I wrote this tune in honer of my grandfather Richard Robinson.
This tune should be played with a significant lilt
Makes a nice barndance.
Right, sure ~ but, it does have the potential of being quite a nice march… I’ll spend some time with it and come back here with a take on it that way. And while I’m at it, let’s see your ‘barndance’ take on it Nox… Eh? Don’t forget to notate the swing too… :-) (The gauntlet is tossed!)
“Jakob Robinson’s March” ~ the evolutionary process
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on December 2nd 2006 by ceolachan.https://thesession.org/tunes/6449
Maybe it’d make a better "ballroom polka" thingy than barndance - remember we were talking about them a while back, ‘c’?
Part of what makes for a good ‘dance’ tune, whether barndance or polka, is in the phrasing. This tune, with the differences between the first four measures and the last four measures, of both the A & B part, and between those parts, works against that, whatever way you take it. It isn’t designed to help a dancer, so, even if taken as a hornpipe, it is more of a listening piece, or party piece (open to countless variations), than as a dance number… My suspicions are, from this effort, that the composer might have a limited repertoire of hornpipes and that this is a new for them ~ composing tunes… It does have some nice melodic elements…
“Ricky’s Hornpipe” ~ I’m obviously enjoying it…
Yes, while avoiding certain chores… Here’s me working up more agreement within the tune, as just an exaggerated example of what I was talking about, more than usual, as the last two measures of both the A & B parts are the same… Though I have worked in unecessary but fun 1st and 2nd endings, again in agreement with each other. While the ‘agreement’ has been worked in, and the swing notated ‘>’, I’ve also put in variations where the agreement is, such as for measures 1 & 2 and 5 & 6, and bar 7 in the two parts.
K: D Major
|: D>F |
A2 A>B A2 (3FGA | d>cB>A F2 A2 | B>^AB>A G2 B2 | A>B (3AGF E2 D>F |
A>^GA>B A>=GF>A | d2 (3cBA (3FFF A2 | B>dA>d G>eF>d | E>G (3GFE D2 :|
2 e>g (3gfe d2 ||
|: (3Bcd |
e>^de>f (3efe (3cde | f>^ef>g (3fgf (3def | g>be>g f>ad>f | g2 (3fed e2 (3Bcd |
e2 e>f e>cd>e | f2 fg f3 d |1 B2 A>d G2 F>d | e>g (3gfe d2 :|
2 (3Bcd A>d G>e (3FED | E>G (3GFE D2 ||
I like the melody, the gist of it. I just hope poor ol’ litestickpilot doesn’t blow up from all this gas over thier tune ~ :-/
Oops! ~ A-part, bar 8, I forgot the ‘1’ for the first ending, and so, some minor variations:
~ |1 E2 (3GFE D2 :| ~ or ~ |1 E>GF>E D2 :|
Horpipe vs. March vs. Polka
I’m not sure you guys are getting the rhythm on this. I probably should have written it dotted, but sufficed to say, it seems like you aren’t syncopateing it nearly enough.
Do you really mean "syncopating"?
Hound-dog ~ he’s given an example of what he’s trying to say in the ‘comments’ for the march version linked to above ~ "Richard Robinson’s March"…
Here is that transcription, his and unchanged, and his note on it ~ though I can’t really make complete sense of it:
Jakob: "Here’s the first line closer to the rythem I intended:
T: Ricky’s Hornpipe
|: D3F |
A4 A3B A4 F3A2 | d3c B3A F4A4 | B4B4 G4B4 | A3B A2 G2 F6 A2 | ~ " (?)
# Posted on December 3rd 2006 by litestikpilot
Here is my attempt to make sense of that, but the last measure doesn’t add up, too many beats:
|: D>F |
A2 A>B A2 F>A | d>cB>A F2 A2 | B2 B2 G2 B2 | A>B A2 G2 F3 A | ~ (???)
“John Brady’s Hornpipe” ~ an example of ‘agreement’ & variation
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on December 3rd 2006 by ceolachan.
This is for you Jakob, just to give you another example for comparison. I had a note from another member on site that possibly it was a ‘strathspey’ you were thinking of with this… If so, learn a good slew of strathspeys before your next attempt ~ and dance to them, even if it is just in the privacy of your own room…
I am now a bit worried, Nox having been responsible for drawing my attention to this, your ‘composition’ effort, that I may have given you the wrong idea, that composition after composition is a good thing on site here ~ it isn’t. It also isn’t a good way to gain support and friends. Don’t quash the inspiration, but maybe just keep your own notebook of note sequence after note sequence that pops into your head.
My melodic brain is so manic that it never stops, and if I answered that with putting everything that came into my head here ~ I’d be black balled, banned, lose friends, tar and feathered… :-/
Not that I haven’t been close on to that anyway…