Cronin’s Rambles hornpipe

Also known as Triallta Uí Cróinín, The Weird One.

There are 10 recordings of this tune.

Cronin’s Rambles appears in 2 other tune collections.

Cronin’s Rambles has been added to 1 tune set.

Cronin's Rambles has been added to 39 tunebooks.

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Seven settings

1
X: 1
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:D2|GFGA BGBd|cBce d2Bd|gdcB cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GFGA BGBd|cBce d2Bd|gdBd cAFA|G2GF G2:|
|:D2|GABd gdBd|edgd c2Bd|gdcB cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GABd gdBd|edgd c2Bd|gdBd cAFA|G2GF G2:|
2
X: 2
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:(3DEF|G>FG>A B>GA>B|c>Bc>e d2 (3def|g>dB>d c2 d>c|B>GA>F D>E (3FED|
G3 A (3BAG A>B|c3 e d>^c (3def|g>dB>d c>AF>A|G2 (3AGF G2:|
|:(3DEF|G>Bd>B g>dB>d|f>ec>e d2 (3def|g>dB>d c2 d>c|B>GA>F D>EF>D|
[1 G2 (3def g>dB>d|f>ec>e d2 (3def|g2 (3d^cd =c>A (3FGA|(3GAG F>A G2:|
[2 G>FG>A B>GA>B|c2 (3cde d2 (3def|g2 (3Bcd c>AD>F|A>GG>F G2||
3
X: 3
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:DF|GFGA BGAB|cBce d2 ef|gdBd c2 dc|BGAF DEFD|
G3 A B2 AB|c3 e d^cdf|gdBd cAFA|G2 G2 G2:|
|:EF|GBdB gdBd|fece d2 ef|gdBd c2 dc|BGAF DEFD|
[1 GBdf gdBd|fece d2 ef|g2 d2 cAFA|G2 FA G2:|
[2 GFGA BGAB|c2 ce d2 ef|g2 Bd cADF|AGGF G2||
4
X: 4
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:(3DEF|GFGA BGAB|cBce d2 (3def|gdBd cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GFGA BGAB|cBce d^c (3def|gdBd cAFA|G2 GF G2:|
|:(3DEF|GB (3def gdBd|fece d2 (3def|gdBd cedc|BGAF DEFD|
[1 GB (3def gdBd|fece d2 (3def|gdBd cAFA|G2 GF G2:|
[2 GFGA BGAB|cBce d2 (3def|gdBd cAFA|G2 GF G2||
5
X: 5
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:D>F|G2 G>A B>GA>B|c>Bc>e d2 (3def|g2 (3Bcd c>e (3edc|B>GA>F D>EF>D|
G>DG>A B2 (3GAB|c2 (3cde d>^c (3def|g>dB>d c>A (3FGA|G2 G2 G2:|
D2|G>Bd>B g>dB>G|f>ec>A E2 (3DEF|G>d (3Bcd c>Ad>c|B>G (3AGF D>EF>A|
G2 (3def g>dB>d|f>ec>e d2 (3def|g>dB>d c>AF>A|G2 G>F G2 (3def|
g>Bd>G g>d (3Bcd|(3fgf (3ecA E2- E>e|d>g (3Bcd c>AE>F|G2 (3AGF D4|
G2 (3FGA B>GA>G|c2- c>e d2- d>f|g>dG>d c>A (3DFA|G2 g2 G2||
6
X: 6
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Amaj
|:E2|AGAB cABc|dcdf ed (3efg|aecA dfed|cABG EFGE|
AGAB cABc|dcdf ed (3efg|aecA dBGB|A2 A2 A2:|
|:A2|Aceg aece|gefd efge|aecA dfed|cABG EFGE|
Aceg aecA|gfdf e2 (3efg|aecA dBGB|A2 A2 A2:|
7
X: 7
T: Cronin's Rambles
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:GABd gd (3Bcd|gece d2 (3Bcd|gdcB cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GABd gd (3Bcd|gece d2 (3Bcd|gdBd cAFA|G2GF ~G3z:|
D2|GFGA BGAB|cBce dc (3def|gdBG cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GFGA BGAB|cBce dc (3def|gdBG cAFA|G2 G2 G2:|
|:G2|GBdf gdBd|fdec defd|gdBG cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GBdf gdBG|fece d2 (3def|gdBG cAFA|G2 G2 G2:|
# Added by LH .

