Dusty Miller three-two

I picked this hornpipe up from local sessions where it is played in a set :
Rusty Gulley
https://thesession.org/tunes/1208
Dusty Miller
and Our Cat has Kitted.
https://thesession.org/tunes/7434

The tune comes from “John of the Greeny Cheshire Way” tune collection (1700s……)
which is stuffed full of 3/2 hornpipes (you have been warned)

The melody is akin to the slip jig posted here at
https://thesession.org/tunes/28

Chris

Nice clean transcription!

Ah, you must be a good person - I see you play EC 🙂

John of the Greeny Cheshire Way will soon be back in print after years of unavailability

Two Chrises, a 3/2, a Dowist monk & good news, so no worry about vampires or demons here… 😎

Thanks for the nice words, Dow - I can’t take all the credit for the transcription though - I just tweaked the nearest version found online to fit what I’d learned (they were all close).
Still, us EC players are all nice people, aren’t we 🙂

Let me know when you think the board can take any more 3/2s!

Chris

this was often played at the english session in greenwich and i’ve always liked it.

if my memory is right we also used to play it as a set with the other tunes mentioned above in Chris’ first comment.

mind you,that’s no surprise as John Offord was and remains a regular at that session.

Surely the tune is the ‘slip jig’ 9/8 sig: The Dusty Miller‘ from O’Neills 1001 Gems Dance Music of Ireland. just played with a different time sig?

The 3/2, in general, predates the 9/8… This tune, and in its 3/2 form, predates O’Neill by a couple of centuries…

1700s anyway…dance & tune…

Whether John of the Green way knew this before O’Neill I don’t know, but This transcription doesn’t convey the bounce and joy of the tune as i know it.

3/2 Hornpipes really bounce along, but the dots probably don’t convey too well where the emphasis goes (and it can shift around!). It’s probably something you need to hear. (Its probably easier to find a good mp3 of Rusty Gulley to get an idea of how to swing these)

Anyway - each version has it’s own merits.
Chris

Ok - here’s a cracking 3/2 (rusty gulley) on pipes - it’s the last tune on the page.
http://www.asaplive.com/FARNE/Learn.cfm?ccs=188&cs=417

well i’m not sure any transcription can ever ‘convey the bounce and joy of the tune’ no matter how it’s written down.

you might as well berate a screenplay for not being the film,imo.

fwiw i think Chris’ transcription is pretty close to what i remember playing.

it’s up to us to put the joyous bounce into it.

still,if you know how to translate bouncy joy into abc i for one would n’t mind a butcher’s!

The second transcription given here is from a limited printing of a local collection, “Furness Tradition Tunebook”, compiled and edited by Mike Kermode, January 2001…

This is a little closer to how I’ve been given this and played it. I’ll add another take on it later. For now, this is another one offered up in answer to an interest in local tunes from local collections here in the Northwest… 😀

The Complete Collection of Irish Music
As noted by George Petrie (1789-1866)
Edited from the original manuscripts by Charles Villiers Stanford
Boosey & Co., 1902

http://imslp.org/wiki/The_Complete_Collection_of_Irish_Music_(Petrie,_George)

https://urresearch.rochester.edu/institutionalPublicationPublicView.action?institutionalItemVersionId=5769

There is also a Dover reprint of this…

- Tunes Published before 1730 - page 14

For your convenience, as well as for those who read D-wind transcriptions more easily, D-fingering, and have a C instrument to play it in F… 😉