The Weavers’ march

Also known as 21st Of August, The 21st Of August, Charles Of Sweden, Come Jolly Bacchus, Dydd Cyntaf O Awst, Fflat Huw Puw, The First Day Of August, Frisky Jenny, The Gallant Weaver, In My Cottage Near A Wood, In My Cottage Near The Wood, New Swedish Dance, The Swedes’ Dance At The New Playhouse, Twenty First Of August, The Twenty First Of August.

There are 5 recordings of a tune by this name.

The Weavers’ has been added to 1 tune set.

The Weavers' has been added to 22 tunebooks.

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Five settings

X: 1
T: The Weavers'
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
F/G/|:A/B/A/G/ FA d/c/d A2|B/c/d cd gf eF/G/|A/B/A/G/ F/G/A B/c/d/B/ A2|
dd cd/e/ f/e/d/c/ B/A/F/G/:|B/c/d cd/e/ f/e/d/c/ B/c/d/e/||
|:fg/f/ ef/e/ d/f/e/c/ d/c/B/A/|B/c/d cd gf e2|A3G/ F/G/A B/c/d A2|
B/c/d c/d/e e2 dd/e/:|B/c/d c/d/e e2 d2||
X: 2
T: The Weavers'
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
ABAG F2 A2 | dc d2 A4 | Bc d2 c2 d2 | g2 f2 e2 FG |
ABAG FG A2 | BcdB A4 |1 d2 d2 c2 de | fedc BA :|
2 Bc d2 c2 de | fedc Bcde ||
|: f2 gf e2 fe | dfec dcBA | Bc d2 c2 d2 | g2 f2 e4 |
A3 G FG A2 | Bc d2 A4 |1 Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d2 de :|
2 Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d2 ||
X: 3
T: The Weavers'
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
ABAG F2 GA | B2 B2 A4 | Bcdc B2 B2 | g2 f2 e4 |
ABAG F2 GA | B2 B2 A4 | BcdB c2 de | E4 d4 ||
|: f2 gf e2 fe | dfed c2 BA | Bcdc B2 B2 g2 f2 e4 |
GBAG F2 GA | B2 B2 A4 | BcdB c2 de | e4 d4 :|
X: 4
T: The Weavers'
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|: A2 AG FG A2 | B2 B2 A4 | Bc d2 cd e2 | g2 f2 e3 z |
A2 AG FG A2 | B2 B2 A4 | Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d3 z :|
f2 gf e2 fe | d2 ed cB A2 | Bc d2 cd e2 | g2 f2 e3 z |
A2 AG FG A2 | B2 B2 A4 | Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d3 z :|
X: 5
T: The Weavers'
R: march
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
(FG) | A2 (AG) F2 (GA) | B2 B2 A3 A | Bc d2 c2 d2 | g2 f2 e3 A |
A2 AG FG A2 | Bc dB A2 A | Bc d2 c2 de | {f}"tr"e4 d2 |]
de | f2 (gf) e2 (fe) | (df) (ed) (dc) (BA) | Bc d2 c2 d2 | {ef}g2 f2 e3 A |
(AB) AG FG A2 | B2 B2 A2 AA | (Bc) d2 c2 de | {f}"tr"e4 d2 |]

Sixteen comments

The Weavers’ March

This is not a reel but is at the tempo of, say, "Roddy McCorley" or "The Dawning Of The Day", if not more laid-back. I got it from a recording of the ace English melodeon player from Norfolk, Tony Hall. The tune derives from that of the Scottish song "The Wark O’ The Weavers", used by Billy Connolly in his song about welly-boots.

Nicholas! I feel that this would be better written as 2/4, keeping the same note values but with twice the number of bars. Alternatively keep the time sig. as 4/4 but change values to crotchets & quavers but again doubling the number of bars. It would read better and then not give the impression that it is a reel. I would also give it a Polka label relating it, in the notes, as being of a more marchy tempo. You can also indicate the first and second time repeats by putting a 1 or 2 at the beginning of bars 4 & 5, e.g. | 1 dd cd etc. and | 2 B/c/d etc. hope that is of some help for future occassions. It’s a nice tune and I enjoy playing it.

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You’re right, Hetty, another balls-up. The Midi sounds like a pygmy shrew on speed, not Tony Hall dreaming…but I’ll have another go at it sometime in 2/4; at least different timings give one a loophole for second-chance entries on this board!

