The Marquis Of Lorne hornpipe

Also known as The Flowers of Antrim in O

For the avoidance of doubt it should be “lively” hornpipe!
trevor

I like this tune. Joe Hutton used to play it exactly as you’ve posted it, Trevor, all except for the final bar, which he had as |gdba g2|

But this tune, going by the name of ‘Sligo Fancy’ has a swing rhythm.

The Sligo Fancy Hornpipe

https://thesession.org/tunes/508

https://thesession.org/tunes/1261

I am quite sure this is not the newry highwayman that solas plays.

Definately not the same as Solas’… Then again the Solas track is a song with not much instrument melody in it?

I keep hearing a Dmaj setting of this with Cnats in the B-part in my local session. That setting seems to go by the name of McDermott’s #2. I was pleased to see it posted here: https://thesession.org/tunes/5131. They’re obviously derivative of each other, but the versions aren’t compatible in a session, even if you transpose.

Since I posted my comment in 2004, I’ve been hearing a Dmaj setting of this with Cnats in the B-part in my local session. They’re obviously settings of the same tune, but are incompatible. I’ve tried to play along using my setting and just flatting the 7th in the B-part, but it hasn’t worked, and I’ve ended up learning the Dmaj one as a separate tune. That setting has been posted onto the database here: https://thesession.org/tunes/5131.

This is also in Bill Brennan’s book/CD from Mel Bay: “Irish, Scottish & Border Melodies for Flatpicking Guitar.” It’s the 2nd tune in a medley, with Proudlock’s Hornpipe. In Brennan’s book it’s called “The Marquis of Lorne.”

John

Are the flowers of Antrim the elder blossoms? An trom = the elder tree.

X:2 from a 78 of John Sheridan and His Boys, which may be heard here: https://app.box.com/s/1pgt3ffzfr5xio1wjzaq In the liner notes to the cassette “Fluters of Old Erin” which reissued this disc Harry Bradshaw states that John was a Cavan man and relation of famous Civil War general Philip Sheridan; a town due west of where I live is named after the General, so I have a fondness for this hornpipe aside from its other musical attractions.

The instruments were banjo, piccolo (Sheridan’s instrument), and box; I hear the box playing more ornately in the 1st bar on one of the repeats where Sheridan drops out for a spell - the box is obviously playing something busier than the rest of the Boys - (3gbg G>B (3gbg G>B perhaps, this would be a snap on the D row. Although this was a tune in G and box players were still using 1 row instruments then, so perhaps it’s a G box and he played the above, but fingering in what we C#/D players would think of as the key of D. Thus on a D box it would come out as above but be fingered (3dfd A>F (3dfd A>F. Hope that makes sense!

So anyways, you may wish to add more to the setting here and there. I always play a double cut roll on wind instruments in the 1st bar of the 2nd part, too, to liven things up a titch. It’s a delightful change from the norm, and an additional Irish version of this tune, to go with Coleman’s McDermott’s hornpipe, which is in D: https://thesession.org/tunes/5131

(3dfd (3Ada (3Bc#B (3Ada, more like, played in the key of D, to come out in G on a G box. Or (3gbg (3dfd (3ege (3dfd, on the D row to come out in G.

Just a couple differences from another version on here from a Mel Bay book