Ridée Six Temps three-two

Also known as Laridé, Laridé à Six Temps, Ridé, Ridee, Ridée 6 Temps, Ridée à Six Temps, Ridees 6 Temps.

There are 4 recordings of a tune by this name.

Ridée Six Temps has been added to 1 tune set.

Ridée Six Temps has been added to 39 tunebooks.

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Five settings

X: 1
T: Ridée Six Temps
R: three-two
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Bmin
|: BffB f2 (3fef gfed | c2 cd ef e2 cedc :|
|: Bz B2 cdBz B2 cd | Bz B2 cded cedc :|
X: 2
T: Ridée Six Temps
R: three-two
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Bmin
A-part = | 6/4 | 5/4 | 7/4 | 5/4 ||
B-part = | 6/4 | 6/4 | 6/4 | 7/4 ||
X: 3
T: Ridée Six Temps
R: three-two
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Bmin
|: ff Bf fe fg fe dc | Bc de fe dc ed cB :|
fB cd B2 gB cd B2 | AB cd ed cd cB B2 ||
X: 4
T: Ridée Six Temps
R: three-two
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: f | fB f2 ef | gf ed cB | cd ef e2 | ce dc B :||
fB cd B2 | gB cd B2 | AB cd ed | ce dc cB |
fB cd B2 | gB cd B2 | AB cd ed | ce dc B2 ||
X: 5
T: Ridée Six Temps
R: three-two
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Bmin
|: BffB ffef gfed | cBcd efed cedc :|
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dc |
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dB ||
|: BffB f2 ef gfed | cBcd ef e2 cedc :|
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc |
cB fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc ||
Bz B2 cd | Bz B2 cd | Bz B2 cd | ed ce dc :| ~ festourobin
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dc | ~ Jeffrey
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc | ~ Hetty

Ten comments

Should work out fine this time round since I checked it with one of the ABC websites. Apologies for previous gungho attempt. This is really a nice tune. You can double-stop a series of notes below the 3 long Bs on the second line - F#, G, then E. Works out very nicely, but not obligatory, obviously.

Similar to this on Mike McGoldrick “Fused”

f2 f2 ef gf ed cB|cd ef ~e2 ce dc cB:|
|:fB cd ~B2 gB cd ~B2|AB cd ed ce dc cB:|
Nicer setting I think

Similar but different, I believe.

Hmm…

Yep, that one’s nice too, but it sounds like a bit of a flute-and-Irishification to me. Fair enough I suppose, though.

“Laridé à Six Temps” ~ this one with variations:

"The Breton Dance & Tune Book"
Compiled by Dave Shepherd
Dragonfly Music, 1989

NOTE: This is a great little collection, including basic notation for the dances, after all, what’s dance music without the dance? ~ ANSWER: missing something vital, such as understanding, lift and drive…

Pages 35 & 36: #3 with 3 variations

Dave Shepherd notates it on the whole, as some others also do, as 6/4, but the free play of treatment includes bars/measures as 5/4 and 7/4. He also SWINGS the tune, for example, and giving a bit of that swing and rhythmic variation (these variations being easier to notate in 6/4 than in 3/2):

A-part
6/4 ~ | B>f f2 (3fef g>f e>d c2 | = bar 1
7/4 ~ | B>f f>B f2 (3fef g>f e>d c2 | = bar 3

5/4 ~ | c>d e>f e2 c2 c>d | = bar 2

B-part
6/4 ~ | B2 B2 c>d e>d c>e d>c | = bar 2 & 4
7/4 ~ | B2 B2 c>d e>d c>e d>c B2 | = bar4


Mind you, there is a repeating structure to the tune, if you are wanting to put the puzzle together ~

A-part = | 6/4 | 5/4 | 7/4 | 5/4 ||
B-part = | 6/4 | 6/4 | 6/4 | 7/4 ||

Here’s some of Dave Shepherd’s observations:

Tempo:
about 180 bpm, beat = crotchet / quarter note (5-6-7/4)
or 90 bpm, beat = minim / half note (3/2)

"3/2 ~ follows the rhythm of the step exactly ~ others are in odd rhythms which create some nice cross-rhythms against the step and makes this ~ one of the most exciting Breton dances."

