The Lansdowne Lass
A Josie McDermott tune transcribed from Seamus Egan’s "Traditional Music From Ireland". Similar to Paddy Taylor’s "Little Katie Taylor" https://thesession.org/tunes/2172 in the A-part. The tune Seamus plays before it in G is called "The Baltimore Salute" on that album, posted last year by Gian Marco: https://thesession.org/tunes/1849. On some other albums it appears as "The Lansdowne Lass". Kenny maintains that the 1st tune in G is actually the Lansdowne Lass and the 2nd tune in D is the Baltimore Salute. I’ve never heard this Dmaj tune called the Baltimore Salute, but that may be because everyone has adopted SE’s names, and the tune in G has become more popular than this one. Whatever their names are, they’re both great tunes, and they go well together. According to one source, this tune was "debuted by Seamus Egan at Kavanaugh’s in Baltimore right after the Lansdowne Festival". The tune in G gets played at our session almost every week, and "Little Katie Taylor" is also quite common, but I’m having a job trying to introduce this one to my session friends.
You can smooth out bar 6 of the B-part if you want by playing |a2ge fedB|A…
Such a wonderful confusion of tunes.
Thanks for posting this one Mr. NTI. A whistle playing friend of mine has worked up the set Seamus plays and hopes I’ll join in on fiddle. I don’t mind playing the set straight off the cd with him, but I’m really looking forward to just getting these tunes under my belt. About got the Jackie Coleman’s one (not *that* Jackie Coleman’s! :o) in one sitting last night. The whiskey helped.
Will - we’ve been working on the same tune! I transcribed that Jackie Coleman’s off the CD for myself so thought I might as well post it in case it comes in handy: https://thesession.org/tunes/574/comments#comment116427
The Irish band Deanta play a different McDermott tune called The Landsdowne Lass:
T:Lansdowne Lass, The
|:B2 ge dBGA | B2 GB AGEG | DGGF GABd | egdB ABGA |
B2 ge dBGA | B2 GB AGEG | DGGF GABd | egdB G2 GA :|
|:BG G2 gG G2 | g2 eg dBGA | B2 BA Bcdg | eaag a2 ga |
b2 ab agef | g2 eg dB G2 | G2 EG DEGe | dBAB G2 GA :|
Nope, radirano, that one’s the Baltimore Salute: https://thesession.org/tunes/2192
The name confusion is part of the ongoing conversation amongst all these tune threads.
LOL radriano did you even bother reading my comments?!
I posted “The Lansdowne Lass” – as named on recordings by both John Wynne and “Deanta” – on Nov.26th 2003. This has been discussed before, and that will be my only comment on the matter
My apologies, I did not read the first post thoroughly. But I still don’t see a resolution to the question. Just because one person insists that something is correct doesn’t make it so. But I don’t wish to stir up old issues so this is my last comment on the subject as well. I agree that both are good tunes.
LOL. Look, I personally couldn’t give a damn what these tunes are supposed to be called. The most important thing to me is that this one is a different tune from the others, and it’s a good tune. It needed to be posted so I posted it. Simple. I’m somewhat amused that you’re both going "this is my last comment" and stomping off in a huff. What’s that all about?! You huffed that I posted the tune, or is it something I said?!
Stomping off in a huff? Well, NTI, that’s your impression. I thought I was apologizing for myself and trying to leave the conversation without making a big fuss. Seems like your LOL should be accompanyed by "and feeling somewhat insecure."
Who me? Insecure? What makes you think I’m insecure? I ain’t done nuffin’. I never pushed her so don’t look at me like that.
It was an accident. Someone help me out here! Don’t go jumping to conclusions.
No seriously, sorry for biting your head off ;-) I agree that "just because one person insists that something is correct doesn’t make it so". Basically it looks like we’ll never know which tune is which, but in the end, it doesn’t matter does it? The important thing is that this is a great tune. I love the way it rises up in that 1st part and then sinks back down again like a wave.
Which tune is that, Mark? *cheshire grin*
This one Will:
T: Who Gives A Scheidt?!
DEFA GEFE|DEFA defa…
(swelling up in a wave-like motion, so to speak)
(falling back down again, rather like a wading bird coming in to land in a peaceful estuary)
D2FA GEFE|DEFA defa|g2ed cAGE|1 FAGE D3A:|2 FAGE D3c||
|:d2 (3fed adfa|bfaf gfed|cA~A2 BG~G2|AGFD EFGE|
defa g2fg|a2ge fdcA|ABce dcAG|1 (3FGA GE D3c:|2 (3FGA GE D3A||
LOL I especially like the wading bird part…
Different version on Altan’s “Horse with a Heart”
There’s a different version of this tune on Altan’s "Horse with a Heart", first set, after "Three Scones of Boxty".
There’s also a third version of it on a Mike & Mary Rafferty album.
I think the name question was straightened out on Irtrad-l some years ago (search the Irtrad-l archives) and that the D tune is actually "The Lansdowne Lass".
I’ve got the Altan version in my collection as reel #296.
Your "Altan version", is a different tune Henrik: https://thesession.org/tunes/2172.
Sorry, my mistake
I’m sorry, I didn’t know about the discussion here on TheSession. Now I’ll rename it in my collection.
But actually, I think the tunes are so similar, that it’s quite possible that Josie McDermott had heard "Little Katie Taylor" before composing "The Lansdowne Lass", though he might not have been aware of it.