Sounds good either on a feadog or a low whistle. This tune is about a young man who falls madly in love with a girl. Her parents disapprove and to get rid of the suitor they ask him to help make the hayrope (made by twisting strands together). As the rope gets longer and longer he is forced to step outside of the barn door, and when he does the parents slam the door in his face. Dejected, he goes off and writes this tune. I find it best if actually played slower like and air.
This IS the set-dance "An Suisan Ban", and as far as I know, the only thing it has in common with the slow-air "Casadh An Tsugain" is that both are Irish, and both have been recorded by the "Chieftains" . Nice story - wrong tune.
This is "An Suisan Ban",which I believe translates as "The White Blanket"
That’s "An Súisín Bán".
Kenny - I disagree. The air I know as Casadh an tSugain is most definitely the same tune as this, give or take a few notes. Could there be another air by the same name?
"This IS the set-dance "An Suisin Ban""
…although I agree with that bit. There are enough notes given or taken to warrant a different name, and this version is the set dance, not the air.
The site looks really lovely…. only problem is I can’t play the midis… nor download them like I used to…. Is there a delay in the development or is this new format exactly as it will be???? 🙁
The midi issue has been covered at GREAT length in the discussion threads about the new site. I suggest you look there. In brief though, no, it is not something that is likely to change. The issue is browser dependent so, unless the browser changes to accommodate through an update then there is unlikely to be an alternative. It is not something Jeremy is likely to be able to sort.
I assume you are probably using Internet Explorer 8? All I can suggest is you upgrade to something like Google Chrome and, all of a sudden, your problems should be resolved.
Lasairfhíona did a version of Casadh an tSúgáin that goes (roughly) with this tune. Maybe explains the confusion?
Casadh an tSugain
What I’m more familiar with by this name.
The music is from R. Robinson’s tunesite and ornamentation is my memory of Patrick Ball on ‘fiona’.
Timing is different by the Chieftains and the Bothy Band.
So as I was setting out to try and create a mountain dulcimer arrangement of this air, I noticed an issue with the timing. Both the Chieftains (on Water from the Well) and the Bothy Band (live recording on the Best of the Bothy Band) do not hold the long notes at the end of the phrases anywhere near as long as in the second setting above. In fact, they cut them exactly half a measure shorter, and the next phrase jumps right in. So instead of holding the final G at the end of the A part for the five counts listed, they go for three and then jump right into the next pickup notes. This happens twice in the A part and once in the B.
The only way I get it to work is by changing the time signature to 2/4 rather than 4/4 or C, although that ends up creating phrases that are 14 measures long, which seems strange to me. I haven’t taken the time to figure out ABC notation, so I’m not posting a new setting right now. Has anyone else noticed this? Does anyone else have a better solution?
" Does anyone else have a better solution?"
Yes. Not to take notation as a wholly accurate means of recording a tune.
2nd Tune is Correct
Aside from the ornamentation, the notes mrkelahan’s are almost identical to the version I am familiar with.
Re: Casadh An Tsúgáin
The 2nd version above and the one that entranced me 40 years ago is the Bothy Band version which is fairly identical to the Gloaming version sung by Iarla O Lionard in the movie Brooklyn. Both slow.