Scully Casey’s jig

Just got this. I see there are two other Scully Casey’s in the database. I’ve been told that it has been recorded by the Kane sisters. I’ve also been told that Scully casey was Bobby Casey’s Da

I know this tune as Brian O’Lynn and a different version of the tune was already posted on this site: https://thesession.org/tunes/830 I don’t know which was originally standard, but this version is probably more popular since Kevin Crawford and Martin Hayes recorded it together.

Not sure about the key signature. It comes from Michael O’Raghallaigh’s CD.

I know this tune as Brian O’Lynn.

Tis and always has been Bryan O’ Lynn’s

Key is A dorian

It’s quite a bit different from the Brian O’Lynn that I know

But still duplicated, isn’t it?

Ok, so the second part is virtually identical…..

The 1st part’s quite a bit different though, and the part endings are distinct - I like the way both parts end on D. I think they’re similar sounding and related tunes, a bit like Scotsman Over The Border and the Carraroe. No point in lumping them in as the one tune if the differences are interesting enough.

There are two distinct versions of "Brian O’Lynn" on this site. I think what Dow is talking about is this one: https://thesession.org/tunes/830 Actually, Ritchie’s transcription is almost identical to the other one, which was posted as "Scully Casey’s" by Alancorsini this year: https://thesession.org/tunes/4139

Key signature: Adorian
Submitted on July 24th 2005 by Ritchie.
https://thesession.org/tunes/4771

See also Old John’s https://thesession.org/tunes/57 for a similar A-part.

See also the Rooms of Dooagh: https://thesession.org/tunes/2277 for the virtually identical second part.

I experienced a bit of confusion with this tune. Listening to John and Julia Clifford’s cassette “The Humours of Lisheen” on side 2, track 3, I recognized the second tune of the set, named “The Ducks and the Oats” on the recording, as as the same as one I learned from Yvonne Kane as “The Tenpenny Bit”.

https://thesession.org/tunes/4180

I even added Ducks/Oats as an alternate names for that tune.

The friend who’d lent the cassette pointed out that she’d learned the FIRST tune in the set, named on the recording as “John Mahinney’s No. 2”, as “The Ducks and the Oats” from both Liz and Yvonne Kane. This submission is from my friend’s transcription (she’s a lurker here and prefers to remain anonymous).

Also, there’s a setting of this tune from Denis Murphy in the Breandan Breathnach Ceol Rince na hEireann Book 5, tune number 58, also named “The Ducks and the Oats”.

I think the best conclusion is that the notes on the album are in error.

Denis Murphy had a verse with this tune, beginning:

“The ducks in the oats and no-one to turn them,
Ó, muise, Dia linn, what will we do with ‘em…”

I know this as Brian O’Lynn: https://thesession.org/tunes/4139

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on January 25th 2008 by fidkid.
~ /tunes/8185

X: 3
T: Ducks And The Oats, The
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: G Major
|: B |\
cBc A2 G | EcB cde | dcA A2 B | cde ged |
cBc A2 G | EcB cde |dcA AGE | EDD D2 :|
|: g |\
efg ged | cAB cde | eaa age | ed^c d3 |
efg ged | cAB cde | dcA AGE | EDD D2 :|

Not "The Tenpenny Bit"

I experienced a bit of confusion with this tune. Listening to John and Julia Clifford’s cassette “The Humours of Lisheen” on side 2, track 3, I recognized the second tune of the set, named “The Ducks and the Oats” on the recording, as as the same as one I learned from Yvonne Kane as “The Tenpenny Bit”.

https://thesession.org/tunes/4180

I even added Ducks/Oats as an alternate names for that tune. The friend who’d lent the cassette pointed out that she’d learned the FIRST tune in the set, named on the recording as “John Mahinney’s No. 2”, as “The Ducks and the Oats” from both Liz and Yvonne Kane. This submission is from my friend’s transcription (she’s a lurker here and prefers to remain anonymous). Also, there’s a setting of this tune from Denis Murphy in the Breandan Breathnach Ceol Rince na hEireann Book 5, tune number 58, also named “The Ducks and the Oats”. I think the best conclusion is that the notes on the album are in error. Denis Murphy had a verse with this tune, beginning:

“The ducks in the oats and no-one to turn them,
Ó, muise, Dia linn, what will we do with ‘em…”

# Posted on January 25th 2008 by fidkid

My mistake, there it is right after "John Mahinney’s 2". Guess I should read full titles rather than just file names.

Interestingly, I learned "John Mahinney’s 2" under the name "The Ducks in the Oats"

That was supposed to go on the Ten Penny Bit comments. And I wrote it before reading these comments. I feel completely incompetent now.

Paudie O’Connor and John O’Brien have a nice arrangement on Winds and Reeds CD called Duck in the Oats

Check out Guiry’s Favorite tune #707 in original version of O’Neill’s Muisic of Ireland

Is it just me or does the first part especially of this tune, at least as recorded by Michael Gorman and company, sound a bit like a jiggified ”Rakish Paddy”?

A fine jig from Michael Sheehy’s lovely recording "The Cat’s Rambles." This sounds very old to my ear with an archaic gapped scale I’m tagging as D dorian for want of a better idea. Not really D drian but neither is it C, A minor, etc.

Dmix?

Duplicates:
Brian O’Lynn’s - https://thesession.org/tunes/830#setting26985
Scully Casey’s - https://thesession.org/tunes/4139

(I’ve always known this as "the other" Brian O’Lynn, which Patrick Street once recorded)

With no F in the tune, sharp or otherwise, the distinnction between Dmix and Ddor is a wash. Although the tune ends on a D, I really don’t hear a Dscale going on. I chose D dor largely because it provides a workable key signature. By that standard, Dmix is not worse, except it’s a bit inelegant to give instructions for playing a note that doesn’t actually appear in the tune. I think this is just one of those tunes put together without reference to any strong modal harmonic framework. I need to spend some time with the recording and figure out what the left hand is doing. As with most of the tunes, it’s not your typical accordion vamp at all.

Thanks Jeff! You’re absolutely right. It’s the same tune as Scully Casey’s - https://thesession.org/tunes/4139 . It’s certainly a cousin to Brian O’Lynne’s and very close to the setting you linked to. To my ear they’re different enough to be regrded as separate tunes. But the tune I posted probably belongs with Scully Casey’s as a setting, with "John Mahinney’s" added as an alternate title. I’ll have to dig up the Patrick Street recording.

As recorded by Paudie O’Connor and John O’Brien on their album "Winds & Reeds":

https://open.spotify.com/track/79ti2cGckBT4hqjOD2O4Kf?si=4O6Nu9qbQViZDHJortHbaA

I love this version, with the constant major / minor shifting on the C sharps.