CORRECTIONS: For you puzzle lovers, the A-part, the 5/4 bar given above, is, basically, the same measure for bar 2 & 4…

And I slipped elsewhere too, just seeing ~ B-part, the 6/4 is bar 2 only, and the 7/4 is bar 4… So all your missing for this second part is bars 1 & 3, which are 6/4 and identical…and either of the two variations give here will do fine…as will a number of others…

“Ridée” ~ another rescued duplication ~ #7035

Submitted on April 4th 2007 by Jeffery.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7035

X: 1
T: Ridee
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: three-two
K: b minor
|: ff Bf fe fg fe dc | Bc de fe dc ed cB :|
fB cd B2 gB cd B2 | AB cd ed cd dc B2 |
fB cd B2 gB cd B2 | AB cd ed cd cB B2 ||

Ridee from the Fused Album…
This is a rough transcription from McGoldrick’s take on Ridee. I found it to be in three so I assumed it was a waltz. Great tune. I recommend hearing the recording and listening to all of the little changes McGoldrick pulls on his flute. Definitely a keeper for all flute players, whistle, etc.

This tune goes along with Paperbird https://thesession.org/tunes/2510 . Great pair, eh?

# Posted on April 4th 2007 by Jeffery

More information on this tune ~ # Posted on April 4th 2007 by fiddlebzh

This tune is well-known in Brittany, since it’s a traditional. Diarmaid Moynihan composed only the second tune, "Paperbird", that they played toghether, with Calico.

"Ridee" is not really a title : it’s the name of the dance… so it’s not a waltz, it’s a ridée ! The ridée is a collective dance from the south of Brittany, in circle, with quite fast arms moves, and the steps are based on a 6 beats ("6 temps") cycle. Some ridées, like this one, are composed of 12 beats parts : they are usually written in 3/4 (not in 6/8). But some ridées are constructed on a less regular basis, and it doesn’t seem to bother the dancers.
This ridée has no specific title, like most of the instrumental tunes in Brittany. There are dozens of ridées. Only those that are sung with words have a title.
Other examples of ridées played by Irish musicians :
Oisin McAuley, "Far from the Hills of Donegal" album : track 6, "Gilles Le Bigot’s Swing and Tears" ;
Lunasa, "Redwood" album : track 4, "Fest-noz" ;
Celtic Fiddle Festival, "Rendez-vous" album : track 8, the melody "Le coeur de pierre" is followed by 3 or 4 themes of ridée…

# Posted on April 4th 2007 by fiddlebzh

Listen again! ~ # Posted on April 6th 2007 by hetty

This has been bugging me all day so I sat down, (more restful than standing) listened with the intention of transposing it myself and I’m sorry to say but I am sure you’ve both not got it quite right.
There is a lead-in note. very crucial and that is what I think has thrown the rhythm out. From youir abc’s it still did not sound right.
here is mine:

M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: D
|: f | fB f2 ef | gf ed cB | cd ef e2 | ce dc B :||
fB cd B2 | gB cd B2 | AB cd ed | ce dc cB |
fB cd B2 | gB cd B2 | AB cd ed | ce dc B2 ||

McGoldrick plays many variations throughout but this is the basis in the first couple of times through. glad to say that "Speed" was not the confuser but did help me to realise something was amiss so in some ways it bacame the "clarifier". A pity that the notation here cannot be altered - Or can it??

# Posted on April 6th 2007 by hetty

Hmmmmmm?! :-/

Trying to make sense of just the notes given by Jeffrey & Hetty, in comparison to what I am more familiar with, here’s a rehash of their takes on it, Jeffrey’s followed by Hetty’s and given a similar slash and rearrange to fit more with this transcription, which is more what my ears are familiar with:

X: 1134
T: X
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: Laridé à Six Temps
K: b minor
|: BffB ffef gfed | cBcd efed cedc :|
M: 3/4
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dc |
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dB ||

X: 1134
T: X
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: Laridé à Six Temps
K: b minor
|: BffB f2 ef gfed | cBcd ef e2 cedc :|
M: 3/4
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc |
cB fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc ||

Really, the B-part should fall into what happens with some tunes in this vein, where if not the whole thing, the B-part is given as being 3/4, or this way, all three versions:

Bz B2 cd | Bz B2 cd | Bz B2 cd | ed ce dc :| ~ festourobin
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed cd dc | ~ Jeffrey
B2 fB cd | B2 gB cd | B2 AB cd | ed ce dc | ~ Hetty

That should make the relationship clear, that these are the same tune…
Personally, while this isn’t ‘exactly’ as I know it, I prefer festourobin’s, the earlier transcription…