Thirteen comments

The Weird One (hornpipe)

A lovely hornpipe on Mike and Mary Rafferty’s "The Road from Ballinakill" CD. Unfortunately its original title has been forgotten. The new title comes from a guest musician Willie Kelly’s comment on the tune. Hope a more imaginative one will replace it some day.

Nice, pretty hornpipe.

Like the melody, the C in the turn really stands out; would force a chord change in the accompaniment. As for title, maybe "The Sounds of Home"? First time posting comment, sorry don’t have more to offer.

"Cronin’s Rambles" ~ sans > & (3

X: 2
T: Cronin’s Rambles
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Gmaj
|: DF |\
GFGA BGAB | cBce d2 ef | gdBd c2 dc | BGAF DEFD |
G3 A B2 AB | c3 e d^cdf | gdBd cAFA | G2 G2 G2 :|
|: EF |\
GBdB gdBd | fece d2 ef | gdBd c2 dc | BGAF DEFD |
[1 GBdf gdBd | fece d2 ef | g2 d2 cAFA | G2 FA G2 :|
[2 GFGA BGAB | c2 ce d2 ef | g2 Bd cADF | AGGF G2 |]

"Cronin’s Rambles" ~ the Comhaltas dots

http://comhaltas.ie/
http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/cronins_rambles/

http://comhaltas.ie/music/tag/Hornpipe/P60/lang/ga/
http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/cronins_hornpipe/

X: 3
T: Cronin’s Rambles
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Gmaj
|: (3DEF |\
GFGA BGAB | cBce d2 (3def | gdBd cedc | BGAF DEFD |
GFGA BGAB | cBce d^c (3def | gdBd cAFA | G2 GF G2 :|
|: (3DEF |\
GB (3def gdBd | fece d2 (3def | gdBd cedc | BGAF DEFD |
[1 GB (3def gdBd | fece d2 (3def | gdBd cAFA | G2 GF G2 :|
[2 GFGA BGAB | cBce d2 (3def | gdBd cAFA | G2 GF G2 |]

"Cronin’s Rambles" ~ other possibilities with the B-part ~

|: DF | GBdB gdBG | ~

|: D2 | GB (3def gdBd | fecA E2 (3DEF | Gd (3Bcd cAdc | BG (3AGF DEFA | ~

|: (3def | gBdG gd (3Bcd | (3fgf (3ecA E3 e | dg (3Bcd cAEF | G2 (3AGF D4 |

[1 G2 (3Bcd gdBd | ~

[2 G2 (3FGA BGAG | c3 e d3 f | gdGd cA (3DFA | G2 g2 G2 |]

I musn’t confuse you with too many choices, but it also bounces along just fine in A Major too, the key in which O’Neill gave it (to follow)… 😉

"Cronin’s Rambles" ~ a bit of the history

X: 4
T: Cronin’s rambles
S: "O’Neill’s Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies", 1903, page 301, tune #1622
S: "O’Neill’s Dance Music of Ireland: 1001 Gems",1907, page 148, tune #855
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Amaj
|: E2 |\
AGAB cABc | dcdf ed (3efg | aecA dfed | cABG EFGE |
AGAB cABc | dcdf ed (3efg | aecA dBGB | A2 A2 A2 :|
|: A2 |\
Aceg aece | gefd efge | aecA dfed | cABG EFGE |
Aceg aecA | gfdf e2 (3efg | aecA dBGB | A2 A2 A2 :|

The Fiddler’s Companion ~ Andrew Kuntz

http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/index.html
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/CRA_CRON.htm

CRONIN’S RAMBLES (Triallta Uí Cróinín). Irish, Hornpipe. A Major. Standard tuning. AABB. Source for notated version: Chicago fiddler Edward Cronin, originally from County Tipperary [O’Neill]. O’Brien (Jerry O’Brien’s Accordion Instructor), 1949. O’Neill (1915 ed.), 1987; No. 327, pg. 162. O’Neill (Krassen), 1976; pg. 179. O’Neill (Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies), 1903/1979; No. 1622, pg. 301. O’Neill (Dance Music of Ireland: 1001 Gems), 1907/1986; No. 855, pg. 148.

