Behind The Ditch In Pairc Anna hornpipe

Learned from Harry Bradley’s flute playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgddZS-EI_c

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Charlie Piggott and Gerry Harrington recorded a different version in a different key on their duet album "The New Road". I’ll try to transcribe their version too in a few days.

Some of you might think it’s a bit similar to well-known Clare tune, "The Humours of Tullycrine": https://thesession.org/tunes/980

Don’t you immediately think ‘King of the Fairies’ ? There’s more than a passing similarity there.

No. I don’t see much similarity between the two tunes.

Seriously? Transpose either of them into the other’s key then and give it another go ;-)

Does anyone know what the title means and/or refers to? I´d be thankful for any information. I also would like to know who wrote it or if it is a "traditional" tune.

slainte, thank you a lot for your transcribtion.
however i don’t see lot similarites between this tune and
humours of tullycrine, except tune key.
from my point of view harry play this tune more as march.i
i posses beautyfull version of tullycrine from deidre havlin gig , where she play it first as air, than more or less as hornpipe and at the end as reel.
marin

This is a traditional tune, I believe. And Páirc Anna, or Annfield, seems to be a placename. It’s true it somewhat sounds like a march, but Charlie Piggott and Gerry Harrington recorded it as a hornpipe. It seems Johnny O’Leary also recorded it as a hornpiple: http://www.irishtune.info/tune/655 Some hornpipes developed from song airs or set dances, so maybe this one too.

Hiro, I have to side with ‘kilfarboy’… You know both tunes, give them a go together and I suspect you’ll hear the similarities… This is an interesting one. I look forward to your other transcriptions of it as we don’t have any of these recordings. I can see how it might be worked into a march…

Damn! ~ I just took it that way, it’s great as a march… :-)

Hmm there are very slight similarities in the melodies but a lot of difference in phrasing. I much prefer this tune to King of the Fairies.

I still don’t see any similarity between this one and the King of the Fairy, which I loathe. They are both in 4/4 though.

Harry Bradley plays it in the video first as a (pipe) march then as a hornpipe, i personally prefer the first.

He just plays it slowly first!

K: Gmix
F|DGGA B2c2|dedc A2c2|.d2G2 AGFD|GcAG FDC2|
DGGA B2c2|dedc A2c2|.d2G2 AGFA|G2G^F G3:|
f|d2g^f d2c2|dgg^f d2c2|dggG AGFD|GcAG FDC2|
DGGA B2c2|dedc A2c2|.d2G2 AGFA|G2G^F G3:|

I’m not very good at transcribing tunes in awkward keys, but this is close to what they recorded.

A lot of the so called Orange marches (the tunes not the rallies) are actually Hornpipes whith slightly modified phrasing and rhythms. This one sounds like it might belong, if it doesn’t already, in that repertoire. It’s akin to the Red-haired Boy, etc…

I learned this as McDermott’s played with the Home Ruler on Laurence Nugent’s Two For Two.

I play it a little less soulfully than Nugent, and people often start in on the Humours of Tullycrine.

It is also recorded as Flynn’s (Behind the Ditch in Páirc Anna) hornpipe on Martin Mulvihill, Traditional Irish Fiddling from County Limerick.

I never knew this tune was here. The source is Ella Mae Dwyer of Co. Cork. Now just listen to her playing it (it was on CWATR - maybe a clip from Bring Down the Lamp). That’s how the tune should played and nobody try and tell me otherwise. It’s an effing beut of a clip if you can get access to it!

Great tune but it eluded me on the yellow board because I thought the name was "Behind the Bush in Parkhanna", which is what Nicholas Carolan introduced it as on the show.

The original link to Harry Bradley’s playing has gone, but there is a new one here, first tune.

Sorry forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDfNm4Tt2U

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It’s not a hornpipe.

X: 2
T: Behind The Ditch In Pairc Anna
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: highland fling
K: Amix
|: E>AA>B c2 d2 | e>ge>d B2 d2 |
[1 .e2 A2 B>AG>B | A>GE>F G>E D2 :|
[2 .e2 A>c B>AG>E | A2 A>B A2- A>g ||
e>aa>g e2 d2 | e>aa>g e>g d2 |
[1 .e2 A2 B>AG>B | A>GE>F G>E D2 :|
[2 .e2 A>c B>AG>E | A2 A>B A4 |]

It wouldn’t be the first one mangled and shoved into another form - though usually it’s as a reel, single and/or double…

|: e>aa>g e2 d2 | e>aa>g e>g d2 |
[1 .e2 A2 B>AG>B | A>GE>F G>E D2 :|
[2 .e2 A>c B>AG>E | A2 A>B A4 |]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPDM-2seKpA

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Uploaded on 8 May 2011 ~ by GravelWalks

Mrs. Ella Mae O’Dwyer, née Quill, from Athea in West Limerick (later of Ardgroom Co. Cork), playing a fling, followed by two reels, Toss the Feathers and Drowsy Maggie. Recorded in Cork in November 1982.

I’ve raised this transcription up a step to D, from Ella’s C concertina’s G Dorian to A Dorian.

Charlie Piggott (Melodeon) - Cobblestone 02-10-2012
http://source.pipers.ie/Media.aspx?mediaId=24173&categoryId=900

That was great, Love that older concertina style.
Nice and steady, if you can hear that and resist dancing your a better man than I.

is from the Martin Mulvihill recording Traditional Irish Fiddling from County Limerick https://thesession.org/recordings/2175 where it’s listed as Flynn’s and which links to a totally different tune, a reel.

I’ve been playing this with Some Say the Devil’s Dead, a tune I’ve heard almost as long as I’ve been breathing.

As 5stringfool says above, Martin Mulvihill recorded this tune as "Flynn’s", named after his mother Bridget Flynn, from whom he learned the tune, and who also played the fiddle..