Kiss The Maid Behind The Barrel reel

Curiously enough, Frankie Gavin’s Frankie Goes to Town has a track he calls, "The Maid Behind the Barrel" . It is in Em, of course tuned up to Fm as is Frankie’s preference.
The liner notes even say it it sometimes called "Kiss The Maid Behind the Barrel".
It is quite different from this tune, a great new version of which is on Danu’s "All Things Considered"
Anybody else rune into this?

I learnt this tune in a pipe lesson (intermediate level) at the Willy weel in Milltown Malbay.
The tune was used to show us to have lot of g roll practice…
It was about this version and under this name. I think it is a Seamus Ennis tune.

Also check out The Mountain Road, a collection of South Sligo musicians. This tune is the first tune on that album.

check out Noel Hill’s version on his solo album " The Irish Concertina".

Don’t do think this tune is a version of Steampacket? Or maybe this one came first.

Sorry, I just want to say "Don’t you think…?" Also compare this one with Trim the Velvet.

Here’s the ABCs for a piper’s version that would have all the rolls urs is talking about. It might be Paddy Keenan’s version, it’s from a tape someone gave me of stuff that was on the radio years ago and it sounds like him playing. Also, it can’t be Seamus Ennis’ tune, as urs suggests, because it shows up in O’Neill’s — which was published at the turn of the 20th Century. Seamus Ennis was born in 1919.

X:1
T:Kiss The Maid Behind The Barrel
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:reel
K:Gmaj
DG~G2 AG ~G2 | DG~G2 cAFA | DG~G2 AG~G2 | defd cAFA |!
DG~G2 AG ~G2 | DG~G2 cAFA | DG~G2 ~A3B | defd cAFA |!
dg~g2 ag~g2 | dg~g2 agfe | df~f2 af~f2 | defd cAFA |!
dg~g2| ag~g2 | ~a2ag ~f3g | afge fde^c | d2eg fdcA ||!
G2dG BGdG | ~G2Bd cAFA | ~G3A ~B3c | defd cAFA |!
G2BG dGBG | ~G2Bd cAFA | ~B3G ~A3B | defd cAFA ||!
|: ~B3G ~A3G | BABc dedc | ~B3G ~A3B | defd cAFA :||!

I heard Maeve Donnelly And Peadar O’Loughlin on Clare fm discussing their "older" settings for tunes on their recording, "The Thing Itself." Here’s the abcs for Kiss the Maid Behind the Barrel based on that recording. I find it very enjoyable to play on flute.

X:1
T:Kiss The Maid Behind The Barrel
S:Maeve Donnelly And Peadar O’Loughlin: The Thing Itself
Z:Jack Gilder
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:reel
K:Gmaj
DG~G2 AGGF | DG~G2 cAFA | DGGB AGFA |1 defd cAGF :|2 defd cAFA ||!
dg~g2 aggf | dg~g2 agfe | df~f2 af~f2 | defd cAFA |!
dg~g2 agfg | abag ~f3g | afge fde^c | d^cde fd=cA ||!
G2dG BGdG | ~G2dG cAFA | G2dG BABc | defd cAFA |!
G2dG BGdG | ~G2dG cAFA | ~B3G ABcA | defd cAFA ||!
~B3G ~A2GA | ~B3c dedc | BG~G2 AGFA |1 defd cAFA :|2 defd cAGF||!

There’s nothing to beat Mick Mulvey’s flute version on "Within a Mile of Jamestown"

…IMHO!

The Dogs among the Bushes: https://thesession.org/tunes/595

Parts 1 and 2 are the same as the tune "Steampacket" (also know as Sporting Paddy). The other two parts I’ve never heard before. I’ll listen to Noel Hill’s version again and see if it matches this one.

The Steampacket also known as Sporting Paddy? I’m puzzled.

By the way, I’ve been playing the Steampacket as an easy substitute, but I really have to learn this in a couple of weeks. (Actually the first two parts are not exactly the same as the Steampacket.) I heard it played 2 or 3 times while I was travelling around in GB & NI quite recently. Definitely one of classic flute tunes often associated with John McKenna. Cathal McConnell recorded on his first album, Paul McGrattan did with Paul O’Shaughnessy, and Peadar O’Loughlin recently did with Maeve Donnelly. Thanks Jack for their transcription.

