R: Macedonian Oro
K: Emin
E2 B2 A2 BBB AA AG BA AAG GF FE |
EF GD GF AAG GF FE FE EEB EF GA |
E2 B2 A2 BBB AA AG BA AAG GF FE |
EF GD GF AAG GF FE FE EEB EE E2 ||
|: EF GD GF AAG GF FE GA AAB AG GF |
EF GD GF AAG GF FE FE EEB EE E2 :|
K: DMaj
|: fg aa ag ggf fg ab c’b aag fg gf |
fg aa ag ggf fg ab ag gfg ff f2 :|

A suggested sequence ~
ABABCAB ~ , with tempo gradually rising, 1/8 = 150 - 200…

C-part, F Phrygian (##),
can be played an octave lower ~

|: FG AA AG GGF FG AB cB AAG FG GF |
FG AA AG GGF FG AB AG GFG FF F2 :|

Here’s another way of looking at it ~

X: 3
T: Sandansko
M: 9/8 + 4/8 (9/16 + 4/16)
L: 1/8
R: Macedonian Oro
K: Emin
[M: 9/8] |: E2 B2 A2 BBB | AA AG BA AAG | [M: 4/8] GF FE |
[M: 9/8] EF GD GF AAG | GF FE FE EEB |[1 [M: 4/8] EF GA :|[2 [M: 4/8] EE E2 ||
[M: 9/8] |: EF GD GF AAG | GF FE GA AAB | [M: 4/8] AG GF |
[M: 9/8] EF GD GF AAG | GF FE FE EEB | [M: 4/8] EE E2 :|
K: DMaj
[M: 9/8]|: fg aa ag ggf | fg ab c’b aag | [M: 4/8] fg gf |
[M: 9/8] fg aa ag ggf | fg ab ag gfg | [M: 4/8] ff f2 :|

A second part, roughly following in thirds, can be used for accompaniment, for example, the first 22/8 measure ~

E2 d2 c2 ddd Bc cB dc ccB BA AG | ~

Sandansko Oro

I first heard this tune years ago played by Andy Irvine and Gerry O Beirne . It was on a tribute site made by Mike Berro i think his name is …anyway the link is dead now : ( he had flimed the lads at a live concert in California and posted a video of them playing this tune .
I think its a fantastic tune, i can finally grasp it now . Thank you very much !!!

Sandansko Oro - not a slip jig

Congratulations on a fabulous web site which is full of great resources and interesting discussions.

There’s a great version of Sandansko Oro on a Topic album of tunes by original musicians from the region.

I don’t think that "slip jig" is a good term to apply to a Balkan 9/8 (either on its own or as part of a 22-beat structure). A slip jig is an equal triple rhythm, the metre being 3 units of 3/8 (3-3-3); to the best of my limited knowledge this just doesn’t come up in Bulgarian or Macedonian repertoire.

Balkan 9/8 is almost always split 2-2-2-3 (or in some Greek tunes 4-2-3), and the 2-2-2-3 is essentially a quadruple rhythm with a limp (the longer 3 in place of the otherwise fourth instance 2 in a common time rhythm). This quadruple rhythm is visible in many of the dances that accompany the 9/8 tunes, and is very audible in the drumming which, whatever else it does, gives a strong emphasis at the start of each 2 and 3. It’s often also apparent in the contributions of the supporting instruments.

Calling Balkan 9/8 tunes slip jigs looks to me like the application of a pretty strong green filter to an international picture. It is liable to mislead as to what the rhythm is actually doing (I haven’t seen a slip jig danced, but I can’t imagine a dance fitting a 9/8 slip jig tune also fitting a 2-2-2-3). A rhythm is more than just a time signature.