Miss Gordon Of Liverpool jig

There are 2 recordings of this tune.

Miss Gordon Of Liverpool has been added to 7 tunebooks.

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Three settings

1
X: 1
T: Miss Gordon Of Liverpool
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Fmaj
|:~F3 FAc|dcA F2F|EGG GAF|(4EEEE CDE|
(4FFFF FAA|cde f2c|dfd ege|1 ~f3 fcA:|2 ~f3 efg||
|:afd bge|a2f c2A|dgg g2f|
[1ede cde|afd bge|fcA F2C|D2F FGE|FGF Ffg:|
[2 ede c2 ^c|dBf cAf|cAF ~C3|D2F FGE|FGF FAG||
2
X: 2
T: Miss Gordon Of Liverpool
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Fmaj
|:~F3 FAc|dcA F2F|EGG GAF|~E3 CDE|
~F3 FAA|cde f2c|dfd ege|1 ~f3 fcA:|2 ~f3 efg||
|:afd bge|a2f c2A|dgg g2f|
[1ede cde|afd bge|fcA F2C|D2F FGE|FGF Ffg:|
[2 ede c2 ^c|dBf cAf|cAF ~C3|D2F FGE|FGF FAG||
3
X: 3
T: Miss Gordon Of Liverpool
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Fmaj
|:~F3 FAc|dcA FAF|~E3 GAF|~E3 CDE|
~F3 FAA|cde f2c|dfd ~e3|1 ~f3 fcA:|2 ~f3 efg||
|:~a3 bge|~a3 ~c3|dgg g2f|
[1ede cde|~a3 bge|fcA F2C|~D3 FGE|~F3 Ffg:|
[2 ede ~c3|dBf cAf|cAF ~C3|D2F FGE|FGF ~F3||

Eight comments

Quadruplets?

How odd…

😏 hmmph

So I had a search via the Reverend’s database and Tunepal, and came up with nothing convincing other than this tune itself.

Anyway, as is evident from dafydd’s profile page, he was a prolific submitter of self-composed tunes (at least 32…), and given the unconventional quadruplets, the fact that the first 4 bars remind me of a few popular jigs, and the predictable patterns found elsewhere in the tune, I’m going to predict that this another of dafydd’s “gems”. He didn’t even name or comment on it, which isn’t helpful at all, because it just gets lost in the swamps of other Gan Ainms (though 5 poor lost souls made it this far to add it to their tunebooks!).

Anyway, at a guess, C: dafydd

Re: Quadruplets

So we could rename it to “Dafydd’s Quadruplets”… 😛
FWIW, I’ve sometimes seen quadruplets in jigs used like triplets in reels… as for instance like (4fgaf instead of f/g/af. In this case however this doesn’t make sense at all… the tilde seems to be the best solution here indeed.

DUPLICATE- Jeremy 🙂

Well, actually, this was submitted before the other one over at https://thesession.org/tunes/4919, but the second version already has comments and is also a better setting IMO.

This came from a member here to identify it 🙂

“seems to be Miss Gordon of Liverpool (William Marshall). The listing of it on JC’s says “was 9/8”; interesting!
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tuneget?F=GIF&U=/~jc/music/book/SCD/Leaflet/191-Miss_Gordon_of_Liverpool-TT.abc&X=191&T=MISSGORDONOFLIVERPOOL

The tune is taken as the original for the RSCDS dance Jubilee Jig - http://my.strathspey.org/dd/dancevideo/209/
and we play it along with Castle Hill (Muriel A Johnstone), My wife’s a wanton wee thing & Sgian dubh for that dance“

Maybe Not?

They are certainly pretty similar-sounding. What do others think?

Ok, mea culpa

Ignore the duplicate, they are seemingly separate tunes.

William Marshall clearly knew lots of Miss Gordon’s, and wrote them some jigs that sound alike 🙂

“William Marshall clearly knew lots of Miss Gordons”

It’s because he worked for the Gordons. They were (and still are to some extent) major landholders in North East Scotland, and several “Dukes of Gordon” were known to “put it about a bit”, resulting in wee Gordons scattered about all over the place. I’m not sure how one came to be in Liverpool, however. The “Liverpool Scottish” TA regiment wear the Forbes tartan, and Forbes is another clan with much property in the North East - kind of rivals of the Gordons.
It would need a bit of research.

From Mr Kuntz:

“Moyra Cowie, in her book The Life and Times of William Marshall (1999), finds the Marshall connection with this Liverpool family through Marshall’s brother Henry, who worked at the Custom House. Harry Gordon of the Laggan Gordon branch of the family owned the Tobacco Warehouse in Liverpool, and presumably the title refers to a daughter.”

http://tunearch.org/wiki/Annotation:Miss_Gordon—Liverpool

The trouble is that Cowie is prone to speculation, so I would say it’s a good shout, but might be invention.

Harry Gordon was born in Laggan, Morayshire c 1786, and “worked in a tobacco warehouse in Liverpool”. He apparently had four daughters - all born in Scotland, but some young enough that they would have probably resided in Liverpool when Harry was there. One daughter, interestingly, just goes under the name of “Miss Gordon”, in this record:

http://www.famhist.us/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I6705640&tree=allfam#cite1

Moyra Cowie is probably on the right track.