*the* transcription of their version.

You can listen to Josie McDermott play this reel on this page: http://www.lafferty.ca/music/irish/flute-geezers

The Milliner’s Daughter: https://thesession.org/tunes/1409

Is this related to Trim the Velvet?

X:1
T:Kiss The Maid Behind The Barrel
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:reel
K:Gmaj
|:DG~G2 AG GF | DG~G2 cAFA | DG~G2 AGFA | defd cAFA :|
|dg~g2 aggf | dg~g2 agfe | df~f2 af~f2 | defd cAFA |
|dg~g2| agfg | abag ~f3g | af (3gfe fde^c | dfeg fdcA ||
|G2dG AGdG | ~G2dB cAFA | ~G3A ~B3c | defd cAFA |
|G2dG AGdG | ~G2dB cAFA | ~B3G ~A3B | defd cAFA ||
|: ~B3G ~A3G | ~B3c dedc | ~B3G AGFA | defd cAFA :|
"variation"
|| BDGB ADFA | BDGB dedc | BDGB AGFA | defd cAFA |
| BBGA AGBB | GAAB dedc | BBBG AGFA | defd cAFA ||

X:1
T:Kiss the Maid Behind the Barrel
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:reel
K:Gmaj
||D~G3 AGGE | D~G3 cAGE |
D~G3 A2 (3ABc | defd cAFA |
D~G3 AGGE | D~G3 cAFA |
B4c2 (3 ABc | defd cAFA ||
||dgfg agfe | dgfg agfe |
d~f3 a~f3 | defd cAFA
|d~g3 b~g3 | abag fefg |
afge fdec | d2 eg fdcA||
||G2dG BGdG | G2dG cAFA |
G2dG BABc | defd cAFA |
G2dG BGdG | G2dG cAFA |
G2dG BABc | defd cAFA ||
||g2 bg agab | g2bg defd |
g2 bg agbg | defd cAFA |
g2 bg agab | g2bg defg |
abag f3e | d2ed cAFA ||
||(3 Bcd BG (3 ABc AF | G4 cAGA |
(3 Bcd BG A2 (3 ABc | defd cAFA |
~B3d A4 | G2B2 cAGA |
~B3d A2 (3 ABc | defd cAFA ||
||G2AA G2 (3 DEF | GABG cAFA |
G2AA G2 (3 ABc | defd cAFA |
G2AA G2 (3 DEF | GABG cAFA |
(3 EFG AB c2 (3ABc | defd cAFA||

Got this setting from Kerry box player Paudie O’Connor’s collaboration with piper John O’Brien (Mick’s younger brother) entitled "Wind & Reeds". Paudie says in the notes that he got this from fiddler Denis Murphy, hence the prefix I attached to the title:

X:1
T:Denis Murphy’s Kiss the Maid Behind the Barrel
S:Paudie O’Connor & John O’Brien- "Wind & Reeds"
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:reel
K:Gmaj
DG ~G2 AG ~G2 | DG ~G2 cAGF | DG ~G2 AG (A/B/c) | defd cAGF |
DG ~G2 AG ~G2 | DG ~G2 cAFD | B4 c2 (A/B/c) | defd cAFA ||
dgfg agfg | dgfg agfe | df ~f2 affe | defd cAFA |
dg ~g2 bgfg | abag ({e}f3) g | afge fgeg | d2 eg fdcA ||:
~G2 dG EGdG | ~G2 dG cAFD | ~G2 dG DG (A/B/c) | defd cAFA :|
g2 bg agab | gabg defa | g2 bg agbg | defd cAFA |
g2 bg agab | gabg defg | abag ({e}f3) e | d2 ed cAFA ||
(B/c/d) BG (A/B/c) AF | (G2 ~G2) cAFA | BdBG A2 (A/B/c) | defd cAFA |
BdBG AF ~F2 | GBdB cAFA | (B2 ~B2) cA ~A2 | defd cAFA ||
GdAG G3 D | G2 Bd cAFA | GdAG G2 (A/B/c) | defd cAFA |
GdAG GD .D/.D/.D | GABd cAFD | (E/F/G) AB c2 (A/B/c) | defd cAGF ||

I thought it was different enough from enirehtac’s posting to include it here. Also, a helpful (hopefully) hint for our friend enirehtac (and anybody else posting ABC’s here): PLEASE write the ABC’s out four (4) measures per line. It prints out much nicer that way (& it’s a lot easier to read!). Thanks!

