The Teelin Petronella barndance

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The Teelin Petronella has been added to 18 tunebooks.

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Three settings

X: 1
T: The Teelin Petronella
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
G,A, |:B,2 D2 A,2 D2 | G,2 A,B, G,2 B,D | G/A/G FG A2 GA | B2 G2 D2 C2 |
B,2 D2 A,2 D2 | G,2 A,B, G,2 B,D | G/A/G FG A2 GA |[1 B2 G2 GEDC :|[2 B2 G2 GD ||
|: B,C |D2 B2 D2 B2 | D2 B2 BAGF | E2 c2 E2 FG | AGFE DCB,C |
D2 B2 D2 B2 | D2 B2 BAGF | E2 c2 E2 FG | AGFA G2 :|
X: 2
T: The Teelin Petronella
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
Ac |:|: B2 d2 A2 d2 | G2 AB G2 Bd | g/a/g fg a2 ga | b2 g2 d2 c2 |
B2 d2 A2 d2 | G2 AB G2 Bd | g/a/g fg a2 ga |[1 b2 g2 gedc :|[2 b2 g2 g2 ||
|: Bc |d2 b2 d2 b2 | d2 b2 bagf | e2 c'2 e2 fg | agfe dcBc |
d2 b2 d2 b2 | d2 b2 bagf | e2 c'2 e2 fg | agfa g2 :|
X: 3
T: The Teelin Petronella
R: barndance
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
D>E |:F2 A2 E2 A2 | D2 E>F D2 F>A | (3ded c>d e2 d>e | f2 d2 A2 G2 |
F2 A2 E2 A2 | D2 E>F D2 F>A | (3ded c>d e2 d>e |[1 f2 d2 d>BA>G :|[2 f2 d2 d>A ||
|: F>G |A2 f2 A2 f2 | A2 f2 f>ed>c | B2 g2 B2 c>d | e>dc>B A>GF>G |
A2 f2 A2 f2 | A2 f2 f>ed>c | B2 g2 B2 c>d | e>dc>e d2 :|

Eleven comments

“The Teelin Petronella” ~ Con Cassidy & Dermot McLaughlin

This is marvelous, and I love this Donegal take on an old Scottish tune, Petronella. ‘Country Dances’ like Petronella were danced and played for all over Eire, but survived in memory and practice, with some exceptions, longer in the North, undoubtedly in part due to the strong Scottish influence, the constant movement of people to and from Scotland. This transcription is based on the duet playing of Con Cassidy & Dermot McLaughlin, which is there to be enjoyed as track 33 of the recently released CD "Con Cassidy: Traditional Fiddle Music from Donegal", highly recommended…as is this tune and the old fashioned joy of playing it octaves…

Here are the notes for this one track, to tempt you to lay your money down and purchase this wonderful result of hard work and respect for the musician and the fiddle traditions of Donegal ~ order it now!!!

33. Lancer (No!, not a ‘Lancer’, there are some few minor problems with the notes) Petronella duet with Dermot McLaughlin

The Petronella was danced by couples and although it seems to be obsolte now in Donegal, it still survives in the contra dance repertory in the USA (& Scotland & beyond!) and is likely to be of Scottish origin (!). Structurally speaking the tune appears to be similar to a simple single reel (NO!) and in this respect is similar to polkas (closer) and other 2/4 tunes used in the Lancers (fair, but it is not a Lancers tune). Con said that he remembered playing it at the house dances long ago and that it was a very suitable tune for octave playing.

“Petronella” the dance ~

You’ll also find dance descriptions, etc., in the ‘Comments’ for tune #1083, "Petronella"…

“The Teelin Petronella”

As Ceolachan has suggested to me, this would play wonderfully for dancers as a fiddle/cello duet, the cello playing a full octave below the fiddle, which a viola can’t do in this tune, and I doubt an octave fiddle would have the right sort of power for dancing. I must try it.
(Lazyhound is wearing his cellist’s hat on this occasion.)

Swing or straight?

I was wondering how this was played on the cited recording and how folks like playing the rhythm. Sounds nice with a swing to me…

Peter

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Good tune ‘c’ but I’m going to transpose it to ‘D’ for my own playing and to make it more recorder/ahistle friendly but must admit that ‘G’ does give oportunity for some nice deep, low-note playing, contrasting with the higher pitch. Better that way with strings I presume therefore.

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Swing? ~ YES!!! ~ 8-)

muspc, you will know by now my love for swing…

Yes, it goes nicely with swing, as do the relatives.

Also ‘yes!’, and I should have transcribed it that way, as I usually do, since to my swing sensitive and inclinded senses they are tending to swing it, and here it is in D following hetty’s lean, and as may suit others, with the swing notated this time ~

X: 1
T: The Teelin Petronella
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: barndance
K: D Major
D>E |:
F2 A2 E2 A2 | D2 E>F D2 F>A | d/e/d c>d e2 d>e | f2 d2 A2 G2 |
F2 A2 E2 A2 | D2 E>F D2 F>A | d/e/d c>d e2 d>e |1 f2 d2 d>BA>G :|2 f2 d2 d>AF>G ||
A2 f2 A2 f2 | A2 f2 f>ed>c | B2 g2 B2 c>d | e>dc>B A>GF>G |
A2 f2 A2 f2 | A2 f2 f>ed>c | B2 g2 B2 c>d |1 e>dc>e d2 F>G :|2 e>dc>e d2 ||

But, it could be played either way, with or without swing, as happens with the usual tune for ‘Petronella’…

Teal in Petrol, Fella

Ceol-
In your quote from the liner notes:

… Structurally speaking the tune appears to be similar to a simple single reel (NO!) and in this respect is similar to polkas (closer) and other 2/4 tunes…

I’m guessing by single reel they’re referring not to a standard reel played ABAB, but to tunes like Ger the Rigger (https://thesession.org/tunes/1367)

And check out the discussion here
https://thesession.org/discussions/9632/comments
for some more info (and disinfo).

My feeling is that a single reel of this type is a hornpipey polka sort of thing, which this Teelin Petronella could convincingly be said to be. Or a barndance or whatever. ;-)
Whew!

Whew! is right Patrick, and I’m having a lauging fit. Thanks, now I think I’ll go down some cider… :-D

Poor deluded bobbi, but he’s gone away happy, what else could you ask, eh? I had a laugh there too, the ping-pong of it all, and they were having a hell of a time figuring out they were playing two different games simultaneously…

As I’ve said before along this line, such tunes are, or were, sometimes notated as 2/4 ~

M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: D Major
D/E/ |:
FA EA | DE/F/ DF/A/ | ~

But it really doesn’t do justice in some instances, like here, and my choice is as given, to do the transcription as 4/4, which personally I think fits the character of the tune better, and allows me to notate some ways with it more easily, including swing, which I’ve only given in the D transcription…

Oh yeah, the cidre… :-)