easy but fun
Just a few things. firstly I think that you should seperate your letters a little more. Jigs are in groups of 3 not 6 but it isn’t a big problem for those of us that know that. It just presents the tune a lot better. More importantly, I think the crotchet in bar 13 should be dotted.Some notes in the first part are very low aswell so I presumed they were an octave too low and put them up an octave. try this and see if you think it sounds better. Maybe you can edit your tune with this:
F ||GEE BEE| FEF DFA| GEE BEE| FED E2F |GEE BEE| FEF DFA| Bee Bcd B| AFD E2|:
c | d3 dcB| AFD FGA| Bee ede| fed B2 C | d3 dcB| AFD FGA| Bee BdB| AFD E2|:
If each part is meant to be payed twice, put the colon before the barline ending each part.
In relation to the tune itself, it reminds me a little of "The Banshees Wail over the Mangle Pit". It sounds traditional unlike some of the other stuff thats been posted recently.
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I was surprised this wasn’t already here, but I couldn’t find it. Anyway, ‘fiddlefreak/hockeystick’ ~ good addition, but check your mailbox and get the corrections in if you want a decent set of dots when it gets converted to ‘Sheetmusic’. As it is now it might not even convert… I’ll be back and offer up another take on this later…
7th bar of the A section - too many notes
Bee Bcd B|
Think that should read:
Bee (3Bcd B|
| Bee B/c/dB | ~ in the time signature…
You can notate it how Donough did it too - it’s not incorrect as grumpy old ‘c’ would have you believe :-)
In the 4th bar of the B part it should be c, not C
and to get a nicer sheet music it makes sense to have just 4 bars on one line
fiddlefreak you can check the dots at
so they do not get too freaky ;-)
:-P nyah, nyah, na, nyah, nyah!!!
Who’s the real Mr. Grumpy here. Dow’s got a ~*\/*~ and is needing someone to pick on, me.
Actually, and we aren’t necessarily stuck in the ‘regular’ notation, if you divide any of the six beats in a 6/8 tune, the ‘usual’ thing is to halve them, or: | NNN NNN | could be come:
| N/N/ N/N N/N NNN |
This is just basically about keeping the emphasis, definition and divisions within the structure of 6/8 time… A triplet basically bleeds over that distinction, muddies the rhythm. But there’s no notation police out there yet and I’ve not recieved a badge and uniform ~ like Dow wears…with a baseball hat…
This is also true in general practice, and not just amongst the ‘classically’ influenced…and can be heard when you really slow the m-u—s——i———c w————a——————-y down…
“The Hearty Boys of Ballymote”
This will bring Mr. Grumpy out of the woodwork, something to chew on and make comment over, and maybe he’ll actually give us another take on this tune. Here’s the reformatted contribution as sent to ‘fiddlesticks/hockeypuck’, spaced for hopefully a clearer read of the tune, which makes no difference to any of the ABC readers:
K: E Dorian
|: F |
GEE BEE | FEF DFA | GEE BEE | FED E2 F |
GEE BEE | FEF DFA | Bee B/c/dB | AFD E2 :|
|: c |
d3 dcB | AFD FGA | Bee ede | fed B2 c |
d3 dcB | AFD FGA | Bee BdB | AFD E2 :|
I ‘c’ what you’re saying, but I think that you’re blinded by convention. Anyway, I’d always notate it as you suggest - with semis. That’s because, like you ‘c’, I’m blinded by convention :-)
Note ~ I didn’t tell them everything about your ‘uniform’… Heh, heh, heh, best to leave some things to the imagination, eh? I also didn’t say exactly what you do in that uniform of yours… Since you won’t send me a picture, maybe someone else will catch you in the act and send my a photo for the dart board…
So, not everything you do is conventional… ;-)
Don’t, no, don’t Dow, don’t, resist the urge, hold back, get back to your studies and just let this slide. See if you can resist the temptations of ‘TheSesh’ for a day… Center yourself, breath deeply, think of Okinawa ~
I didn’t realise that my flaunting some convention was going to start off this diatribe - whatever that is!
I know that triplets are not played evenly and I do not disagree with how you choose to notate them, but I would have thought that the more common convention is to notate them as I have done.
Come to think of it - it’s actually quicker and easier to do it the semi-quaver way - I "Heart"ily agree. I have seen the light and am converted!
