Dawns Forys waltz

Also known as Dawns Forris, Dawns Forris Gymraeg, Dawns Forys Gymraeg, Morris Dance, The Morris Dance, Welsh Dance, Welsh Morris, Welsh Morris Dance, The Welsh Morris Dance, Y Ddawns Forris, Y Ddawns Forris Gymraeg, Y Ddawns Forys, Y Ddawns Forys Gymraeg.

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Two settings

X: 1
T: Dawns Forys
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
dA BG AF|GE FD EC|D/E/F/G/ EF BA|Bc de cA|
ae fd ec|dB c/d/e/d/ cA|d/e/f/g/ af eg|fa ea cA|
af ge fd|ec dB cA|B/c/d/B/ A/B/A/G/ A/G/F/E/|DB A/G/F/E/ D2||
X: 2
T: Dawns Forys
R: waltz
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:dA BG AF|GE FD EC|D/E/F/G/ .A.F DA|Bc de/d/ .c.A:|
|:ae fd ec|dB c/d/e/d/ .c.A|d/e/f/g/ .a.f eg|fa ea .e.c|
af ge fd|ec dB cA|B/c/d/B/ A/B/A/G/ F/G/F/E/|Dd A/G/F/E/ D2:|

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A Welsh Morris in 3/2.

Any information on its origin; modern? ancient? set dance tune? Is ‘Dawns Forys’ a welsh title? If so what is it’s translation? sorry to be a pain but this sight is a treasure trove of information and as there is not much traditional Welsh music around, hopefully you could add to that treasure trove.

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“Y Ddawns Forys”

Actually Hetty, he has given you the translation, sort of, but the Welsh is incomplete:

‘Dawns’ = Dance
‘Forys’ = Morris ~ mutated under the context from ‘Morys’ to ‘Forys’…‘M’ to ‘F’, and the ‘F’ is pronounced as if it were a ‘V’….

But, the actual Welsh would be “Y Ddawns Forys”

Pronunciation approximation:

Th (aspirated as in ‘the’) - ounce (the English word)

The first bit, Welsh for ‘The’, the ‘Y’, can be pronounced as either ‘Uh’ or ‘Uhr’ ~ though usually the latter is shown as ‘Yr’, but not in this context…

Getting it all down ~ here are the accepted Welsh/Cymraeg possibilities:

Dawns Forys
Dawns Forris
Y Ddawns Forys
Y Ddawns Forris

Dawns Forys Gymraeg (Cymraeg / Welsh ~ ‘C’ mutates to ‘G’)
Dawns Forris Gymraeg
Welsh Morris Dance

Y Ddawns Forys Gymraeg
Y Ddawns Forris Gymraeg
The Welsh Morris Dance

Pronunciation approximate for ‘Gymraeg’:

Gum-rye-g ~ using English words and closing with the gutteral ‘g’…

“Dawns Forris Gymraeg” / “Welsh Morris Dance”

This tune and dance, “The Welsh Morris Dance”, is from an old dancing manual from the early half of the 18th Century, 1730’s. The book was missing it’s covers and the title page but appears to be one of the Walsh publications, one of the several editions of “Walsh’s Compleat Country Dancing Master” being a good possibility.

Formation: Longways-for-as-many-as-will ~ Proper Triple Minor
Proper formation, with your back to the stage/music, the men on the left, women on the right, and turn to face your partner, hands six from the top to confirm first grouping…

Steps: Slipping (= step-together) & Skip,1,2,3 ~ but as a ‘country dance’ the walking step would also be a choice. In the Cymdeithas Ddawns Werin Cymru / Welsh Folk Dance Society versions the slip and skip step tends to be the usual…

The slip-step for the following 8 measures:

A 1 - 4 ~ Couple-1 take hands with Woman-2 and circle CW round back to places

A 5 - 8 ~ Cpl-1 repeat the same with Man-2

The skip-step throughout the remainder of the dance:

B 1 - 4 ~ M-1 & W-1 crossover passing Left-shoulders and exchanging sides and facing up ~ dance a Half-Hey starting by passing R’s on that side ~ Turn R-hands once around at the bottom, while 2’s & 3’s continue their Hey passing R’s ~

B 5 - 8 ~ Cpl-1 return into a Half-Hey on that same side passing L’s w/ 2’s ~ & returning to places, all Turn-Single

BB 1 - 8 Cpl-1 dance a Figure-8 beginning down the centre and across and around Cpl-2, Cpl-2 moving up one place, and Cpl-1 finish by turning each other and falling back into Cpl-2’s previous position = the progression one place down…

The Hey ~ 2 x 1/2 ~ a continuous movement ~
1.) ~ 1’s w/ 2’s pass R’s / 3’s turn singly around CW, to their right to face 1’s
2.) ~ 1’s w/ 3’s pass L’s / 2’s turn ACW, to their left to face 3’s
3.) ~ 2’s 2/ 3’s pass R’s / 1’s turn R-hands
4.) ~ 1’s w/ 2’s pass L’s / 3’s turn ACW
5.) ~ 1’s w/ 3’s pass R’s / 2’s turn CW
6.) ~ 2’s w/ 3’s pass L’s / 1’s pass L’s to places…

That’s a rough out, but should give you some idea of the dance that went with this music…

“Y Ddawns Forris Gymraeg” / “The Welsh Morris Dance”

The transcription here didn’t quite read right for me, from the start, but I’d put that on the back burner and in my dyslexic way had forgotten about it until Hetty flagged it up, so this time I thought better than to delay again and forget again I’d chase up a dance and a transcript of the tune for those interested. It is made up of an A part, which in earlier transcriptions was given as 8 measures unrepeated, but can also be notated as 4 measures repeated, and there is an 8 measure B part that is repeated. I’ll give it to you with the repeats so it will be AABB (=4488). This transcript is from a 1938 Welsh publication but is pretty much identical to how it was first given to me for playing for Welsh dancers in rehearsals, performances and for the annual balls around the country:

M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: country dance
K: D Major
|: dA BG AF | GE FD EC | D/E/F/G/ .A.F DA | Bc de/d/ .c.A :|
|: ae fd ec | dB c/d/e/d/ .c.A | d/e/f/g/ .a.f eg | fa ea .e.c |
af ge fd | ec dB cA | B/c/d/B/ A/B/A/G/ F/G/F/E/ | Dd A/G/F/E/ D2 :|

Something has gone wrong here.I submitted it as a 3/2.