& guess what, for some reason they have a different take on the B-part ~

K: Amaj
P: B-part
|: cd |\
e2 ce Aece | f2 df Bfdf | e2 ce Aece | dcBA GABc |
e2 ce Aece | dcde fgaf | eagf edcB | AdcB A2 :|

The Weird One

I think this is Ed Cronin’s Rambles - in O’Neill’s 1850 #1622; O’Neill’s DMI 1001 #855 (in A)
- Lesl

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Cronin’s Rambles

Another transcription: https://thesession.org/tunes/8678

Thanks, Lesl. I think I recently heard Colm Gannon and Jesse Smith playing this hornpipe in A major on radio. They cited Emmet Gill as the source, who in turn learnt it from Willi Clancy.

Ed Cronin’s Rambles

"& guess what, for some reason they have a different take on the B-part ~"

Hi ceolachan, Seeing as I’m studying Ed Cronin’s Rambles at the moment, I looked this up and it appears what happened was that when Andy was transcribing from 1001, his glance must have shifted up to the top of the page.

In 1001 p.148 the top of the page is Coming From the Wedding. This alternate 2nd part e2 ce Aece … listed on the FC is the 2nd part of Coming From the Wedding, which is #854 in 1001 - first tune of page 148.

The tune directly below that on p.148 is Cronin’s Rambles, #855. A small price to pay for the gem of the Fiddler’s Companion I’d say.

I also looked up Ed Cronin (because our neighbour’s name is also Ed Cronin!) and found that Capt. O’Neill did a biographical sketch on him - and that fiddler Ed Cronin gave Capt. O’Neill a lot of tunes as well as helped with the field work for the tune books, transcribing from the players in Chicago.

Am heading over to Slainte’s thread link now to see what’s up with the "Weird One" hornpipe ;) lol. - Lesl

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Thanks slainte, I just listened (Colm Gannon and Jesse Smith)and it seems the same hornpipe doesn’t it. Did I hear them say they are calling it Willie Clancy’s?

One thing I noticed was that their ending recaps the first part of the tune, something which Mike mentioned to me is sometimes done with this one. But that he prefers to keep the 2nd part fully together including its ending.

He also came up with another version of the 2nd part which seems closer to the O’Neill’s setting than his recording. Like this:
|:GABd gd (3Bcd|gece d2 (3Bcd|gdcB cedc|BGAF DEFD|
GABd gd (3Bcd|gece d2 (3Bcd|gdBd cAFA|G2GF ~G3z:|

If you transpose O’Neill’s setting into G:
D2 | GFGA BGAB | cBce dc (3def | gdBG cedc | BGAF DEFD |
GFGA BGAB | cBce dc (3def | gdBG cAFA | G2 G2 G2 :|
|: G2 | GBdf gdBd | fdec defd | gdBG cedc | BGAF DEFD |
GBdf gdBG | fece d2 (3def | gdBG cAFA | G2 G2 G2 :||

then Mike’s gece d2 above is nearly the way O’Neill had the 2nd part of the 2nd part notated, which is fece d2.

I think Jesse Smith’s version omits that part of the setting but instead uses the fdec defd phrase (except he is playing it in A of course).

Am still comparing the versions. But I think Mike’s edgd c2Bd from the Road Fr Ballinakill recording is the only difference and it is the same tune. I have to learn it both ways to keep everyone happy ;)

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A nice addition, thanks… 🙂