Isn’t all this effort wasted if "fiddle freak/hockey" doesn’t come back and clean up the mess. That is going to leave Jeremy to have to tidy up the abc before making the sheetmusic happen.
LOL I’m interested in learning how to flaunt convention, Donough. Do you pin semiquaver transcriptions onto your clothes and walk through town showing everybody and doig a twirl and yelling at them "this is how *I* do it - the conventional way!"
If you teach me how to flaunt convention, I’ll teach you how to "doig" a twirl :-)
“Hen Party?” ~ Do You Seek Entertainment?” :-)
I can get you a lad in uniform, extra for a squeeze or a strum, and Dow is his alias and Mark is his name. If you’ve got a party coming up girls, or guys, and you want someone who can shake a jig, he’s the man for you… Let me know and I’ll provide contact details. He’s needing extra dosh to fuel a posh life, so I know he’s willing and eager…
What a kick, thanks for the intervention Donough, your humour is always welcome. I’m glad I’m not the only one who has buttons to push. I knew Dow couldn’t leave well enough alone, the poor lad…all the stress in his life and I’m slaggin’ him off too. Let’s hear it all ~ AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Da duh dun tuh, da duh dun tuh, da duh dun tuh,
duh duh duh duh duuuuuh ~
"TAKE IT OFF, TAKE IT ALL OFF!!!!"
“The Hearty Boys of Ballymote” ~ with Cape Breton influences
K: E Dorian
|: E/F/ |
GEE B,EE | FEF DFA | GEE B,EE | FED E2 F |
GEE B,2 E | F^EF DF/G/A | B/c/dB BAF | dAF E2 :|
|: c |
d3 dcB | AFD D2 A | B2 e e^de | fec d2 B/c/ |
ded d2 B | AFD DFA | Bee Bdd | AFD E2 :|
Alternate takes ~
Part A & B, concluding bars 7 & 8: | B2 e Bcd | AFD E2 :|
Part B, bar 4: | fed B2 c |
“Those Hearty Boys of Ballymote”
K: A Dorian
|: B |
cAA EAA | BAB GBd | cAA E2 A | BAG A2 B |
cAA E2 A | BB/B/B GB/c/d | ea/a/a ege | dBG A2 :|
|: f |
gag gfe | dBG Bdd | e2 a aga | bag e2 d |
g2 g gfe | d2 G Bcd | eaa e/f/ge | dBG A2 :|
Yeah this is all great but without fiddlefreak…. this tune is still going nowhere.
Dow I don’t even want to think about you wearing semiquavers yelling at people, but what the hell is "doig a twirl"?
Yeah, I know… I’ve written the HockeyStick a couple of times, including from the first time this came on to the site, but, alas, no response…
About ‘doig a twirl’, be careful what ye ask…
Could it be that poor old Jeremy has had to go and fix the abc file before creating the sheetmusic - looking good now :)
‘FiddlePuck’ did it herself… ;-)
No, not at all, Our hockey playing fiddler did it all on her own, over a couple of days. Goo on her, she made a valiant effort and it all came together in the end…
‘Goo’ was supposed to have a ‘d’ following it…
shut it donough how wood u no if jeremy had to fix it u stocker
Hey ‘fiddlefreak/hockey’, Donough is one of the good guys, honest…
but a meany
I take back what I suggested about Jeremy having to sort it out - apologies. But we did have to wait a while for you to come back and revisit this page. I don’t know what a stocker is supposed to be, but I would hazard a guess that it ain’t nice.
Anyway what’s in a name if you go changing at will - dig, dig…!
Hey Donough, the mayhem of the triplet continues… I think that ‘patti found me’, previously known as ‘fiddlefreak/hockey’, meant to say "STALKER"…
No, you’re not, never…
The Hearty Boys of Ballymote
This can be found as ‘The Laccarue Boys’ in O’Neill’s Dance Music of Ireland (no.239). I believe it’s a version of an old Scottish tune called ‘Bonnie Dundee’ or ‘Adew Dundee’.
This can be found in the Skene manuscript dating from
c1630-40. Also called ‘Saw Ye My Wee Thing’ and ‘The
Hearty Boys of Ballymote’ in Jerry Holland’s collection.
The Hearty Boys of Ballymote
Listen to Fergus McGorman play the tune on the flute: http://www.itma.ie/digitallibrary/sound/battering-ram-fergus-mcgorman