The Gander In The Pratie Hole jig

Interesting… I learned this as the Gander About the Pratie Hole, and with c naturals throughout the second part.

This tune is in O’Neills in the key of G (only f’s are sharp). It’s also how it was recorded by Planxty. I’m wondering if this was posted in error?

I think I’ve figured what’s going on here. Ketida, by "G" I think you probably mean Dmix. This tune can be written in either key signature, Dmaj or Dmix. If you write it in Dmix (1#), the last C of the first part has to have a # accidental. If you write it in Dmaj (2#’s), the C’s in bars 2, 4 and 6 of the 2nd part need to have a natural accidental (thereby leaving the last C as sharp). Since the person posting this has chosen to do the latter, the 2nd part requires accidentals, but the sharp sign (^) has (accidentally) been written instead of the natural (_). This *must* be a mistake because if the transcriber had meant these to be C#’s they would have simply been catered for by the key signature. Incidentally, I’ve heard that gander as being "in", "about" and "at". Gets everywhere 🙂

I learned that tune from Brain Gallagher in Milltown some years ago.
It’s a great tune to exercice crans and triplets.
Replace the first /fifth bar | FAD FAD| with
|(3 FGA D (3FGA D| (very tight fingering =Staccato)
or with a cran
|(3DDD D (3DDD D| (shows main Rythm)
|{DFDGDAD} {DFDGDAD} | (shows all the notes played)
In fact the fingers movement is the same, but the second sample is off knee.
But the rythm of the finger movements is different, in the first variation the the F,G and A has to be open much longertahn in the second variation.

Keep cranning

i heard this tune in a session in clare not long ago and after it came another which i had never heard before but very much liked. what tunes do people like putting after the prattie hole??

A jig in E dorian would sound nice perhaps.

Langstroms Pony, The Ships in Full Sail, Out on the Ocean - all jigs so far. I think I used to play a reel after it - can’t remember what it was though - will think about it for a while and get back to you.

Nice to be reminded this tune even existed though!!

Oh aye - Walls of Liscaroll would also work

K: D Mixolydian (~ because it just doesn’t sound ‘Major’ to me…)
|: E |
FAD FAF | GFG EE/F/G | FAD FAD | GED D2 E |
FAD F2 A | GFG E2 g | fed ecA | GED D2 :|
|: B |
Add ded | cAB cAG | Ad/c/d ded | cAB c2 B |
Add ded | cAB cde | fed ecA | GED D2 :|

You could play the penultimate measure of each part with a c#:
~ | fed e^cA | GED D2 :|

Key signature: e minor
Submitted on February 1st 2007 by ceolachan.
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They make a fun set together…

"Pratie" hole? I thought this was a typo for "Prairie"… What’s the story behind this tune?

"Pratie" is Irish-English for potato. Maybe a pratie-hole is a clamp out in the open, or an alcove indoors where potatoes were stored - but I don’t know, not being an expert in rural Irish domestic arrangements back in the long-ago, when Planxty were playing this tune or even before.

Pratie is more than just hiberno-english, It is the irish for potatoes, being ‘prataí’

It follows Coppers and Brass on track 1 of Dick Gaughan’s masterly guitar record. Does anyone know of the story behind it? Sounds like a pipe tune to me. Where is it in O’Neill?
Mike

Ya ever see that game Whack A Mole? It’s like that, but with geese and ‘tater holes.

I have always followed this tune with"The Cook in the Kitchen". That’s how I first heard it. Was in on a Planxty record?

Planxty never recorded The Cook in the Kitchen. They did a set with this tune along with The Hare in the Corn leading into The Frost is All Over leading into this one.

The C’s in the second part certainly should be natural.

As learned from Brian Gallagher Willie Clancy Week 1988
The triplets as in bar 1 and can be added to bar 4 too. These triplets are a good way to introduce the D Cran in the next tune you teach as the cran is about the same when the triplet is played very, very tight and oof the knee!

Adding Chords from our local group’s copy.