“The Weavers’ March” / “Flatt Huw Puw” / “Come Jolly Bacchus”

"I submitted this as a reel a day or two ago, and am submitting it here as a 2/4 to make (I hope) the sheet music more user-friendly…"
# Posted on November 6th 2006 by nicholas

~ the 2/4 would have been balls up too… Here’s an attempt to make sense of your transcription, keeping it in the ‘usual’ 4/4 for this tune, and without touching your notes, which I also find a bit off. I may return with some other transcriptions, like one of the Welsh versions. It’s a very old tune…:

K: D Major
|: FG |
ABAG F2 A2 | dc d2 A4 | Bc d2 c2 d2 | g2 f2 e2 FG |
ABAG FG A2 | BcdB A4 |1 d2 d2 c2 de | fedc BA :|
2 Bc d2 c2 de | fedc Bcde ||
|: f2 gf e2 fe | dfec dcBA | Bc d2 c2 d2 | g2 f2 e4 |
A3 G FG A2 | Bc d2 A4 |1 Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d2 de :|
2 Bc d2 cd e2 | e4 d2 ||

More roots are showing ~ I’ve sung magrigals and sea shanties, including the Welsh ditty "Flatt Huw Puw"…

Well, Ceolachan, that sorts that one out! You’re really raking through the Welsh stuff at the moment - territory (literal and musical) where I’ve very seldom set foot.

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Hi Nicholas, hope you don’t mind the ‘extensions’, you look rather elvish with those silver strands mixed in there, a bit, but I don’t see any similarity with Orlando Bloom. Can you handle a bow? Heh, heh, heh… ;-)

Hey Nicholas, how about some Northern tunes, give ‘The Whitehaven Volunteers’ a go. It’s a kick to play, or can be, and it makes a good dance set with any of those mentioned in its comments…and it cam work with this one too…

The Weavers’ March, X:4

Setting as played at the Golden Guinea pub session, Bristol (UK).

Re: The Weavers’ March

X:4 tune sounds really like the Robert Burns song "The Gallant Weaver" and he would have collected the tune in
his lifetime - end 18th century. It is a good song to be sung by a woman.

The Weavers’ March, X:5

Taken from the Scots Musical Museum Volume IV. Roberts Burns set his song "The Gallant Weaver" to this
tune aaround 1791:-

Where Cart rins rowin to the sea
By mony a flow’r and spreading tree,
There lives a lad, the lad for me,
He is a gallant Weaver.
Oh I had wooers aught or nine,
They gied me rings and ribbons fine;
And I was fear’d my heart would tine,
And I gied it to the Weaver.

My daddie sign’d my tocher band
To gie the land that has the land
But to my heart I’ll add my hand,
And give it to the Weaver.
While birds rejoice in leafy bowers;
While bees delight in opening flowers;
While corn grows green in simmer showers
I love my gallant Weaver.

tocher = dowry

Re: The Weavers’ March

X:5 Sorry, 2nd line of 2nd verse should read "To gie the lad that has the land" (busy day!).

Re: The Weavers’ March

"The Gallant Weaver" song is considerably older than "The Wark o’ the Weavers" as mentioned by Nicholas 11 years ago, so the attribution/derivation given is perhaps the wrong way round! It had never struck me, until I read this thread, that they are indeed, note-wise, pretty similar, tho "Wark o’the Weavers" and "Wisnae fur yer wellies" are sung to a dotted rhythm which gives them an entirely different feel.

And one other note: at Sidmouth Folkweek Big Band workshop a few years back, John Kirkpatrick gave us a tune with the title "English Courage Displayed". It was, in fact, the same as The Weavers’ March. He did ask if anyone knew it by another name: the penny dropped halfway through the week, and I mentioned the Burns song: not sure if he believed me!

Re: The Weavers’ March

The earliest notation I know of for this tune is from Aird’s Airs (1782). This was only published a few years before the Burns version (1791), but the tune must be older than that (for it to have been adopted as the Marching tune of the Weaver’s).

According to "The Works of Robert Burns, With His Life", Volume II, 1834, (Alan Cunningham), Burns is said to have believed it to have been, originally, a Swedish tune. Possibly this is related to the "Charles of Sweden" alternative title given.