-Jay

Second tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxtZLAtOA_M

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is from Cathal McConnell’s flute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4frX45kVAE

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Fair Haired Kate, set (just for fun) in G dorian — reel #68 in her 2004 tunebook A Drop in the Ocean.

Just posted today…..

https://youtu.be/40vCzru15Ys

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Mary Bergin, whistle, Paul de Grae, guitar………………..

https://youtu.be/VvXAsPFnkqo

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Seamus Tansey and Eimear McGeown.

https://youtu.be/aYnW_7vWkA4

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Strong similarity with Eileen O’Callaghan’s (Grogan’s) as well:

https://thesession.org/tunes/1219

You won’t hear better : https://youtu.be/wTOozuiM0Cs

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Regarding the above clip, I attended the Willie Clancy week that year and remember a mighty session in a pub on the same side of the main street as the Central (but in another pub, Clancy’s? Hillary’s?). Who played? Harry Bradley, Zoe Conway, Colm Gannon and a guitarist (not sure who that was, I saw Jens Komnick here and there throughout the week, though).

You’re on the right side of the street, Jeff, and it was Harry, but I think I would have recognised Zoe Conway and maybe even Colm Gannon, and I don’t think it was them. I wonder if we’re talking about 2 sessions in the same pub but on different days, or maybe even a later incarnation of the same session. I have to admit, you could be right, but I’d be surprised, and it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong, of course. One musician who did join them later in the afternoon [ it was an afternoon session when I was there ] was flute player Anthony Quigney, from North Clare I think, and a member of the Kilfenora Ceili Band. RonP and myself ended up in a session with him later in the week - he thought we might be brothers ! - which of course we are, but in a musical and non-biological sense ! Does that ring any bells ?

The quartet (I think they were only four) sat in a semi-circle in a room to the left of the entrance, more or less facing us as we entered. Harry at the very right, then Colm, then Zoe, then the guitarist. At some point Colm started Conor Tully’s ( https://thesession.org/tunes/5337 ) and Harry played President Garfield ( https://thesession.org/tunes/419 ) in D - otherwise a fiddle friendly key, but not for this tune.

We stayed and listened for maybe half an hour, then found a session we could join (probably Queally’s or one of the two Cleary’s).

I don’t think I would have recognized Anthony Quigney. Maybe he was there, maybe he wasn’t, maybe they were different sessions.

Don’t recognise any of that Jeff, I had Harry on the left, fiddler in the middle, box player on the right, and don’t recall any guitar player at the beginning. I think we are talking about different sessions, or maybe you were in later than I was.

Just posted : https://youtu.be/3K2inXnRi8Y

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My take

Mick Gavin on flute from the "Flags Of Dublin" LP :
https://youtu.be/Y77TLMJV-bM

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also Noel Hill :
https://youtu.be/JokN7REdMKg

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Listen to Denis Murphy play a longer version of the tune: https://soundcloud.com/pj-teahan-884614828/denis-murphy-various-audio-donations-1

I believe this is basically the same as what Jaychoons transcribed from Paudie O’Connor & John O’Brien’s playing of the tune: https://thesession.org/tunes/676#setting13727

A similar 6-part version of the tune was recorded by Francis and Áine O’Connor quite recently, citing Pádraig O‘Keeffe’s manuscript as the source.
https://aineandfrancisoconnor.bandcamp.com/track/kiss-the-maid-behind-the-barrel-the-ravelled-hank-of-yarn

Gerry Harrington also recorded a similar 6-part version of the tune on The New Road informing us that he learnt it from the playing of Paddy Cronin.

If only I could have enough time to learn the longer version of the tune from Sliabh Luachra some day…